Still amazes me how much dcum thinks covid is some wild conspiracy.

Infants under 6 months are at highest risk of severe covid abs comparable to adults over 65.

I kept my kids isolated until fully vaccinated for it because the world is filled with jerks who think wearing a mask or staying home when sick is too hard.

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely I would require the Covid vaccine. If someone doesn’t want to do that, that’s fine, they can just wait until after my baby has had his own Covid shot.

It's shotS plural. You don't get just one or else you aren't fully vaccinated.

It's better to get more than you need than not enough, as only doing a partial vaccination is more risky than no vaccination at all, as it can cause the body to be more susceptible to the virus with only a partial vaccination.

Absolutely I would require the Covid vaccine. If someone doesn’t want to do that, that’s fine, they can just wait until after my baby has had his own Covid shot.

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Anonymous wrote:I would require the most recent Covid shot, unless they've been vaccinated in the past 6 months.

And I would require the rest, too.

This is really a no brainer, OP. People who don't understand science and medicine need to get with the program, or they just opt out of visits. That's fine too. You can see them later, no hard feelings!

The "science" says the vaccine provides a small amount of protection against serious illness and short-term (and likely small, after adjusting for behavioral differences) protection against infection.

And covid is a small risk to infants anyway.

That's why you must get a booster every 3 months, 4 boosters a year, to stay up to date on them.

Much more effective if you get your 4 boosters a year.

Then you'll still have a month between shots where you're overly exposed. That's why I keep mine on a constant IV drip.

That's hardcore! But at least you are well protected!

No, you can still get infected. And that can lead to long covid- including the particularly insidious asymptotic long covid. That's why I also use a Versaflo PAPR.

I haven't seen my kids in 5 years, but I'm sure they'll understand.

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Anonymous wrote:I would require the most recent Covid shot, unless they've been vaccinated in the past 6 months.

And I would require the rest, too.

This is really a no brainer, OP. People who don't understand science and medicine need to get with the program, or they just opt out of visits. That's fine too. You can see them later, no hard feelings!

The "science" says the vaccine provides a small amount of protection against serious illness and short-term (and likely small, after adjusting for behavioral differences) protection against infection.

And covid is a small risk to infants anyway.

That's why you must get a booster every 3 months, 4 boosters a year, to stay up to date on them.

Much more effective if you get your 4 boosters a year.

Then you'll still have a month between shots where you're overly exposed. That's why I keep mine on a constant IV drip.

That's hardcore! But at least you are well protected!

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Anonymous wrote:I would require the most recent Covid shot, unless they've been vaccinated in the past 6 months.

And I would require the rest, too.

This is really a no brainer, OP. People who don't understand science and medicine need to get with the program, or they just opt out of visits. That's fine too. You can see them later, no hard feelings!

The "science" says the vaccine provides a small amount of protection against serious illness and short-term (and likely small, after adjusting for behavioral differences) protection against infection.

And covid is a small risk to infants anyway.

That's why you must get a booster every 3 months, 4 boosters a year, to stay up to date on them.

Much more effective if you get your 4 boosters a year.

Then you'll still have a month between shots where you're overly exposed. That's why I keep mine on a constant IV drip.

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Anonymous wrote:I would require the most recent Covid shot, unless they've been vaccinated in the past 6 months.

And I would require the rest, too.

This is really a no brainer, OP. People who don't understand science and medicine need to get with the program, or they just opt out of visits. That's fine too. You can see them later, no hard feelings!

The "science" says the vaccine provides a small amount of protection against serious illness and short-term (and likely small, after adjusting for behavioral differences) protection against infection.

And covid is a small risk to infants anyway.

That's why you must get a booster every 3 months, 4 boosters a year, to stay up to date on them.

Much more effective if you get your 4 boosters a year.

I had a baby last year and went through all of your concerns, OP, and I have a couple of thoughts:
1. The best thing to do is vaccinate yourself while you are pregnant and then follow the vaccine schedule for baby. Then vaccinate yourself and your immediate family annually moving forward for all eligible vaccines. This puts you in the drivers seat and gives you the best possible outcome.
2. Unless you are planning on never leaving your house or having visitors over, your baby is going to be exposed to illnesses. See step #1.
3. Our children are unfortunately going to be members of a generation in which other children are unvaccinated. This is our reality. You are not going to want to ask every parent you encounter if their child is vaccinated. It’s sad but this is what it is. See step #1.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t you just post this but from the perspective of the MIL after your friends said it wasn’t needed?

This doesn't make sense

A thread was started a few weeks ago about a family member being asked to get Covid, Flu and Dtap vaccines before seeing newborn and the Op was refusing as her (older) friends said it wasn’t needed. The op was trying to shame the new mom. The DTAP mention in both threads is interesting.

Of all the shots, DTAP would be one I insist on as pertussis can be fatal in infants.

Anonymous wrote:We have asked anyone coming to visit and be around our baby during the frist two months to have a recent Flu shot, Dtap and an annual Covid shot. Some family members gave us a bit of a hard time with this. I just realized however that our baby won't have a Covid shot until he is 6 months old.

Is it necessary that I require the the recent covid shot? How could we even require this between 2-6 months. DH and I have to go back to work at 4 months.

Have them bring documented proof of at least 2 boosters in 2025 or else they don't get to attend. Simple as that.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you going to check the records? I would just lie to you if I wanted to visit and would not visit if I didn’t want to. You can say I am horrible but I am afraid these are common reactions to demands like that

Even as a vaccinated person, I'd take it as a clear and very strong indication that she doesn't want visitors.

When you have a winter baby all you need to do is say. " 'No visitors except grandparents until March. Grandparents please have flu and other necessary shots.". I cannot imagine a grandparent getting upset in about this.

I have to ever understood why people ( other than immediate family) want to see a baby in the first 3-4 months because they aren't cute and all they do is eat, sleep, poop and scream.

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Anonymous wrote:Require visitors to wear N95 or earloop D95masks. If they balk, that weeds out some. N95s are relatively cheap and not uncomfortable. D95s are equally effective ime. I wear those, DH wears the other and neither has had covid. https://shop.demetech.us/collections/all

"Not comfortable." LOL. We've been there, pp, and now we know better. Of course they're uncomfortable. They're hot and wet. They're tight on your head and ears. And they'll probably still fog up your glasses.

If they fog glasses indoors you have a bad git at the top. The ones I linked have metal to fit to nose and foam to make it comfortable. Hot and wet indoors in winter? You just panic probably due to claustrophobia. Well you do you.

You must not have glasses. There's a reason surgeons with glasses use tape.

And the temperature and moisture in masks comes from the air you breathe out, which has a pretty similar temperature and humidity level regardless of whether it is winter or summer.

Of course you know that, but I'm sure you never miss a chance to spread mask misinformation.

I wear glasses so does DH. I often wear one for 4 hours straight. Yes my nose is a bit damp but I go outside and blow it. I don't wear them outside, duh


But aren't we talking about visiting?

But go ahead with your dogma.

So it does get hot and soggy inside the mask. And while you might have some magical facial shape that prevents fogging, I'm sure you know that's a common problem.

In any event, covid is only a few years behind us. Most of remember how awful masks were. Do you really think people already forgot?

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Anonymous wrote:Require visitors to wear N95 or earloop D95masks. If they balk, that weeds out some. N95s are relatively cheap and not uncomfortable. D95s are equally effective ime. I wear those, DH wears the other and neither has had covid. https://shop.demetech.us/collections/all

"Not comfortable." LOL. We've been there, pp, and now we know better. Of course they're uncomfortable. They're hot and wet. They're tight on your head and ears. And they'll probably still fog up your glasses.

If they fog glasses indoors you have a bad git at the top. The ones I linked have metal to fit to nose and foam to make it comfortable. Hot and wet indoors in winter? You just panic probably due to claustrophobia. Well you do you.

You must not have glasses. There's a reason surgeons with glasses use tape.

And the temperature and moisture in masks comes from the air you breathe out, which has a pretty similar temperature and humidity level regardless of whether it is winter or summer.

Of course you know that, but I'm sure you never miss a chance to spread mask misinformation.

I wear glasses so does DH. I often wear one for 4 hours straight. Yes my nose is a bit damp but I go outside and blow it. I don't wear them outside, duh


But aren't we talking about visiting?

But go ahead with your dogma.

Anonymous wrote:I would require the most recent Covid shot, unless they've been vaccinated in the past 6 months.

And I would require the rest, too.

This is really a no brainer, OP. People who don't understand science and medicine need to get with the program, or they just opt out of visits. That's fine too. You can see them later, no hard feelings!

The "science" says the vaccine provides a small amount of protection against serious illness and short-term (and likely small, after adjusting for behavioral differences) protection against infection.

And covid is a small risk to infants anyway.

Require whatever you want. It's a grey area. What you mentioned. But you and DH get to be the ones to decide. Don't be so wishy-washy, letting others weigh-in and discuss -- that's just causing more drama.