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Thousands of researchers are doing endless studies & writing countless articles about crime & punishment. We need to start considering the concept that perhaps there ISN’T a nice clean cure for habitual criminality; no magic pill or curative therapy. Maybe the best we can do is isolate the criminals from the public. And at this point I don’t really care if that means we have a higher % of our citizens behind bars than f’ing Denmark has.

This person is insane. He needs to be committed to a mental health facility not a prison. There are in fact “magic pills” for treating mental illness. That someone has to have the ability to understand between right and wrong has been a bedrock of the criminal justice system for hundreds of years.

He needs to be committed to a facility for the criminally insane. The mentally ill who are a serious danger to other people need to be kept away from the mentally ill who simply lack the ability to care for themselves but are otherwise harmless. But in no world should this guy have been allowed to walk the streets. Just like the guy in Charlotte who stabbed the Ukrainian woman.

Anonymous wrote:Thousands of researchers are doing endless studies & writing countless articles about crime & punishment. We need to start considering the concept that perhaps there ISN’T a nice clean cure for habitual criminality; no magic pill or curative therapy. Maybe the best we can do is isolate the criminals from the public. And at this point I don’t really care if that means we have a higher % of our citizens behind bars than f’ing Denmark has.

This person is insane. He needs to be committed to a mental health facility not a prison. There are in fact “magic pills” for treating mental illness. That someone has to have the ability to understand between right and wrong has been a bedrock of the criminal justice system for hundreds of years.

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Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.

There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.

Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.

THIS. All of it.

Throwing people in jail seems to have done a great job of preventing crime. /s

We have the highest number of incarcerated people in the world and yet still plenty of crime. Throwing people in jail is not working. Maybe fix the actual problems instead of throwing people away.

The prosecutors from this guy’s last case begged the judge to hold him in jail. She refused and let him out. If he had been in jail, that young woman would have gotten home from work that day. Instead, she’s in the ICU fighting for her life and has burns over 60% of her body. That is not okay.

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I don't know how judges who make decisions like that one sleep at night.

I read somewhere that 80% of the crimes are committed by 20% of the people , seems like we should put that 20% away

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Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.

There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.

Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.

THIS. All of it.

Throwing people in jail seems to have done a great job of preventing crime. /s

We have the highest number of incarcerated people in the world and yet still plenty of crime. Throwing people in jail is not working. Maybe fix the actual problems instead of throwing people away.

If someone is in prison, they are not a threat to the public. The number of people in prison is irrelevant. We have more prisoners because we have more criminals. We are past the point where people give a crap if somebody is mentally ill or had a rough childhood. If we have to double the number of people in prisons to make things safe for people simply traveling to work, so be it.

Do you honestly believe Americans are more criminal than everywhere else is the developed world, or do we just maybe have the most poverty? And maybe turning prisons into a vehicle for profit making inevitably leads to more people being thrown in prison?

No, I believe, and the stats back this, that it’s the usual suspects committing these crimes and other developed nations don’t have the same demographics as the U.S.

Poverty isn’t causing people to be violent, culture is.

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Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.

There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.

Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.

THIS. All of it.

Throwing people in jail seems to have done a great job of preventing crime. /s

We have the highest number of incarcerated people in the world and yet still plenty of crime. Throwing people in jail is not working. Maybe fix the actual problems instead of throwing people away.

If someone is in prison, they are not a threat to the public. The number of people in prison is irrelevant. We have more prisoners because we have more criminals. We are past the point where people give a crap if somebody is mentally ill or had a rough childhood. If we have to double the number of people in prisons to make things safe for people simply traveling to work, so be it.

Do you honestly believe Americans are more criminal than everywhere else is the developed world, or do we just maybe have the most poverty? And maybe turning prisons into a vehicle for profit making inevitably leads to more people being thrown in prison?

Thousands of researchers are doing endless studies & writing countless articles about crime & punishment. We need to start considering the concept that perhaps there ISN’T a nice clean cure for habitual criminality; no magic pill or curative therapy. Maybe the best we can do is isolate the criminals from the public. And at this point I don’t really care if that means we have a higher % of our citizens behind bars than f’ing Denmark has.

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Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.

There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.

Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.

THIS. All of it.

Throwing people in jail seems to have done a great job of preventing crime. /s

We have the highest number of incarcerated people in the world and yet still plenty of crime. Throwing people in jail is not working. Maybe fix the actual problems instead of throwing people away.

If someone is in prison, they are not a threat to the public. The number of people in prison is irrelevant. We have more prisoners because we have more criminals. We are past the point where people give a crap if somebody is mentally ill or had a rough childhood. If we have to double the number of people in prisons to make things safe for people simply traveling to work, so be it.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh look. Trump has a bad day and suddenly we get to hear another distracting story about a sCaAAary criminal.

A woman is set on fire and you make this about Trump. Seriously.

+1 That poster lacks empathy for others' pain and suffering.

Lawrence Reed “allegedly slapping a social worker so hard that she was knocked out during an Aug. 19 assault inside the psychiatric ward of the MacNeal Hospital“ . . .

. . . and then was released into the community.

He knocked someone out, IN THE PSYCH WARD, and then was left to his own devices.

I challenge you to find anyone on any side of the political spectrum who would argue that was a good idea. But somehow it happened.

Probably the most memorable thing I’ve done all year was ride the Blue Line out to O’Hare at 5am. The 300lb transsexual seated beside me alternated alternated between extremely entertaining and extremely terrifying. I breathed a very deep sigh of relief when I got off that train. Next time I will take a Uber.

I’ve heard a lot of explanations as to why it’s not possible to involuntarily commit mentally ill folk to treatment centers (or whatever other euphemism you want to use). Some of those explanations reference Supreme Court decisions, others Reagan’s gutting of the Mental Health Systems Act.

We can argue about that all day, but what all of us should trying hard to understand is why it’s so damn hard to put together a political consensus to do that which everyone seems to be in agreement about.

There are several separate questions and issues here.

1. Violent individuals: We need safe streets, we should be able to go about our business, ride trains without being attacked, walk at night without being mugged, not have our kids shot when they go to school. Violent people need to be removed from society, period. That's not about punishment, that's not about rehabilitation, that's about doing right by society.

2. How should they be punished? I don't have the answer to that. Is removing them from society enough of a punishment in and of itself? I do believe they should have to make restitution to their victims or the surviving family members. And if that's through prison labor I think that's fair.

3. Can they be rehabilitated? Should they get a second chance? That's yet another totally separate question. I believe in some cases, yes. In others, no. But that takes evaluation.

Let's not commingle and conflate all of these and start with the first one, even if we don't have the answers for the other two.

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Anonymous wrote:And this is why Democrats lose

I don't get why Democrats are so enthusiastically supportive of violent men?

Like, I really don't understand it.

It's clearly a disaster politically. The average murder suspect in DC has 11 felonies. All those victims would be alive today if Democrats simply put violent men in prison. But, no.

Where is the win for Democrats here?

I'm guessing it's pure racism. Black people love having violent men in their communities - and Democrats will accommodate that everywhere from their homes in Palisades and Chevy Chase.

Idiots.

1. Why are there so many violent men?

2. Why hasn't throwing people in jail made it so there are less violent men?

3. Do you want to prevent crime or do you want to punish it after it happens, because jail has not actually been shown to be a deterrent.

4. What would it take for you to admit that maybe we need to try something new?

Why do you not care about the victims of crimes? Because you live in a wealthy suburb and don’t have to deal with it?

You didn't answer my questions. I live in Baltimore city. And I do care about victims. I think we do a disservice to victims by not solving the actual problem.

A small number of people are responsible for an outsized number of crimes. Locking those people up would improve the quality of life for whole cities.

Anonymous wrote: But the Mayor says they got the crime issue under control?

You have this and the 30 people shot during the tree lighting in the loop area. That is supposed to be the safest part of Chicago?


Maybe he should accept the federal help after all. It does not seem like he should be refusing anything at this point.

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Nothing to see here, it's all good!

Anonymous wrote:If you commit a violent crime against any one you deserve a bullet in the head. Problem solved.

You sound pretty violent yourself. Should we put a bullet in you?

Anonymous wrote:If you commit a violent crime against any one you deserve a bullet in the head. Problem solved.