Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s grad schools and research that bring a university world wide fame.
Quality of undergrad is more important if you are shopping for undergrad school. Harvey Mudd is not even on this list because no grad programs. But Mudd is GREAT at undergrad STEM.
omg not this again...this is getting so old. It's not just these schools have graduate schools but it is also the undergraduate research opportunities at these at these schools which are created by the graduate work. They go hand in hand. Harvey Mudd cannot compete with the Top Stem schools for research opportunities for undergrads. They are fine in their lane but they are in a different lane and it's not close.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s grad schools and research that bring a university world wide fame.
Quality of undergrad is more important if you are shopping for undergrad school. Harvey Mudd is not even on this list because no grad programs. But Mudd is GREAT at undergrad STEM.
Anonymous wrote:It’s grad schools and research that bring a university world wide fame.
Anonymous wrote:It’s grad schools and research that bring a university world wide fame.
Anonymous wrote:
I understand what you are saying...BUT the fact that Notre Dame is not up there with the Top Stem schools for research made it a less attractive option for my Engineering focused kid . But we truly did like everything else about the school. I would say they do sell the football program quite a bit there and there is nothing wrong with that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Notre Dame is $294. What a joke
Clearly this is a very specific ranking based on REsearch productivity. ZERO impact to udnergraduate education…..Unless of course you select U of Arizona ahead of Notre Dame
For most of the world, that’s what makes your college elite. It’s only in the US where we base it off young men’s ability to throw a ball.
I'm no apologist for the University of Notre Dame, but that last comment is pretty harsh. Sure, Notre Dame is a football school, but it's a very well regarded academic institution with an emphasis on undergraduate education. To imply that the school is not elite because it's not a behemoth research giant like UMich, Berkeley, or MIT seems misguided, especially since the Times Higher Ed's rankings are precisely that -- a research university-centric ranking.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Notre Dame is $294. What a joke
Clearly this is a very specific ranking based on REsearch productivity. ZERO impact to udnergraduate education…..Unless of course you select U of Arizona ahead of Notre Dame
For most of the world, that’s what makes your college elite. It’s only in the US where we base it off young men’s ability to throw a ball.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s basically us news T20 minus a few ivies. In a slightly different order.
Not exactly
US only Top 20
US World
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
2 Princeton University
3 Harvard University
3 Stanford University
5 California Institute of Technology
6 University of California, Berkeley
7 Yale University
8 University of Pennsylvania
9 The University of Chicago
10 Johns Hopkins University
11 Cornell University
11 University of California, Los Angeles
13 Columbia University
14 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
15 Carnegie Mellon University
16 University of Washington
17 Duke University
18 Northwestern University
19 New York University
20 Georgia Institute of Technology
If you read what I wrote: "minus a few ivies". It's pretty close!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see how well the University of Washington does on these global research university rankings.
Also noted that the top-3 US public universities are the same on both the US News "2026 Best Colleges" list and the Times Higher Education "2026 World University Rankings" list:
1. University of California, Berkeley
2. University of California, Los Angeles
3. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Top 4 on Times
1. University of California, Berkeley
2. University of California, Los Angeles
3. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
4. Georgia Institute of Technology
Anonymous wrote:This is heavily STEM focused. Doesn’t mean much to me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rank Name Overall info
1 University of Oxford United Kingdom
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology United States
=3 Princeton University United States
=3 University of Cambridge United Kingdom
=5 Harvard University United States
=5 Stanford University United States
7 California Institute of Technology United States
8 Imperial College London United Kingdom
9 University of California, Berkeley United States
10 Yale University United States
11 ETH Zurich Switzerland
12 Tsinghua University China
13 Peking University China
14 University of Pennsylvania United States
15 The University of Chicago United States
16 Johns Hopkins University United States
17 National University of Singapore Singapore
=18 Cornell University United States
=18 University of California, Los Angeles United States
20 Columbia University United States
21 University of Toronto Canada
22 UCL United Kingdom
23 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor United States
24 Carnegie Mellon University United States
25 University of Washington United States
26 The University of Tokyo Japan
27 Technical University of Munich Germany
28 Duke University United States
29 University of Edinburgh United Kingdom
30 Northwestern University United States
31 New York University United States
=41 Georgia Institute of Technology United States
=41 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign United States
47 University of California, San Diego United States
50 University of Texas at Austin United States
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/latest/world-ranking
Notre Dame is $294. What a joke
Clearly this is a very specific ranking based on REsearch productivity. ZERO impact to udnergraduate education…..Unless of course you select U of Arizona ahead of Notre Dame
For most of the world, that’s what makes your college elite. It’s only in the US where we base it off young men’s ability to throw a ball.