Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Private schools kid definitely didn’t need top rigor but needed some rigor (kids getting into schools with honors calc as opposed to multivariable if Econ major, for example).
It also depends on what kid will study.
Top rigor and okay grades didn’t seem to do as well. Little rigor was also limiting.
You live in a little bubble if you think that taking multivariable is normal. I live in NYC. The vast majority of kids I know who get into Ivies coming out of top SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, HSMSE) and privates are taking calc senior year. Most privates don't even have APs.
This phenomenon, which seems to be particularly prevalent in the DC area, of tutoring your kid to get ahead or just pushing them ahead, is odd. And don't tell me "my kid is a genius and was bored." Nope. Just doing it because Mary down the street was doing it with her kid so you feel obligated to. Schools should put the kibosh on this except for the one in a million kids. And those kids you know when you see them.
In the long run, being a semester or two ahead really makes no difference.
Vent over.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just saw the post about dropping in rigor. In our school, a lot of kids are tutored to stay in the rigorous course. Couple years ago, a kid was asked to drop down a level but the family threatened to sue the school to keep him in the class (the parents told us!).
Is the motive for parents to keep their DCs challenged? Or are they concerned about falling out of running for the most selective colleges?
Is it better for get A in the less rigorous class or B in the more rigorous track when it comes to college admissions?
The first layer of competition is between your student and peers at their school. Unlikely that any school will admit all applicants from any school. Your kid needs to have a higher GPA taking the most rigorous courses offered.
A kid that has a non-weighted 4.0 with Algebra II and Environmental Science as their math and science courses will not be accepted over a kid with a 3.85 who has multi variable Calc and Physics C. But the 3.85 kid will loose out to one that has a 4.0 who has also taken multi variable Calc and Physics C.
But we are not talking about Algebra II when someone is applying to ivy.
3.85 multi variable Calc and Physics C would lose out to 4.0, Calc AB or precal (environmental science).
If a kid wants ivy and wants rigor, they need to get 4.0 in multi variable Calc and Physics C.
it is not that hard really. There are more kids like that than there are spots in all the ivies
Correct. DC’s friends at an ivy, all took either multi variable or linear algebra or both, and aced them in high school. Super common at ivies, feels like everyone
ding ding ding, same with my kid at her ivy. They all had that, among unhooked at least. There are some hooked ones that don't but they are not chem or physics or engineering.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just saw the post about dropping in rigor. In our school, a lot of kids are tutored to stay in the rigorous course. Couple years ago, a kid was asked to drop down a level but the family threatened to sue the school to keep him in the class (the parents told us!).
Is the motive for parents to keep their DCs challenged? Or are they concerned about falling out of running for the most selective colleges?
Is it better for get A in the less rigorous class or B in the more rigorous track when it comes to college admissions?
The first layer of competition is between your student and peers at their school. Unlikely that any school will admit all applicants from any school. Your kid needs to have a higher GPA taking the most rigorous courses offered.
A kid that has a non-weighted 4.0 with Algebra II and Environmental Science as their math and science courses will not be accepted over a kid with a 3.85 who has multi variable Calc and Physics C. But the 3.85 kid will loose out to one that has a 4.0 who has also taken multi variable Calc and Physics C.
But we are not talking about Algebra II when someone is applying to ivy.
3.85 multi variable Calc and Physics C would lose out to 4.0, Calc AB or precal (environmental science).
If a kid wants ivy and wants rigor, they need to get 4.0 in multi variable Calc and Physics C.
it is not that hard really. There are more kids like that than there are spots in all the ivies
Correct. DC’s friends at an ivy, all took either multi variable or linear algebra or both, and aced them in high school. Super common at ivies, feels like everyone
Anonymous wrote:At DD’s private (in DMV area), it seems standard for kids to drop down in rigor if they don’t get As. That’s how a few have managed their GPAs to be in the top ten percent of the class (e.g., go from Calc BC to Calc AB).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just saw the post about dropping in rigor. In our school, a lot of kids are tutored to stay in the rigorous course. Couple years ago, a kid was asked to drop down a level but the family threatened to sue the school to keep him in the class (the parents told us!).
Is the motive for parents to keep their DCs challenged? Or are they concerned about falling out of running for the most selective colleges?
Is it better for get A in the less rigorous class or B in the more rigorous track when it comes to college admissions?
The first layer of competition is between your student and peers at their school. Unlikely that any school will admit all applicants from any school. Your kid needs to have a higher GPA taking the most rigorous courses offered.
A kid that has a non-weighted 4.0 with Algebra II and Environmental Science as their math and science courses will not be accepted over a kid with a 3.85 who has multi variable Calc and Physics C. But the 3.85 kid will loose out to one that has a 4.0 who has also taken multi variable Calc and Physics C.
But we are not talking about Algebra II when someone is applying to ivy.
3.85 multi variable Calc and Physics C would lose out to 4.0, Calc AB or precal (environmental science).
If a kid wants ivy and wants rigor, they need to get 4.0 in multi variable Calc and Physics C.
it is not that hard really. There are more kids like that than there are spots in all the ivies
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just saw the post about dropping in rigor. In our school, a lot of kids are tutored to stay in the rigorous course. Couple years ago, a kid was asked to drop down a level but the family threatened to sue the school to keep him in the class (the parents told us!).
Is the motive for parents to keep their DCs challenged? Or are they concerned about falling out of running for the most selective colleges?
Is it better for get A in the less rigorous class or B in the more rigorous track when it comes to college admissions?
The first layer of competition is between your student and peers at their school. Unlikely that any school will admit all applicants from any school. Your kid needs to have a higher GPA taking the most rigorous courses offered.
A kid that has a non-weighted 4.0 with Algebra II and Environmental Science as their math and science courses will not be accepted over a kid with a 3.85 who has multi variable Calc and Physics C. But the 3.85 kid will loose out to one that has a 4.0 who has also taken multi variable Calc and Physics C.
But we are not talking about Algebra II when someone is applying to ivy.
3.85 multi variable Calc and Physics C would lose out to 4.0, Calc AB or precal (environmental science).
If a kid wants ivy and wants rigor, they need to get 4.0 in multi variable Calc and Physics C.
+++++Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just saw the post about dropping in rigor. In our school, a lot of kids are tutored to stay in the rigorous course. Couple years ago, a kid was asked to drop down a level but the family threatened to sue the school to keep him in the class (the parents told us!).
Is the motive for parents to keep their DCs challenged? Or are they concerned about falling out of running for the most selective colleges?
Is it better for get A in the less rigorous class or B in the more rigorous track when it comes to college admissions?
The first layer of competition is between your student and peers at their school. Unlikely that any school will admit all applicants from any school. Your kid needs to have a higher GPA taking the most rigorous courses offered.
A kid that has a non-weighted 4.0 with Algebra II and Environmental Science as their math and science courses will not be accepted over a kid with a 3.85 who has multi variable Calc and Physics C. But the 3.85 kid will loose out to one that has a 4.0 who has also taken multi variable Calc and Physics C.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just saw the post about dropping in rigor. In our school, a lot of kids are tutored to stay in the rigorous course. Couple years ago, a kid was asked to drop down a level but the family threatened to sue the school to keep him in the class (the parents told us!).
Is the motive for parents to keep their DCs challenged? Or are they concerned about falling out of running for the most selective colleges?
Is it better for get A in the less rigorous class or B in the more rigorous track when it comes to college admissions?
The first layer of competition is between your student and peers at their school. Unlikely that any school will admit all applicants from any school. Your kid needs to have a higher GPA taking the most rigorous courses offered.
A kid that has a non-weighted 4.0 with Algebra II and Environmental Science as their math and science courses will not be accepted over a kid with a 3.85 who has multi variable Calc and Physics C. But the 3.85 kid will loose out to one that has a 4.0 who has also taken multi variable Calc and Physics C.
But we are not talking about Algebra II when someone is applying to ivy.
3.85 multi variable Calc and Physics C would lose out to 4.0, Calc AB or precal (environmental science).
If a kid wants ivy and wants rigor, they need to get 4.0 in multi variable Calc and Physics C.
Anonymous wrote:Just saw the post about dropping in rigor. In our school, a lot of kids are tutored to stay in the rigorous course. Couple years ago, a kid was asked to drop down a level but the family threatened to sue the school to keep him in the class (the parents told us!).
Is the motive for parents to keep their DCs challenged? Or are they concerned about falling out of running for the most selective colleges?
Is it better for get A in the less rigorous class or B in the more rigorous track when it comes to college admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just saw the post about dropping in rigor. In our school, a lot of kids are tutored to stay in the rigorous course. Couple years ago, a kid was asked to drop down a level but the family threatened to sue the school to keep him in the class (the parents told us!).
Is the motive for parents to keep their DCs challenged? Or are they concerned about falling out of running for the most selective colleges?
Is it better for get A in the less rigorous class or B in the more rigorous track when it comes to college admissions?
The first layer of competition is between your student and peers at their school. Unlikely that any school will admit all applicants from any school. Your kid needs to have a higher GPA taking the most rigorous courses offered.
A kid that has a non-weighted 4.0 with Algebra II and Environmental Science as their math and science courses will not be accepted over a kid with a 3.85 who has multi variable Calc and Physics C. But the 3.85 kid will loose out to one that has a 4.0 who has also taken multi variable Calc and Physics C.
Anonymous wrote:Just saw the post about dropping in rigor. In our school, a lot of kids are tutored to stay in the rigorous course. Couple years ago, a kid was asked to drop down a level but the family threatened to sue the school to keep him in the class (the parents told us!).
Is the motive for parents to keep their DCs challenged? Or are they concerned about falling out of running for the most selective colleges?
Is it better for get A in the less rigorous class or B in the more rigorous track when it comes to college admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just saw the post about dropping in rigor. In our school, a lot of kids are tutored to stay in the rigorous course. Couple years ago, a kid was asked to drop down a level but the family threatened to sue the school to keep him in the class (the parents told us!).
Is the motive for parents to keep their DCs challenged? Or are they concerned about falling out of running for the most selective colleges?
Is it better for get A in the less rigorous class or B in the more rigorous track when it comes to college admissions?
If you're struggling as a student in the top rigor classes, what makes you think a rigorous t20 college would be a good fit? In spite of what you read on here about the hardest part about a top college is getting admitted, that is not the case. It is a very rigorous academic environment.
It's OPTIONALLY a very rigorous academic environoment.
Anonymous wrote:Average gpa at private is 3.3, we’ve had students with 3.6 off to ivies. DS’s school doesn’t hand out participation trophies and only 4 kids have left with a 4.0 in the schools 100+ yrs. High academic standards and the top schools love it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just saw the post about dropping in rigor. In our school, a lot of kids are tutored to stay in the rigorous course. Couple years ago, a kid was asked to drop down a level but the family threatened to sue the school to keep him in the class (the parents told us!).
Is the motive for parents to keep their DCs challenged? Or are they concerned about falling out of running for the most selective colleges?
Is it better for get A in the less rigorous class or B in the more rigorous track when it comes to college admissions?
If you're struggling as a student in the top rigor classes, what makes you think a rigorous t20 college would be a good fit? In spite of what you read on here about the hardest part about a top college is getting admitted, that is not the case. It is a very rigorous academic environment.