Anonymous wrote:After 70 people should've option to end their lives in humane ways, instead of suffering and having the painful knowledge of being seen as a burden.

Jesus. Maybe you could not see them as a burden.
Also, you don’t know many 70 +year olds.

If you age in this culture, you will not be loved, respected at all, or taken care of fully. You become only a burden and a nuisance. This entire post is an example. Elders aren't like or not like toddlers. They are full human adults whose physical capabilities slowly diminish, and in some cases, their cognitive ability diminshes. Their parents are long gone, siblings, too, or they have their own issues, much like their friends,and the hope that the children they had and loved throughout their lives will see them in the same light just doesn't really happen. It's a lonely time of life.

After 70 people should've option to end their lives in humane ways, instead of suffering and having the painful knowledge of being seen as a burden.

Anonymous wrote:Babies have a certain charm about them that makes us want to take care of them. Old people don’t have that charm. They’re not “adorable”, and are therefore, no fun to be around.

True but you take care of your parents because you love them and they took care of you not because they are cute and fun.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

That’s insane. I know lots of 75 year olds that are in great shape and enjoying life. Why don’t you wait until you really start to fail? Societal hatred of the elderly is presumably driving a lot of these comments.

Most people I know who are 75+ are sure enjoying life but they are already starting to feel the gravity so to speak and becoming a burden on their kids in one way or another. My sample is probably skewed but I have no guarantee I won’t be like them. They are delusional considering themselves independent but their kids don’t have much but obligation towards them or some use them for benefits.
And no I don’t think society hates the elderly. I think it glorifies the old age and puts longevity above all else, at the expense of younger generations who need room to breathe.

Remember COVID?

That was exactly my point, they favored the elderly above all else.

Who is “they?”

And in actuality, millions of parents screamed for two years that their kids being in physical buildings was more important than the lives of “people who were going to die soon anyway.” Don’t even deny it. Take a stroll down memory lane by searching posts in the schools forums on DCUM in 2020.

Sad, but true. We all have to die at some point. Death is just a natural and normal part of life.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

That’s insane. I know lots of 75 year olds that are in great shape and enjoying life. Why don’t you wait until you really start to fail? Societal hatred of the elderly is presumably driving a lot of these comments.

Most people I know who are 75+ are sure enjoying life but they are already starting to feel the gravity so to speak and becoming a burden on their kids in one way or another. My sample is probably skewed but I have no guarantee I won’t be like them. They are delusional considering themselves independent but their kids don’t have much but obligation towards them or some use them for benefits.
And no I don’t think society hates the elderly. I think it glorifies the old age and puts longevity above all else, at the expense of younger generations who need room to breathe.

Remember COVID?

That was exactly my point, they favored the elderly above all else.

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Even though they had already lived full lives.

Ah, Exhibit A. Thank you for scuttling right over to prove my point.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

That’s insane. I know lots of 75 year olds that are in great shape and enjoying life. Why don’t you wait until you really start to fail? Societal hatred of the elderly is presumably driving a lot of these comments.

Most people I know who are 75+ are sure enjoying life but they are already starting to feel the gravity so to speak and becoming a burden on their kids in one way or another. My sample is probably skewed but I have no guarantee I won’t be like them. They are delusional considering themselves independent but their kids don’t have much but obligation towards them or some use them for benefits.
And no I don’t think society hates the elderly. I think it glorifies the old age and puts longevity above all else, at the expense of younger generations who need room to breathe.

Remember COVID?

That was exactly my point, they favored the elderly above all else.

Who is “they?”

And in actuality, millions of parents screamed for two years that their kids being in physical buildings was more important than the lives of “people who were going to die soon anyway.” Don’t even deny it. Take a stroll down memory lane by searching posts in the schools forums on DCUM in 2020.

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Anonymous wrote:Caring for the elderly is a responsibility like caring for babies, though it’s harder in many ways that have been discussed. Helplessness and dependency are part of the human experience. It’s normal to feel resentment sometimes, but unrealistic to expect it to disappear.

Expect what to disappear?
At least don’t prolong the dependency by trying hard to live to 100

Whether you die of cancer in your 30s or Alzheimer’s in your 90s, you will be physically dependent on others for the weeks or months or years leading up to the end. It’s a fact of life. It’s immature and sad to be in denial of that fact, whether because you fear it for yourself or resent it in others.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

That’s insane. I know lots of 75 year olds that are in great shape and enjoying life. Why don’t you wait until you really start to fail? Societal hatred of the elderly is presumably driving a lot of these comments.

Most people I know who are 75+ are sure enjoying life but they are already starting to feel the gravity so to speak and becoming a burden on their kids in one way or another. My sample is probably skewed but I have no guarantee I won’t be like them. They are delusional considering themselves independent but their kids don’t have much but obligation towards them or some use them for benefits.
And no I don’t think society hates the elderly. I think it glorifies the old age and puts longevity above all else, at the expense of younger generations who need room to breathe.

Remember COVID?

That was exactly my point, they favored the elderly above all else.

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Even though they had already lived full lives.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

That’s insane. I know lots of 75 year olds that are in great shape and enjoying life. Why don’t you wait until you really start to fail? Societal hatred of the elderly is presumably driving a lot of these comments.

Most people I know who are 75+ are sure enjoying life but they are already starting to feel the gravity so to speak and becoming a burden on their kids in one way or another. My sample is probably skewed but I have no guarantee I won’t be like them. They are delusional considering themselves independent but their kids don’t have much but obligation towards them or some use them for benefits.
And no I don’t think society hates the elderly. I think it glorifies the old age and puts longevity above all else, at the expense of younger generations who need room to breathe.

Some people enjoy caring for their parents. Just like having babies -- some people put them in daycare full time but some actually enjoy taking care of them. Takes all kinds to make the world go round.

Those who don’t enjoy it shouldn’t have to do it.

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Anonymous wrote:Caring for the elderly is a responsibility like caring for babies, though it’s harder in many ways that have been discussed. Helplessness and dependency are part of the human experience. It’s normal to feel resentment sometimes, but unrealistic to expect it to disappear.

Expect what to disappear?
At least don’t prolong the dependency by trying hard to live to 100

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Anonymous wrote:I think all these mean, ageist threads are trolls.

Do you think the mean, failure-to-launch kid bashing threads are trolls?

Anonymous wrote:I mean the only way you can take care of the elderly is if you quit your job. They go to dozens of doctor appts and often can't be left alone. If there were daycare centers they could go to, that would be totally different and more manageable.

There is a daycare center where I live and Medicaid covers it, but many elderly just won’t go because “they aren’t like those old people at the center”.
As for Dr appointments I only take my parent to the important ones, no “come back in 3 months just in case”.

Anonymous wrote:Caring for the elderly is a responsibility like caring for babies, though it’s harder in many ways that have been discussed. Helplessness and dependency are part of the human experience. It’s normal to feel resentment sometimes, but unrealistic to expect it to disappear.

Expect what to disappear?
At least don’t prolong the dependency by trying hard to live to 100

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Anonymous wrote:As an older person this thread is horrifying. Guess what - we’re all dying, and everyone’s best years are behind them. So what? Older people still have perspectives and wisdom to offer, if only people didn’t write us off immediately.

Isn't it great to know the generation of mostly women we have raised?

These women (us) are watching you and making own conclusions