Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 16:10     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Anonymous wrote:It is painfully obvious that none of you ever speak to Republicans. It was supposed to be Charlie Kirk.


No it wasn't. He was changing his views and turning against Israel and as such would never have survived in this political atmosphere.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 15:56     Subject: Re:Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The way forward is not clear to me, but do think Hegseth and Noem devote a lot of department money and time to accumulating B roll for their '28 ads. Vance tries to do the same though may not be as effective at doing so - photos of him with a pope who died shortly after only endears him with a small segment of Catholics. Carlson is out there keeping his name in the news and clearly is Fuentes-friendly, who has his own aspirations. Kirk widow and Ivanka both have people whispering in their ears that their novelty campaign could propel them to the WH.

DK if an heir emerges, but do think the space will be contested in a way that hasn't been since Trump was a few months into the '16 GOP prez primary.


It doesn't matter what transpires during the 2028 GOP primary. As long as Trump is the sitting POTUS in 2028, the GOP will have no chance at election success just as they didn't in 2020 and just as the Dems had no chance in 2024 with Biden as the sitting POTUS. This is basic political science 101. Unpopular presidents are death to their party.


Given that I'm a political scientist, I'm well aware of how this works; moreover, I'm not talking about who will win the '28 election, but who will be contesting the space to run as the MAGA candidate.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 15:54     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no MAGA without Trump. No one can get away with what he gets away with. MAGA is Trump. It will die when he does.


I agree. MAGA is Trump. It's a bizarre cult of personality. And I don't think any other Republican can tap into that.

But I do think Marjorie Taylor Greene is going to run for president. And if the GOP goes all in with JD Vance - a very lame man with the charisma of fruit fly - she'll get those voters.


MTG vters won't support Vance and vice versa. Hence the problem the GOP has in a general election.


The GOP will have a Trump problem in the 2028 election just as the Dems had a Biden problem in the 2024 election.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 15:45     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no MAGA without Trump. No one can get away with what he gets away with. MAGA is Trump. It will die when he does.


I agree. MAGA is Trump. It's a bizarre cult of personality. And I don't think any other Republican can tap into that.

But I do think Marjorie Taylor Greene is going to run for president. And if the GOP goes all in with JD Vance - a very lame man with the charisma of fruit fly - she'll get those voters.


MTG vters won't support Vance and vice versa. Hence the problem the GOP has in a general election.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 15:37     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Trump, Jr. Isn't smart enough to keep MAGA coalition together. Vance considers himself to be the Heir Apparent and is a nasty fighter and about ten million times smarter than Junior. They will destroy each other. Then Eric will step up!

Seriously, MAGA dies when trump dies and thankfully his health isn't anywhere near as perfect as trump and M.D. lie to us.

Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 15:27     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Erica Kirk


Misogyny will destroy her just like it did every other female politician left and right. She can lead a movement though and be "useful" that way. I believe she is more talented than her husband. And misogynic societies like the US revere widows - they almost transcend their gender.


I don't think misogyny is the reason why Erica Kirk is repellent. Sometimes one can be appalling without any sexism at all.


Interesting how EVERY woman who gets to that level politically is repellant - Hillary, Kamala, Sarah Palin.


Two women have been nominated by major parties in our history and only one of those two was nominated by the people. The number of women on the national political scene has grown exponentially from basically zero just in the past 40 years. A woman will be president soon. A woman would have been president in 2008 if not for the timing of a generational talent running for POTUS. It's a numbers game at this point. It will inevitably happen within the next 3 to 4 elections. Take a deep breath. We got this.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 15:21     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Erica Kirk


Misogyny will destroy her just like it did every other female politician left and right. She can lead a movement though and be "useful" that way. I believe she is more talented than her husband. And misogynic societies like the US revere widows - they almost transcend their gender.


I don't think misogyny is the reason why Erica Kirk is repellent. Sometimes one can be appalling without any sexism at all.


Interesting how EVERY woman who gets to that level politically is repellant - Hillary, Kamala, Sarah Palin.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 14:38     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Erica Kirk


Misogyny will destroy her just like it did every other female politician left and right. She can lead a movement though and be "useful" that way. I believe she is more talented than her husband. And misogynic societies like the US revere widows - they almost transcend their gender.


I don't think misogyny is the reason why Erica Kirk is repellent. Sometimes one can be appalling without any sexism at all.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 14:37     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Erica Kirk


Misogyny will destroy her just like it did every other female politician left and right. She can lead a movement though and be "useful" that way. I believe she is more talented than her husband. And misogynic societies like the US revere widows - they almost transcend their gender.


There are more women in America than men and the first woman ever nominated by a major political party in the US received more votes than her male opponent. You'd be so correct if it weren't for facts and common sense. There will be a female president within the next four elections. Based on the continually increasing numbers of women entering the political arena, it's inevitable.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 14:33     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Anonymous wrote:There is no MAGA without Trump. No one can get away with what he gets away with. MAGA is Trump. It will die when he does.


I agree. MAGA is Trump. It's a bizarre cult of personality. And I don't think any other Republican can tap into that.

But I do think Marjorie Taylor Greene is going to run for president. And if the GOP goes all in with JD Vance - a very lame man with the charisma of fruit fly - she'll get those voters.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 14:29     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Anonymous wrote:Erica Kirk


Misogyny will destroy her just like it did every other female politician left and right. She can lead a movement though and be "useful" that way. I believe she is more talented than her husband. And misogynic societies like the US revere widows - they almost transcend their gender.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 13:44     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
There is no MAGA without Trump. No one can get away with what he gets away with. MAGA is Trump. It will die when he does.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 13:40     Subject: Re:Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Anonymous wrote:The way forward is not clear to me, but do think Hegseth and Noem devote a lot of department money and time to accumulating B roll for their '28 ads. Vance tries to do the same though may not be as effective at doing so - photos of him with a pope who died shortly after only endears him with a small segment of Catholics. Carlson is out there keeping his name in the news and clearly is Fuentes-friendly, who has his own aspirations. Kirk widow and Ivanka both have people whispering in their ears that their novelty campaign could propel them to the WH.

DK if an heir emerges, but do think the space will be contested in a way that hasn't been since Trump was a few months into the '16 GOP prez primary.


It doesn't matter what transpires during the 2028 GOP primary. As long as Trump is the sitting POTUS in 2028, the GOP will have no chance at election success just as they didn't in 2020 and just as the Dems had no chance in 2024 with Biden as the sitting POTUS. This is basic political science 101. Unpopular presidents are death to their party.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 13:28     Subject: Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
Erica Kirk
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2025 13:24     Subject: Re:Who’s the heir apparent for MAGA movement ?
The way forward is not clear to me, but do think Hegseth and Noem devote a lot of department money and time to accumulating B roll for their '28 ads. Vance tries to do the same though may not be as effective at doing so - photos of him with a pope who died shortly after only endears him with a small segment of Catholics. Carlson is out there keeping his name in the news and clearly is Fuentes-friendly, who has his own aspirations. Kirk widow and Ivanka both have people whispering in their ears that their novelty campaign could propel them to the WH.

DK if an heir emerges, but do think the space will be contested in a way that hasn't been since Trump was a few months into the '16 GOP prez primary.