Anonymous wrote:So, if majority of the population is jobless and therefore destitute and poor then who will be buying products these billionaires are selling? How does this work? No one can afford, Netflix, Hulu etc if they don’t have a job.

This is where extortion comes in.

Anonymous wrote:So, who's programming all this AI? Code doesn't write itself.

+1

And don't say "AI codes itself". Because then I can say "Code that codes itself doesn't code itself".

There is no Skynet.

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What will people do?

Maybe Trump will have ICE round up all the AI "stealing" our jobs?

Isn't it something that it's okay for AI to steal jobs but not okay for "illegals" to "steal" jobs (ones that no one wants).

Relax, it’s a report by Sanders designed to scare

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Anonymous wrote:You know who isn’t worried?

Plumbers
Electricians
Carpenters
Nurses
Doctors
Dentists
Police officers
Landscapers
Construction workers
Teachers
Physical therapists
EMTs
Surgeons

They should be. 100 million less jobs means a hell of a lot more competition for the jobs that still exist, lower wages and benefits because of increased competition, and we will all suffer in a society with a lot more angry and desperate people.

+1 if no one else has a job, who’s going to pay for their services?

Exactly. It's terrifying how little people understand abiut how society works and how tied together our fates really are. You don't eliminate the livelihood of millions of people, and the society as a whole doesn't feel it.

I expect the tech bros will find a way to ensure their services are never, ever impacted. Don't want to pay for their services? Then don't eat.

Anonymous wrote:White-collar work is going to experience what manufacturing already did with outsourcing, and service jobs experienced with immigration. It won't happen overnight but it will be a steady grind with wages stagnating each year, and jobs becoming less and less secure.

You'll probably have to also deal with snarky comments like "learn to code" or being told how hard-working the AI is.

The funniest part is the people that will lose their jobs are the kinds of people that like to repeat the "first they came for..." piece. Now no one is left to care about your jobs, and many may even cheer on your unemployment as you cheered on theirs.

So, now pretty much everyone is unemployed, blue collar workers have no market to sell their services to and then what? There is no tax base because people are unemployed, so who is paying for Medicaid or SSI etc? This gloating will last 5 seconds when you find out that people like you are now 10 x worse off than you thought.

Anonymous wrote:White-collar work is going to experience what manufacturing already did with outsourcing, and service jobs experienced with immigration. It won't happen overnight but it will be a steady grind with wages stagnating each year, and jobs becoming less and less secure.

You'll probably have to also deal with snarky comments like "learn to code" or being told how hard-working the AI is.

The funniest part is the people that will lose their jobs are the kinds of people that like to repeat the "first they came for..." piece. Now no one is left to care about your jobs, and many may even cheer on your unemployment as you cheered on theirs.

This. We have very little time left for a critical mass of Americans to develop some solidarity with their fellow workers and any sense of intersecionailty. None of this happens in a vacuum. You can't shrug as bad things happens to your neighbors and honestly believe it will not eventually affect you.

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Anonymous wrote:You know who isn’t worried?

Plumbers
Electricians
Carpenters
Nurses
Doctors
Dentists
Police officers
Landscapers
Construction workers
Teachers
Physical therapists
EMTs
Surgeons

How will people pay for these services if they don’t have jobs?

Exactly. People have zero logical reasoning skills, if 100 million White Collar people are unemployed then there goes your market for blue collar services. No we don't need landscapers, plumbers, construction workers, we can do those tasks ourselves. As for medical professionals, only for emergency or I can always go to Mexico or India.

Who will pay the Teachers if majority of tax base is gone?

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of the people making these claims actually use AI for anything serious? It's absolutely, laughably, terrible at many forms of even basic analysis.

The AI that you currently have access to isn't meant to actually be useful. It's meant to be useful and entertaining enough that you'll use it and help train it. The AI these companies are actually working to build is not and will not be available to the public. It will be used by the corporations to create products/services that you will have little choice in using because it will be in everything, everywhere.

How's that tinfoil hat feeling? Seems like it might be a little bit snug.

All you have to do is look around and you can see it. I work in tech. I talk to these tech CEOs. They aren't keeping their plans secret. They're writing books and giving lectures.

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of the people making these claims actually use AI for anything serious? It's absolutely, laughably, terrible at many forms of even basic analysis.

It's just not. There are many resources that can help you with your points of failure, though.

Np. Interesting. What tasks are you using AI for? AI is good at writing basic python scripts that I then need to edit for my network environment. But it cannot do any other tasks for my job.

White-collar work is going to experience what manufacturing already did with outsourcing, and service jobs experienced with immigration. It won't happen overnight but it will be a steady grind with wages stagnating each year, and jobs becoming less and less secure.

You'll probably have to also deal with snarky comments like "learn to code" or being told how hard-working the AI is.

The funniest part is the people that will lose their jobs are the kinds of people that like to repeat the "first they came for..." piece. Now no one is left to care about your jobs, and many may even cheer on your unemployment as you cheered on theirs.

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of the people making these claims actually use AI for anything serious? It's absolutely, laughably, terrible at many forms of even basic analysis.

The AI that you currently have access to isn't meant to actually be useful. It's meant to be useful and entertaining enough that you'll use it and help train it. The AI these companies are actually working to build is not and will not be available to the public. It will be used by the corporations to create products/services that you will have little choice in using because it will be in everything, everywhere.

How's that tinfoil hat feeling? Seems like it might be a little bit snug.

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Anonymous wrote:Solution- more immigration!

Yes! That’s what we need! More uneducated people who are only capable of doing menial tasks, which are of the type that will be replaced by automation first! Great idea!

Truly, do you not see how you're being racist?

Where did I mention ANYTHING about race?


I think YOU are the actual racist here, since you *assumed* that those unskilled people were black or brown.

No, I'm not. You know what very well what you did. Your post is riddled with racist and xenophobic dog whistles. You didn't have to mention race for your racist intentions to be clear.

If you hear the whistle, you are the dog.

"If someone doesn't specifically call you a N-er but alludes to a bunch of prejudiced BS, they aren't racist, but you are for pointing it out!"

Idiots.

Anonymous wrote:You know who isn’t worried?

Plumbers
Electricians
Carpenters
Nurses
Doctors
Dentists
Police officers
Landscapers
Construction workers
Teachers
Physical therapists
EMTs
Surgeons

How will people pay for these services if they don’t have jobs?

Anonymous wrote:So, if majority of the population is jobless and therefore destitute and poor then who will be buying products these billionaires are selling? How does this work? No one can afford, Netflix, Hulu etc if they don’t have a job.

Money isn't real. Society doesn't actually require money, it requires labor (for now). The billionaire class won't need you to buy their products once they've cemented control over society (the oligarchical police-state they are in the process of solidifying). They will enslave the labor they still require and the rest of us will be left to rot or outright killed.

For anyone interested, check out what the people behind this regime are saying. They write books and give speeches and talk openly about their visions for the future. It's terrifying and they are already very much in the process of making it a reality. And few people are really paying attention or understanding what these guys are up to. Techno feudalism is the plan. You will own nothing, you will have no rights, and you work for and will answer to them.

This is not ultimately about money. Money is a conduit for power. They do not care if you can buy their products once they have all the money and power.

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Anonymous wrote:Solution- more immigration!

Yes! That’s what we need! More uneducated people who are only capable of doing menial tasks, which are of the type that will be replaced by automation first! Great idea!

Truly, do you not see how you're being racist?

Where did I mention ANYTHING about race?


I think YOU are the actual racist here, since you *assumed* that those unskilled people were black or brown.

No, I'm not. You know what very well what you did. Your post is riddled with racist and xenophobic dog whistles. You didn't have to mention race for your racist intentions to be clear.

If you hear the whistle, you are the dog.