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Anonymous wrote:I am genuinely curious how UVA maintains this elitist reputation when predominant in-state kids are only paying about $25k tuition? UMD does not even begin to have the same cache as the best in-state option. Great academics, of course, but never elitist.

Elitist? I don't buy that at all. I am not sure it is "elite" either but certainly you could make the argument.

Quite simply: it is much more selective than UMD. It has a much higher middle 50% SAT range than UT Austin. It has a higher percentage of students finishing in four years than Berkeley or Michigan. UVA is strong in every category.

At the risk of being attacked (and I did not go to UVA) - I am a 6th generation Virginian (not from Nova originally.) The reason I think UVA is like this is that many Virginians are very protective of Virginia, would never leave permanently, plan to raise their families here, and in general just think Virginia (the state) is the bees knees. It’s kind of the way people talk about pride in Texas, just a little quieter.

So, with that background in mind, if you are a bright high achieving high schooler who views Virginia (the state) as your end goal, being near family, and in general just creating the same life you were raised in, there is no reason to leave the state for college. And in sort of a provincial (for lack of a better word) way, many lifelong Virginias do view UVA as the be-all-end-all. Yes I know tons on this site think it’s overrated. I’m honestly not sure you could understand what I’m saying if you aren’t a multi generation Virginia, especially with ties outside of Nova.

Hope that helps.

Anonymous wrote:I am genuinely curious how UVA maintains this elitist reputation when predominant in-state kids are only paying about $25k tuition? UMD does not even begin to have the same cache as the best in-state option. Great academics, of course, but never elitist.

Elitist? I don't buy that at all. I am not sure it is "elite" either but certainly you could make the argument.

Quite simply: it is much more selective than UMD. It has a much higher middle 50% SAT range than UT Austin. It has a higher percentage of students finishing in four years than Berkeley or Michigan. UVA is strong in every category.

I am genuinely curious how UVA maintains this elitist reputation when predominant in-state kids are only paying about $25k tuition? UMD does not even begin to have the same cache as the best in-state option. Great academics, of course, but never elitist.

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Anonymous wrote:It was built by enslaved people. Really prestigious.

Maybe you should educate yourself before posting next time. Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, Yale, and almost all southern universities were built upon the slave industry. https://www.apmreports.org/episode/2017/09/04/shackled-legacy#:~:text=Profits%20from%20slavery%20and%20related,and%20served%20faculty%20and%20students.

I am educated. I wasn't talking about other universities.

No, you're not. You thought it was only UVA. Here are 14 universities built on the backs of slaves. And many many other smaller ones not mentioned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_at_American_colleges_and_universities#Barnard_College

No, I did not think it was only UVa. But the post was about that particular school. Reading comprehension helps.

Ugly brick buildings look like a prison
There is a distinct upper untouchable tier of legacy kids who know it
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Anonymous wrote:DS is a first year and wears only athletic shorts and sweatpants. He owns one pair of khakis. Is loving UVA and fitting in very well with a diverse group of kids from his dorm and classes. Joined a couple of clubs and is very happy while still being himself.

He did wear a polo to the football game when we came down to visit. Should I be worried that he's snobby now?

I do think the "snob" reputation had some merit decades ago (when it was not nearly as difficult to be accepted, interestingly). The UVA of today is an excellent school academically that offers so many opportunities for involvement. DD is there and loving her experience, with a huge, diverse group of friends.

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Anonymous wrote:It was built by enslaved people. Really prestigious.

Maybe you should educate yourself before posting next time. Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, Yale, and almost all southern universities were built upon the slave industry. https://www.apmreports.org/episode/2017/09/04/shackled-legacy#:~:text=Profits%20from%20slavery%20and%20related,and%20served%20faculty%20and%20students.

I am educated. I wasn't talking about other universities.

No, you're not. You thought it was only UVA. Here are 14 universities built on the backs of slaves. And many many other smaller ones not mentioned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_at_American_colleges_and_universities#Barnard_College

NP. Where did PP say they thought it was only UVA? This thread is about UVA.

UVA sits alone on a throne of uncompromised excellence in Virginia.

Anonymous wrote:Most of the people commenting on every single UVA thread have no actual experience with UVA. So do with that what you will.

This a million times over!!!

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Anonymous wrote:It was built by enslaved people. Really prestigious.

Maybe you should educate yourself before posting next time. Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, Yale, and almost all southern universities were built upon the slave industry. https://www.apmreports.org/episode/2017/09/04/shackled-legacy#:~:text=Profits%20from%20slavery%20and%20related,and%20served%20faculty%20and%20students.

I am educated. I wasn't talking about other universities.

No, you're not. You thought it was only UVA. Here are 14 universities built on the backs of slaves. And many many other smaller ones not mentioned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_at_American_colleges_and_universities#Barnard_College

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Anonymous wrote:It was built by enslaved people. Really prestigious.

Maybe you should educate yourself before posting next time. Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, Yale, and almost all southern universities were built upon the slave industry. https://www.apmreports.org/episode/2017/09/04/shackled-legacy#:~:text=Profits%20from%20slavery%20and%20related,and%20served%20faculty%20and%20students.

I am educated. I wasn't talking about other universities.

Even Stanford has slave ties.

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Anonymous wrote:It was built by enslaved people. Really prestigious.

Maybe you should educate yourself before posting next time. Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, Yale, and almost all southern universities were built upon the slave industry. https://www.apmreports.org/episode/2017/09/04/shackled-legacy#:~:text=Profits%20from%20slavery%20and%20related,and%20served%20faculty%20and%20students.

I am educated. I wasn't talking about other universities.

Honestly, you don’t sound well educated. Let me guess, your kid will NEVER go to school in a red state. LOL

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Anonymous wrote:It was built by enslaved people. Really prestigious.

Sounds like someone, or their spawn, wasn't admitted.

Perhaps it sounds that way to you, but it ain't so. I was admitted, but went elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:It was built by enslaved people. Really prestigious.

Maybe you should educate yourself before posting next time. Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, Yale, and almost all southern universities were built upon the slave industry. https://www.apmreports.org/episode/2017/09/04/shackled-legacy#:~:text=Profits%20from%20slavery%20and%20related,and%20served%20faculty%20and%20students.

I am educated. I wasn't talking about other universities.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a third year there and that’s about right. The other day he remarked how students wear quarter zips to class as their regular daily wear. I agree that there is a level of elitism and he’s not white, so kind of on the outside looking in and trying to fit in?

What does a quarter zip have to do with anything? Because the kids don’t wear pajamas to class? I guess it is a social class thing. My high schooler wears quarter zips to school from October until May and has since 9th grade. So do all his friends. They have a dress code at their private school, so for them these clothes are a habit.

I was just discussing this very point with my food taster and my ball sack valet.

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