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Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see any parent make a case against boundary changes that doesn't involve dramatics over two things:
1) my snowflake shouldn't have to move to schools because of friends.
2) I'm racist and paid $200k more for my house to not be with the poors.

Occasionally the data isn't good, and then the changes should be carefully considered. But I think most changes shouldn't involve any parent input at all. Because we are all led my emotion of our personal situation, not what is actually best for the school or the county or OTHER people who are coming behind us.

And I have yet to see a compelling reason for boundary changes except:

1) I don’t care about any kids but my own, gimme a handout; or
2) screw whitey.

See, we can all be dumb reductionists like you.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to talk particulars of the different boundaries like the other threads. Just how to we, as individuals and groups, push the issue?

Letter writing? Collect and hire legal counsel for a class action? Picket?

I know there are some pretty smart people on here. What are the best courses of action?

Best thing you can do is reach out to your school board reps (all 4) to let them know you oppose the boundary changes. Make it personal, but avoid talking about property value - the school board members don’t care about property values even though school quality is linked to them.

Next is organize a campaign to contact school board members. Timber Lane had a big campaign to stay at McLean instead of being moved, and they were vindicated today when the new maps were released.

Next, longer term, is don’t just vote for these clowns because they have a D next to their names. I say that as someone who just filled out my mail in ballot voting for the Ds at the statewide level, but opposed the school bond, which I used to vote for. You are just one vote, but if the school board members fear for their jobs or funding then the boundary change crap will disappear mighty quick.

There is at least one organization, fairfact matters that appears to generally be against the boundary changes. You should consider reaching out to them to see if there are other things.

Ridiculous. I can't take anything you said seriously because you opposed the school bond.

DP. Why should people vote for this school bond? Enrollment is declining yet they want to open new schools and expand existing ones when they could be making current facilities nicer. They aren’t good stewards of taxpayer money.

Couldn’t agree more. Time to do the only thing voters can do at this time. Send a clear message that the superintendent and SB are poor stewards of taxpayer money by voting “no” on the school bond initiative on the ballot.

The words of someone who doesn't have any kids in FCPS, but for some reason is heavily invested in this boundary change process.

DP. To be fair, hurriedly buying a School for $150 million without realizing there will be an extra $30-50 million in renovation costs isn’t exactly stellar stewardship of our tax dollars.

To be fair, no one ever said there wouldn't be some additional renovation costs except people like you. To be fair, the facilities guy said it could be less if it was a traditional school, which it looks almost certain to be. To be fair, this is much, much cheaper than building a new school and they are having no problems filling it - in fact people are fighting to get in. This school solves so many problems in western Fairfax and could save even more money over the just the cost of building a new highs school if they can also avoid expanding Centerville.

Dunne said he was surprised at the additional cost.

Wasn't Dunne the one that was trying to take credit for this acquisition?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to talk particulars of the different boundaries like the other threads. Just how to we, as individuals and groups, push the issue?

Letter writing? Collect and hire legal counsel for a class action? Picket?

I know there are some pretty smart people on here. What are the best courses of action?

Best thing you can do is reach out to your school board reps (all 4) to let them know you oppose the boundary changes. Make it personal, but avoid talking about property value - the school board members don’t care about property values even though school quality is linked to them.

Next is organize a campaign to contact school board members. Timber Lane had a big campaign to stay at McLean instead of being moved, and they were vindicated today when the new maps were released.

Next, longer term, is don’t just vote for these clowns because they have a D next to their names. I say that as someone who just filled out my mail in ballot voting for the Ds at the statewide level, but opposed the school bond, which I used to vote for. You are just one vote, but if the school board members fear for their jobs or funding then the boundary change crap will disappear mighty quick.

There is at least one organization, fairfact matters that appears to generally be against the boundary changes. You should consider reaching out to them to see if there are other things.

Ridiculous. I can't take anything you said seriously because you opposed the school bond.

DP. Why should people vote for this school bond? Enrollment is declining yet they want to open new schools and expand existing ones when they could be making current facilities nicer. They aren’t good stewards of taxpayer money.

Couldn’t agree more. Time to do the only thing voters can do at this time. Send a clear message that the superintendent and SB are poor stewards of taxpayer money by voting “no” on the school bond initiative on the ballot.

The words of someone who doesn't have any kids in FCPS, but for some reason is heavily invested in this boundary change process.

DP. To be fair, hurriedly buying a School for $150 million without realizing there will be an extra $30-50 million in renovation costs isn’t exactly stellar stewardship of our tax dollars.

To be fair, no one ever said there wouldn't be some additional renovation costs except people like you. To be fair, the facilities guy said it could be less if it was a traditional school, which it looks almost certain to be. To be fair, this is much, much cheaper than building a new school and they are having no problems filling it - in fact people are fighting to get in. This school solves so many problems in western Fairfax and could save even more money over the just the cost of building a new highs school if they can also avoid expanding Centerville.

Dunne said he was surprised at the additional cost.

Anonymous wrote:My kids are among the Carson kids who go to South Lakes, and it has been awful each time. South Lakes is a fine school, but most of the kids come from Hughes and are already in cliques and it’s hard for the kids coming from Carson. Meanwhile their friends from Carson go all over the place.

I honestly don’t care what else they do but they need to eliminate this kind of split feeder thing because it hurts kids.

But I also think this needs to be one and done, no more dynamic boundaries, what is needed is stability and defined communities. Especially when the child population is declining. I know people hate on mobile classrooms, but they are better than shifting kids around and disrupting communities.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to talk particulars of the different boundaries like the other threads. Just how to we, as individuals and groups, push the issue?

Letter writing? Collect and hire legal counsel for a class action? Picket?

I know there are some pretty smart people on here. What are the best courses of action?

Best thing you can do is reach out to your school board reps (all 4) to let them know you oppose the boundary changes. Make it personal, but avoid talking about property value - the school board members don’t care about property values even though school quality is linked to them.

Next is organize a campaign to contact school board members. Timber Lane had a big campaign to stay at McLean instead of being moved, and they were vindicated today when the new maps were released.

Next, longer term, is don’t just vote for these clowns because they have a D next to their names. I say that as someone who just filled out my mail in ballot voting for the Ds at the statewide level, but opposed the school bond, which I used to vote for. You are just one vote, but if the school board members fear for their jobs or funding then the boundary change crap will disappear mighty quick.

There is at least one organization, fairfact matters that appears to generally be against the boundary changes. You should consider reaching out to them to see if there are other things.

Ridiculous. I can't take anything you said seriously because you opposed the school bond.

DP. Why should people vote for this school bond? Enrollment is declining yet they want to open new schools and expand existing ones when they could be making current facilities nicer. They aren’t good stewards of taxpayer money.

Couldn’t agree more. Time to do the only thing voters can do at this time. Send a clear message that the superintendent and SB are poor stewards of taxpayer money by voting “no” on the school bond initiative on the ballot.

The words of someone who doesn't have any kids in FCPS, but for some reason is heavily invested in this boundary change process.

DP. To be fair, hurriedly buying a School for $150 million without realizing there will be an extra $30-50 million in renovation costs isn’t exactly stellar stewardship of our tax dollars.

To be fair, no one ever said there wouldn't be some additional renovation costs except people like you. To be fair, the facilities guy said it could be less if it was a traditional school, which it looks almost certain to be. To be fair, this is much, much cheaper than building a new school and they are having no problems filling it - in fact people are fighting to get in. This school solves so many problems in western Fairfax and could save even more money over the just the cost of building a new highs school if they can also avoid expanding Centerville.

So, happy Carson families throwing Centreville under a bus yet again. “We get the new school we want, and you get your expansion canceled and maybe a ticket to Westfield.”

Thier bus ride to Westfield would still be shorter than the bus ride to Oakton that Crossfield families have been saddled with.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pro boundary changes and I don’t understand why it takes them so long to do them. School boundaries should be more dynamic. My elementary school is currently very overcrowded because they opened a new development. But the other two elementary schools which are 1/4 mile and 1 mile away are under enrolled.

What we need is a neutral boundary change process that depends on data and not humans to do it. I’m sick of Gerrymandered boundaries.

School boundary rezonings should require a residdncy check of all schools under consideration for rezoning.

The kids from out of boundary should be removed before any in boundary students . . .

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to talk particulars of the different boundaries like the other threads. Just how to we, as individuals and groups, push the issue?

Letter writing? Collect and hire legal counsel for a class action? Picket?

I know there are some pretty smart people on here. What are the best courses of action?

Best thing you can do is reach out to your school board reps (all 4) to let them know you oppose the boundary changes. Make it personal, but avoid talking about property value - the school board members don’t care about property values even though school quality is linked to them.

Next is organize a campaign to contact school board members. Timber Lane had a big campaign to stay at McLean instead of being moved, and they were vindicated today when the new maps were released.

Next, longer term, is don’t just vote for these clowns because they have a D next to their names. I say that as someone who just filled out my mail in ballot voting for the Ds at the statewide level, but opposed the school bond, which I used to vote for. You are just one vote, but if the school board members fear for their jobs or funding then the boundary change crap will disappear mighty quick.

There is at least one organization, fairfact matters that appears to generally be against the boundary changes. You should consider reaching out to them to see if there are other things.

Ridiculous. I can't take anything you said seriously because you opposed the school bond.

DP. Why should people vote for this school bond? Enrollment is declining yet they want to open new schools and expand existing ones when they could be making current facilities nicer. They aren’t good stewards of taxpayer money.

Couldn’t agree more. Time to do the only thing voters can do at this time. Send a clear message that the superintendent and SB are poor stewards of taxpayer money by voting “no” on the school bond initiative on the ballot.

The words of someone who doesn't have any kids in FCPS, but for some reason is heavily invested in this boundary change process.

DP. To be fair, hurriedly buying a School for $150 million without realizing there will be an extra $30-50 million in renovation costs isn’t exactly stellar stewardship of our tax dollars.

To be fair, no one ever said there wouldn't be some additional renovation costs except people like you. To be fair, the facilities guy said it could be less if it was a traditional school, which it looks almost certain to be. To be fair, this is much, much cheaper than building a new school and they are having no problems filling it - in fact people are fighting to get in. This school solves so many problems in western Fairfax and could save even more money over the just the cost of building a new highs school if they can also avoid expanding Centerville.

So, happy Carson families throwing Centreville under a bus yet again. “We get the new school we want, and you get your expansion canceled and maybe a ticket to Westfield.”

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to talk particulars of the different boundaries like the other threads. Just how to we, as individuals and groups, push the issue?

Letter writing? Collect and hire legal counsel for a class action? Picket?

I know there are some pretty smart people on here. What are the best courses of action?

Best thing you can do is reach out to your school board reps (all 4) to let them know you oppose the boundary changes. Make it personal, but avoid talking about property value - the school board members don’t care about property values even though school quality is linked to them.

Next is organize a campaign to contact school board members. Timber Lane had a big campaign to stay at McLean instead of being moved, and they were vindicated today when the new maps were released.

Next, longer term, is don’t just vote for these clowns because they have a D next to their names. I say that as someone who just filled out my mail in ballot voting for the Ds at the statewide level, but opposed the school bond, which I used to vote for. You are just one vote, but if the school board members fear for their jobs or funding then the boundary change crap will disappear mighty quick.

There is at least one organization, fairfact matters that appears to generally be against the boundary changes. You should consider reaching out to them to see if there are other things.

Ridiculous. I can't take anything you said seriously because you opposed the school bond.

DP. Why should people vote for this school bond? Enrollment is declining yet they want to open new schools and expand existing ones when they could be making current facilities nicer. They aren’t good stewards of taxpayer money.

Couldn’t agree more. Time to do the only thing voters can do at this time. Send a clear message that the superintendent and SB are poor stewards of taxpayer money by voting “no” on the school bond initiative on the ballot.

The words of someone who doesn't have any kids in FCPS, but for some reason is heavily invested in this boundary change process.

DP. To be fair, hurriedly buying a School for $150 million without realizing there will be an extra $30-50 million in renovation costs isn’t exactly stellar stewardship of our tax dollars.

To be fair, no one ever said there wouldn't be some additional renovation costs except people like you. To be fair, the facilities guy said it could be less if it was a traditional school, which it looks almost certain to be. To be fair, this is much, much cheaper than building a new school and they are having no problems filling it - in fact people are fighting to get in. This school solves so many problems in western Fairfax and could save even more money over the just the cost of building a new highs school if they can also avoid expanding Centerville.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to talk particulars of the different boundaries like the other threads. Just how to we, as individuals and groups, push the issue?

Letter writing? Collect and hire legal counsel for a class action? Picket?

I know there are some pretty smart people on here. What are the best courses of action?

Best thing you can do is reach out to your school board reps (all 4) to let them know you oppose the boundary changes. Make it personal, but avoid talking about property value - the school board members don’t care about property values even though school quality is linked to them.

Next is organize a campaign to contact school board members. Timber Lane had a big campaign to stay at McLean instead of being moved, and they were vindicated today when the new maps were released.

Next, longer term, is don’t just vote for these clowns because they have a D next to their names. I say that as someone who just filled out my mail in ballot voting for the Ds at the statewide level, but opposed the school bond, which I used to vote for. You are just one vote, but if the school board members fear for their jobs or funding then the boundary change crap will disappear mighty quick.

There is at least one organization, fairfact matters that appears to generally be against the boundary changes. You should consider reaching out to them to see if there are other things.

Ridiculous. I can't take anything you said seriously because you opposed the school bond.

DP. Why should people vote for this school bond? Enrollment is declining yet they want to open new schools and expand existing ones when they could be making current facilities nicer. They aren’t good stewards of taxpayer money.

Couldn’t agree more. Time to do the only thing voters can do at this time. Send a clear message that the superintendent and SB are poor stewards of taxpayer money by voting “no” on the school bond initiative on the ballot.

The words of someone who doesn't have any kids in FCPS, but for some reason is heavily invested in this boundary change process.

DP. To be fair, hurriedly buying a School for $150 million without realizing there will be an extra $30-50 million in renovation costs isn’t exactly stellar stewardship of our tax dollars.

To be fair, no one ever said there wouldn't be some additional renovation costs except people like you. To be fair, the facilities guy said it could be less if it was a traditional school, which it looks almost certain to be. To be fair, this is much, much cheaper than building a new school and they are having no problems filling it - in fact people are fighting to get in. This school solves so many problems in western Fairfax and could save even more money over the just the cost of building a new highs school if they can also avoid expanding Centerville.

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Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see any parent make a case against boundary changes that doesn't involve dramatics over two things:
1) my snowflake shouldn't have to move to schools because of friends.
2) I'm racist and paid $200k more for my house to not be with the poors.

Occasionally the data isn't good, and then the changes should be carefully considered. But I think most changes shouldn't involve any parent input at all. Because we are all led my emotion of our personal situation, not what is actually best for the school or the county or OTHER people who are coming behind us.

People throw around words a lot these days, especially behind a computer/phone. But, I don't think it's racist to want to send your kids to the best school you can....based on available data like test scores and program availability.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to talk particulars of the different boundaries like the other threads. Just how to we, as individuals and groups, push the issue?

Letter writing? Collect and hire legal counsel for a class action? Picket?

I know there are some pretty smart people on here. What are the best courses of action?

Best thing you can do is reach out to your school board reps (all 4) to let them know you oppose the boundary changes. Make it personal, but avoid talking about property value - the school board members don’t care about property values even though school quality is linked to them.

Next is organize a campaign to contact school board members. Timber Lane had a big campaign to stay at McLean instead of being moved, and they were vindicated today when the new maps were released.

Next, longer term, is don’t just vote for these clowns because they have a D next to their names. I say that as someone who just filled out my mail in ballot voting for the Ds at the statewide level, but opposed the school bond, which I used to vote for. You are just one vote, but if the school board members fear for their jobs or funding then the boundary change crap will disappear mighty quick.

There is at least one organization, fairfact matters that appears to generally be against the boundary changes. You should consider reaching out to them to see if there are other things.

Ridiculous. I can't take anything you said seriously because you opposed the school bond.

DP. Why should people vote for this school bond? Enrollment is declining yet they want to open new schools and expand existing ones when they could be making current facilities nicer. They aren’t good stewards of taxpayer money.

Couldn’t agree more. Time to do the only thing voters can do at this time. Send a clear message that the superintendent and SB are poor stewards of taxpayer money by voting “no” on the school bond initiative on the ballot.

The words of someone who doesn't have any kids in FCPS, but for some reason is heavily invested in this boundary change process.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to talk particulars of the different boundaries like the other threads. Just how to we, as individuals and groups, push the issue?

Letter writing? Collect and hire legal counsel for a class action? Picket?

I know there are some pretty smart people on here. What are the best courses of action?

Best thing you can do is reach out to your school board reps (all 4) to let them know you oppose the boundary changes. Make it personal, but avoid talking about property value - the school board members don’t care about property values even though school quality is linked to them.

Next is organize a campaign to contact school board members. Timber Lane had a big campaign to stay at McLean instead of being moved, and they were vindicated today when the new maps were released.

Next, longer term, is don’t just vote for these clowns because they have a D next to their names. I say that as someone who just filled out my mail in ballot voting for the Ds at the statewide level, but opposed the school bond, which I used to vote for. You are just one vote, but if the school board members fear for their jobs or funding then the boundary change crap will disappear mighty quick.

There is at least one organization, fairfact matters that appears to generally be against the boundary changes. You should consider reaching out to them to see if there are other things.

Ridiculous. I can't take anything you said seriously because you opposed the school bond.

DP. Why should people vote for this school bond? Enrollment is declining yet they want to open new schools and expand existing ones when they could be making current facilities nicer. They aren’t good stewards of taxpayer money.

Couldn’t agree more. Time to do the only thing voters can do at this time. Send a clear message that the superintendent and SB are poor stewards of taxpayer money by voting “no” on the school bond initiative on the ballot.

The words of someone who doesn't have any kids in FCPS, but for some reason is heavily invested in this boundary change process.

DP. To be fair, hurriedly buying a School for $150 million without realizing there will be an extra $30-50 million in renovation costs isn’t exactly stellar stewardship of our tax dollars.

To be fair, no one ever said there wouldn't be some additional renovation costs except people like you. To be fair, the facilities guy said it could be less if it was a traditional school, which it looks almost certain to be. To be fair, this is much, much cheaper than building a new school and they are having no problems filling it - in fact people are fighting to get in. This school solves so many problems in western Fairfax and could save even more money over the just the cost of building a new highs school if they can also avoid expanding Centerville.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to talk particulars of the different boundaries like the other threads. Just how to we, as individuals and groups, push the issue?

Letter writing? Collect and hire legal counsel for a class action? Picket?

I know there are some pretty smart people on here. What are the best courses of action?

Best thing you can do is reach out to your school board reps (all 4) to let them know you oppose the boundary changes. Make it personal, but avoid talking about property value - the school board members don’t care about property values even though school quality is linked to them.

Next is organize a campaign to contact school board members. Timber Lane had a big campaign to stay at McLean instead of being moved, and they were vindicated today when the new maps were released.

Next, longer term, is don’t just vote for these clowns because they have a D next to their names. I say that as someone who just filled out my mail in ballot voting for the Ds at the statewide level, but opposed the school bond, which I used to vote for. You are just one vote, but if the school board members fear for their jobs or funding then the boundary change crap will disappear mighty quick.

There is at least one organization, fairfact matters that appears to generally be against the boundary changes. You should consider reaching out to them to see if there are other things.

Ridiculous. I can't take anything you said seriously because you opposed the school bond.

DP. Why should people vote for this school bond? Enrollment is declining yet they want to open new schools and expand existing ones when they could be making current facilities nicer. They aren’t good stewards of taxpayer money.

Couldn’t agree more. Time to do the only thing voters can do at this time. Send a clear message that the superintendent and SB are poor stewards of taxpayer money by voting “no” on the school bond initiative on the ballot.

The words of someone who doesn't have any kids in FCPS, but for some reason is heavily invested in this boundary change process.

DP. To be fair, hurriedly buying a School for $150 million without realizing there will be an extra $30-50 million in renovation costs isn’t exactly stellar stewardship of our tax dollars.

Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see any parent make a case against boundary changes that doesn't involve dramatics over two things:
1) my snowflake shouldn't have to move to schools because of friends.
2) I'm racist and paid $200k more for my house to not be with the poors.

Occasionally the data isn't good, and then the changes should be carefully considered. But I think most changes shouldn't involve any parent input at all. Because we are all led my emotion of our personal situation, not what is actually best for the school or the county or OTHER people who are coming behind us.

Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see any parent make a case against boundary changes that doesn't involve dramatics over two things:
1) my snowflake shouldn't have to move to schools because of friends.
2) I'm racist and paid $200k more for my house to not be with the poors.

Occasionally the data isn't good, and then the changes should be carefully considered. But I think most changes shouldn't involve any parent input at all. Because we are all led my emotion of our personal situation, not what is actually best for the school or the county or OTHER people who are coming behind us.