Make sure your DC has real information, data from your schools results etc and thinks about the pros and cons but they should make the decision

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Anonymous wrote:Im urging kid to ed somewhere but they dont want to--1550/5s in all aps done so far spanish/calcBC/compA/history, 4 in freshman year ap. 4,0 UW, public. IB candidate, no awards . strong leadership in school, no research, no arts/no hooks-wf
does a kid like this need to ED for best option and ED where? wants math/maybe engineering

ED to CMU, Rice or Chicago.

Pressuring a kid to ED is insane. Absolutely not.

DP. Why do you think it’s insane? I agree with PP. It only takes ONE standout kid from a school to have many others rejected. And if it’s a feeder school or there are multiple stabdout kids, AOs will compare and OP’s kid will come up short.

I am helping a kid 1550, one B, ECs focused on research, some minor leadership. I KNOW what gets kids into these elite schools (my kid’s most unusual was accepted to multiple HYpSM)….this kid does not have it. Has come up short everywhere. Sometimes I think he might be self-sabotaging. His team won some obscure award and the parents think that’s what is going to get him into HYPSM. He cannot explain anything to me — his research or the stuff that his team did to win this award, clearly showing me he had nothing much to do with either. I ask him to revise his essays and he spends 10 minutes a week doing that. I spend hours providing feedback. If he is not self-sabotaging, he is really arrogant and overconfident of his chances. My kid should ED as he is full pay.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear stories like this every year - a kid who could had the stats for UVA/Michigan/UMD/UNC etc. who decides to use their ED on an Ivy/MIT/Duke whatever and then ends up getting WL at their ED and at the top state flagships and going somewhere ranked in the 50's or 60's. Would have been better off using ED at the state flagship.

I’m not sure I understand. Not all state flagships offer ED. Michigan is just starting it this year.

In the past there wasn't a big difference between ED and EA for UVA.

Depends on if you are in-state or OOS. Big difference for OOS. Last year was 21% acceptance ED and only 13% EA.

Whoa

OP, I would pressure him to EA as many places as he possibly can. I would not make him ED somewhere if he is not sure.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im urging kid to ed somewhere but they dont want to--1550/5s in all aps done so far spanish/calcBC/compA/history, 4 in freshman year ap. 4,0 UW, public. IB candidate, no awards . strong leadership in school, no research, no arts/no hooks-wf
does a kid like this need to ED for best option and ED where? wants math/maybe engineering

ED to CMU, Rice or Chicago.

Pressuring a kid to ED is insane. Absolutely not.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear stories like this every year - a kid who could had the stats for UVA/Michigan/UMD/UNC etc. who decides to use their ED on an Ivy/MIT/Duke whatever and then ends up getting WL at their ED and at the top state flagships and going somewhere ranked in the 50's or 60's. Would have been better off using ED at the state flagship.

I’m not sure I understand. Not all state flagships offer ED. Michigan is just starting it this year.

In the past there wasn't a big difference between ED and EA for UVA.

Depends on if you are in-state or OOS. Big difference for OOS. Last year was 21% acceptance ED and only 13% EA.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear stories like this every year - a kid who could had the stats for UVA/Michigan/UMD/UNC etc. who decides to use their ED on an Ivy/MIT/Duke whatever and then ends up getting WL at their ED and at the top state flagships and going somewhere ranked in the 50's or 60's. Would have been better off using ED at the state flagship.

I’m not sure I understand. Not all state flagships offer ED. Michigan is just starting it this year.

In the past there wasn't a big difference between ED and EA for UVA.