Anonymous
10/07/2025 15:22
Subject: Rankings factors which are irrelevant to undergraduate experience
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of the factors that go into college rankings seem irrelevant to the undergrad experience, particularly for non-STEM. Factors like research tier status, athletics conferences, and graduate programs seem less important than things like student to professor ratio, likelihood that a class will be on line, likelihood that grad student will teach a class, etc.
Where can I go to find rankings that disaggregate the less relevant factors?
Research tier is quite important to undergrad education and not just for stem majors
If research comes at the expense of classrooms with 100 kids, we’ll pass….
Anonymous
10/07/2025 13:25
Subject: Rankings factors which are irrelevant to undergraduate experience
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of the factors that go into college rankings seem irrelevant to the undergrad experience, particularly for non-STEM. Factors like research tier status, athletics conferences, and graduate programs seem less important than things like student to professor ratio, likelihood that a class will be on line, likelihood that grad student will teach a class, etc.
Where can I go to find rankings that disaggregate the less relevant factors?
Research tier is quite important to undergrad education and not just for stem majors
Interesting, could you share more about this?
Anonymous
10/07/2025 13:21
Subject: Rankings factors which are irrelevant to undergraduate experience
Anonymous wrote:Many of the factors that go into college rankings seem irrelevant to the undergrad experience, particularly for non-STEM. Factors like research tier status, athletics conferences, and graduate programs seem less important than things like student to professor ratio, likelihood that a class will be on line, likelihood that grad student will teach a class, etc.
Where can I go to find rankings that disaggregate the less relevant factors?
Research tier is quite important to undergrad education and not just for stem majors
Anonymous
10/07/2025 12:52
Subject: Rankings factors which are irrelevant to undergraduate experience
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Name a single university that doesn’t have small seminar courses for upper division courses in the humanities. Name a single one.
Humanities students don’t need to worry about student faculty ratios.
There are actually schools that provide these classes for entering humanities students. You can argue over the benefit, but there are schools where students don’t have to wait until upper division.
It’s even worse when humanities students with genuine interest in their field need to be stuck in the same room with 150 STEM drones who are taking the intro classes to fulfill gen ed requirements….
By "drones" you mean students that will have actual good paying jobs upon graduation from college?
I literally mean cyborgs. Are you not up on the latest tech? Guess you don’t work “for the government.”
Anonymous
10/07/2025 12:49
Subject: Rankings factors which are irrelevant to undergraduate experience
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Name a single university that doesn’t have small seminar courses for upper division courses in the humanities. Name a single one.
Humanities students don’t need to worry about student faculty ratios.
There are actually schools that provide these classes for entering humanities students. You can argue over the benefit, but there are schools where students don’t have to wait until upper division.
It’s even worse when humanities students with genuine interest in their field need to be stuck in the same room with 150 STEM drones who are taking the intro classes to fulfill gen ed requirements….
By "drones" you mean students that will have actual good paying jobs upon graduation from college?
That’s great and all but it doesn’t improve someone who is genuinely interested in the humanities’ education. Sometimes it’s necessary to think beyond yourself
Anonymous
10/07/2025 07:52
Subject: Rankings factors which are irrelevant to undergraduate experience
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Name a single university that doesn’t have small seminar courses for upper division courses in the humanities. Name a single one.
Humanities students don’t need to worry about student faculty ratios.
There are actually schools that provide these classes for entering humanities students. You can argue over the benefit, but there are schools where students don’t have to wait until upper division.
It’s even worse when humanities students with genuine interest in their field need to be stuck in the same room with 150 STEM drones who are taking the intro classes to fulfill gen ed requirements….
By "drones" you mean students that will have actual good paying jobs upon graduation from college?
Anonymous
10/07/2025 07:41
Subject: Rankings factors which are irrelevant to undergraduate experience
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of the factors that go into college rankings seem irrelevant to the undergrad experience, particularly for non-STEM. Factors like research tier status, athletics conferences, and graduate programs seem less important than things like student to professor ratio, likelihood that a class will be on line, likelihood that grad student will teach a class, etc.
Where can I go to find rankings that disaggregate the less relevant factors?
With respect to these attributes, this survey-based ranking from the Princeton Review may offer you ideas for colleges to research further:
Best Colleges for Classroom Experience | The Princeton Review https://share.google/2SWiZ1VfaySVUTwUV
LOL !
The Princeton Review is worse than Niche.
Alex, I'll take what someone says who's school ranks low in Princeton Review for $500. lol
Anonymous
10/07/2025 07:38
Subject: Rankings factors which are irrelevant to undergraduate experience
Anonymous wrote:You might want to look at some of the “best value” college lists.
Yep. The most important. ROI is how most successful people evaluate most decisions in their lives especially when it comes to jobs, finances and money.
https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=top-50-best-value-colleges-public-schools
https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=top-50-best-value-colleges-private-schools