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Anonymous wrote:So a 65 yr old should no longer be driving, OP? Is that your actual position?

Apologies - I shouldn’t have said boomers - I mean people born prior to 1950 basically. At 75 I think we should all have to take a driving test and we should have to take it at least every 5 years to keep our licenses.

Nice walk back. Let’s get the mod to edit your thread title and delete your earlier posts.

Why so touchy? Are you a boomer AND a bad driver? If not, don't take it personally.

Neither. Just not in so much of a hurry to condemn an entire generation or get where I’m going by breaking traffic laws.

Anonymous wrote:I doubt it’s the Boomers who are driving on the Beltway at speeds above 80, cutting in and out of lanes as if it were a video game.

Guess you haven’t driven with my 75-year-old FIL. He’s convinced his Tesla will save him.

Anonymous wrote:Here are some actual stats not from the insurance industry:

Each day, 25 older adults are killed and over 740 are injured in crashes.

Drivers aged 70+ have higher crash death rates per 1,000 crashes than middle-aged drivers (aged 35-54).

https://www.cdc.gov/older-adult-drivers/about/index.html

From the original source for that link and statistic:
2017-2018:
•Fatal crashes per licensed driver lower for drivers 70–79 than ages 35–54.
•All crashes per miles traveled lower for drivers 70–79 than ages 35–54.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022437521000463?via%

And from the NHTSA:
“Motor vehicle crashes were the leading cause of unintentional death in 2020 for the 15- to 24-year-old age group in the United States (CDC, n.d.). In 2021 some 2,116 drivers 15 to 20 years old were killed, and an estimated 203,256 were injured in motor vehicle crashes (NHTSA, 2023). In comparison with adult drivers, young drivers are substantially over-involved in crashes. In 2021 drivers 20 and under made up 5.1% of licensed drivers in the United States, yet they made up 8.5% of total drivers in all fatal crashes and 12.6% of drivers in all crashes. As shown in the figure below, drivers 15 to 20 years old have the highest involvement in fatal crashes of any age group.”
https://www.nhtsa.gov/book/countermeasures-that-work/young-drivers

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Anonymous wrote:Just a few examples. Scary that anyone can argue in defense of this.

This is meaningless without the full picture of all age groups.

+1. What a dumba$$. Context matters OP!! Show me the data that show boomer drivers kill more people than any other groups. Then we can talk.

See above - this also includes the drivers themselves I assume which is another bizarre facet of this argument - I assume these elderly people want to live?? So knowing that they are more likely to kill or be killed driving, why do they fight so hard to do it way beyond when their eyesight, reaction time, judgement, and just general safety have declined???

Anonymous wrote:You do realize that many Boomers are only in their early 60’s.

Stop labeling an entire generation of people because you’ve had a bad experience with a random older person who is probably Silent Generation.

—signed someone much younger than the youngest Boomer

No boomers are 1946-1964. The majority were born from 1946-1957. So “many” are not in early 60’s. Average age is about 70.

Also the vehement disagreement with the concept that people’s ability to drive safely decreases as their age increases just proves that it shouldn’t be left up to people to self assess this - just as it’s not left up to kids to decide when they are ready to drive safely. If you are elderly and consider yourself fit to drive, you should have no problem taking a test to confirm that. You should not leave it up to your kids or god forbid an accident to decide.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a few examples. Scary that anyone can argue in defense of this.

This is meaningless without the full picture of all age groups.

+1. What a dumba$$. Context matters OP!! Show me the data that show boomer drivers kill more people than any other groups. Then we can talk.

Here are some actual stats not from the insurance industry:

Each day, 25 older adults are killed and over 740 are injured in crashes.

Drivers aged 70+ have higher crash death rates per 1,000 crashes than middle-aged drivers (aged 35-54).

https://www.cdc.gov/older-adult-drivers/about/index.html

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a 63 year old boomer. Sorry, I am not going to stop driving. We did just convince my silent generation mother to stop driving. I think you are getting you generations confused.

The group of people I was referencing isn’t a named generation I guess - I meant people born before 1950 so you are right, I did not mean boomers. I’m sorry you had to convince her but it’s amazing you succeeded and hopefully once we all do this convincing, we will be more cognizant of when it’s our own time so our kids don’t have to convince us.

Younger generations have far more fatal accidents than the one you’re criticizing.

“Younger millennial drivers are responsible for the most fatal crashes across the country. On average, this age group comprises 18.8% of all fatal accidents.”

“Worst states for this age group: Washington, D.C., and Rhode Island”

See the link above for actual stats.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a 63 year old boomer. Sorry, I am not going to stop driving. We did just convince my silent generation mother to stop driving. I think you are getting you generations confused.

The group of people I was referencing isn’t a named generation I guess - I meant people born before 1950 so you are right, I did not mean boomers. I’m sorry you had to convince her but it’s amazing you succeeded and hopefully once we all do this convincing, we will be more cognizant of when it’s our own time so our kids don’t have to convince us.

boomers are anyone born before 1980

I'm a 63 year old boomer. Sorry, I am not going to stop driving. We did just convince my silent generation mother to stop driving. I think you are getting you generations confused.

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Anonymous wrote:So a 65 yr old should no longer be driving, OP? Is that your actual position?

Apologies - I shouldn’t have said boomers - I mean people born prior to 1950 basically. At 75 I think we should all have to take a driving test and we should have to take it at least every 5 years to keep our licenses.

Nice walk back. Let’s get the mod to edit your thread title and delete your earlier posts.

Why so touchy? Are you a boomer AND a bad driver? If not, don't take it personally.

Anonymous wrote:The oldest boomers are about to hit 80 and that’s the age when people driving skills can easily erode along with one’s health. I’m more concerned about millenial moms driving big SUVs chatting on the phone while sipping something from those massive water bottles.

All those SUVs have hands free calling but my moms 2009 Lexus? Not so much. And she is an 80 year old whatever she is driving around chatting… That is situational though - there is not one mandatory measure for her to confirm she is fit for the road though, phone or not. And she’s not!

Anonymous wrote:You do realize that many Boomers are only in their early 60’s.

Stop labeling an entire generation of people because you’ve had a bad experience with a random older person who is probably Silent Generation.

—signed someone much younger than the youngest Boomer

+1

“While most may assume the deadliest drivers are teens, drivers between 25 and 34 are involved in the most fatal auto accidents by age group.”

https://www.autoinsurance.org/age-groups-fatal-crashes/