Anonymous wrote:No. 20-22% is still standard. They can ask for whatever they want. You can do your own math and leave what you want.

Nope 18% is standard.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree and now also they add a tax onto the drink order at the bar and present you the electronic payment with 20% tip butting for one drink smh. They don't even take cash! I prefer when a $10 drink is $10 flat and then you. Can leave 1 or 2 singles depending on the service.

When a restaurant/coffee shop/bar refuses to take cash, I don’t go there.

I have never found a place that wouldn't take cash, but I agree with you. They wouldn't get paid for what I ordered, or my future business if they said that.

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Anonymous wrote:If I am suggest to tip, I don't tip at all.

If I am required to tip, I don't pay at all.

If I am asked if I need change when paying cash, I don't tip at all and tell them why.

Never assume you are going to get a tip.

I think you can assume that if you go back to a place a second time after not tipping, you are going to get jizz in your food.

Some people pay extra for that.

Anonymous wrote:Today I had a casual lunch in Boulder CO- two of us. A 20% gratuity was added to our bill on the total with taxes. Menu states “20% included for all parties of one or more”.

I found it kind of shocking. I’d have tipped 20% or more anyway but how many people miss that and sign adding the tip on top, or at what point does an automatic gratuity become a subsidy and not a tip? Not sure but it surprised me and I don’t remember seeing that before.

Uh... isn't that everyone?

Anonymous wrote:Agree and now also they add a tax onto the drink order at the bar and present you the electronic payment with 20% tip butting for one drink smh. They don't even take cash! I prefer when a $10 drink is $10 flat and then you. Can leave 1 or 2 singles depending on the service.

When a restaurant/coffee shop/bar refuses to take cash, I don’t go there.

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Anonymous wrote:If you go to Europe, the common practice is to round up the bill to the next Euro and if service was good to great, you may give an extra Euro or two, but no pressure.

In Asia, no tipping. It's based on honor, the thinking being 'you don't need to tip me to do my job well'.

Here in the USA, you are presented with the bill on a tablet that defaults for starters to 25%!

WTH?

Tipping needs to be optional with no set limits. and none from people under 21 or over 65.

If your business can't pay employees enough, don't hire them. If you can't survive without tips, work somewhere else. People who are struggling to even pay the full bill of the products or the services, shouldn't have to pay this extortion tax.

Ones who afford to and willing to be generous can tip discreetly and at their discretion when service is good or they are feeling charitable.

This entire post is dumb, but the bolded is the dumbest. Anyone who can't afford to tip can't go out to eat at a sit-down restaurant. And you realize that some of the under 21s and over 65s are relying on tips, too?

I’m not the PP, but it sounds to me that they are saying those age groups should have to GIVE tips.

*should NOT

Today I had a casual lunch in Boulder CO- two of us. A 20% gratuity was added to our bill on the total with taxes. Menu states “20% included for all parties of one or more”.

I found it kind of shocking. I’d have tipped 20% or more anyway but how many people miss that and sign adding the tip on top, or at what point does an automatic gratuity become a subsidy and not a tip? Not sure but it surprised me and I don’t remember seeing that before.

Agree and now also they add a tax onto the drink order at the bar and present you the electronic payment with 20% tip butting for one drink smh. They don't even take cash! I prefer when a $10 drink is $10 flat and then you. Can leave 1 or 2 singles depending on the service.

Tipping is only out of hand if you let it get out of hand.

I don't tip for counter service. I tip 15% for average table service (up to 20% for good service or as low as 10% for truly bad service). I tip my barber, and I tip cab drivers.

If you are tipping more than this and complain about the cost, then this is your own problem.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you go to Europe, the common practice is to round up the bill to the next Euro and if service was good to great, you may give an extra Euro or two, but no pressure.

In Asia, no tipping. It's based on honor, the thinking being 'you don't need to tip me to do my job well'.

Here in the USA, you are presented with the bill on a tablet that defaults for starters to 25%!

WTH?

Tipping needs to be optional with no set limits. and none from people under 21 or over 65.

If your business can't pay employees enough, don't hire them. If you can't survive without tips, work somewhere else. People who are struggling to even pay the full bill of the products or the services, shouldn't have to pay this extortion tax.

Ones who afford to and willing to be generous can tip discreetly and at their discretion when service is good or they are feeling charitable.

This entire post is dumb, but the bolded is the dumbest. Anyone who can't afford to tip can't go out to eat at a sit-down restaurant. And you realize that some of the under 21s and over 65s are relying on tips, too?

I’m not the PP, but it sounds to me that they are saying those age groups should have to GIVE tips.

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Anonymous wrote:No. 20-22% is still standard. They can ask for whatever they want. You can do your own math and leave what you want.

15-20% is standard when you go by reality and not the "suggested tip" prompts that restaurant owners inflate to make you feel guilty.

When tips are a percentage of the bill it is ridiculous to ever increase the standard percentage over time because the menu prices increasing with inflation does that for you.

Likewise the opposite. A $25 tab in a diner where the waitstaff busts their hump. You know people are leaving $2, $3. I'll leave $10. If you can't afford that you shouldn't go to a diner. I forego the ridiculous $200 restaurants and associated outrageous tip for the effort expended so that I can tip the hard workers a little better.

To a point I agree but also a fine dining server is doing different work than a diner server and it's not unreasonable that there is some disparity in their pay.

For one, a fine dining server is serving a lot fewer tables and spending a lot more time per table. Somewhere like Minibar that only has like 3 seatings of 15 seats a night a server may only wait on 6 "tables" their entire shift yet still be carrying just as many plates and walking just as many steps as Flo at the diner when you consider they're bringing 15 courses plus wine pairings for each customer. There's also a level of knowledge and attention that the diner server doesn't have. Flo at the diner doesn't have to memorize 250 bottles of wine in the cellar and know how to pair them, and Flo at the diner refills your coffee when she has time to grab the pot and make the rounds while the fine dining server is monitoring everyone's water and refilling them precisely when they reach 1/4 full or whatever.

You may say "well I don't care if my water glass is sometimes empty so why should I pay for it" but that's part and parcel of fine dining. If you don't like it the diner and the $3 tips are always an option.

Anonymous wrote:If I am suggest to tip, I don't tip at all.

If I am required to tip, I don't pay at all.

If I am asked if I need change when paying cash, I don't tip at all and tell them why.

Never assume you are going to get a tip.

I think you can assume that if you go back to a place a second time after not tipping, you are going to get jizz in your food.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you go to Europe, the common practice is to round up the bill to the next Euro and if service was good to great, you may give an extra Euro or two, but no pressure.

In Asia, no tipping. It's based on honor, the thinking being 'you don't need to tip me to do my job well'.

Here in the USA, you are presented with the bill on a tablet that defaults for starters to 25%!

WTH?

Tipping needs to be optional with no set limits. and none from people under 21 or over 65.

If your business can't pay employees enough, don't hire them. If you can't survive without tips, work somewhere else. People who are struggling to even pay the full bill of the products or the services, shouldn't have to pay this extortion tax.

Ones who afford to and willing to be generous can tip discreetly and at their discretion when service is good or they are feeling charitable.

This entire post is dumb, but the bolded is the dumbest. Anyone who can't afford to tip can't go out to eat at a sit-down restaurant. And you realize that some of the under 21s and over 65s are relying on tips, too?

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree! And the greedier people get the less I go to these places. I’ll pick up my own takeout, even from the nicest restaurants. It’s ridiculous. Plus tipping at places like Starbucks will just make me not go to Starbucks. The prices are high enough and I like the money where it is in my bank account.

This is hilarious. Do you not get upset if you don't get a merit increase each year at your job? Is that being "greedy?"

The prices of the goods and services have gone up substantially. They already got their "merit" increase.

Anonymous wrote:Totally agree! And the greedier people get the less I go to these places. I’ll pick up my own takeout, even from the nicest restaurants. It’s ridiculous. Plus tipping at places like Starbucks will just make me not go to Starbucks. The prices are high enough and I like the money where it is in my bank account.

This is hilarious. Do you not get upset if you don't get a merit increase each year at your job? Is that being "greedy?"