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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts, other than that the whole thing is vaguely depressing.

My understanding is that many of these young ladies view college as more of a social, getting a MRS degree experience than as an educational experience.

Many universities have Greek systems that demand resumes which show academic achievement in addition to community service and the sororities are serious about overall academic GPA for their house.

I was in a sorority at a big Greek SEC school. Our sororities always had much higher academic scores than the rest of the school. We were counseled if our GPA went below 3.5 and you got kicked out if it went below 3.0. Below 3.5 there was mandatory tutoring and you’d miss out on socials.

Yes, but with all due respect, what was the major of 99% of these women? Not a lot of premeds and engineers in the bunch, in my experience.

Lots of premeds and prelaw and preMBA at mine.
Not many engineers back in the 90s.

Lots of the same at my SEC school. I’m a lawyer as are many of my sorority sisters. I can also think of quite a few in healthcare (doctors, PAs, nurses with advanced degrees). My school has a solid engineering program so plenty of those as well.

Everyone should stop getting their info from Legally Blonde. These sororities are massive and have a big mix of majors.

And, to be fair, lots of elementary education and “communications” majors as well. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

I was in a sorority at Florida. There were many pre-med, engineering, and law students, as well as a significant number pursuing PharmD degrees (one of the most popular majors). Business and economics were also common majors among my sisters.

Sisters tutored each other through hard classes. There was mandatory tutoring for members who were struggling or had low GPAs, though I’m not entirely sure what that involved. Overall, the sorority was made up of driven, Type A, high-achieving women. That said, I know sororities are different at every school, but getting into UF was already tough, so it’s not like anyone started off lacking brains.

What? Were we at the same university?

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Anonymous wrote:I also was in a sorority at a top 10 private school. I loved it. All of it. I am now a biglaw partner.

Don’t make women have to choose. Don’t make assumptions. Don’t pigeon hole them.

Agreed. True feminism is supporting women in all of their choices. I loved my sorority years. I still remember what I wore for rush every single day. My parents were pretty wealthy but I purchased it all myself from my summer internship money.

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T10 school here, too. I was straight up middle class - first in my family to go away to college - and had no clue about Greek life when I got there. Entered rush with an open mind, and wound up in a sorority with really nice women, some of whom have become life-long friends.

No hazing (quite the opposite - the older girls were incredibly kind) and a good bit of diversity, in terms of race, economic background, and interest in drinking/partying. We did not live together (no house) and there was no pressure to conform to a type.

I know that sorority life looks, costs, and feels different at different schools. I’m encouraging DD to keep an open mind. Maybe the version at her school will be a good fit, maybe it won’t.

To state the obvious: Greek life at Bama is not indicative of Greek like at all colleges.

It just goes to show: America loves money, cocaine and smoking hot sorority girls.

And you won't find any of those at Bryn Mawr.

Anonymous wrote:Don't assume that these $5-10K outfits actually cost that much. Many, many of these women will buy dupes. It's almost expected. Including the jewelry. Not to say it isn't all a bit crazy, but sometimes not quite THAT crazy.

+100

It's so funny to me that people don't know this. Props to the girls who actually say "amazon" when pointing to their Love bangle.

Anonymous wrote:We are Making America Dumb Again!

Sororities are in COLLEGES. By default, even if you are majoring in (gasp!) childhood education or marketing (and how dare you all besmirch our future teachers!), you are getting a college degree. It's the opposite of making America (and women) dumb.

If sororities are helping future generations of women want to go to college, let's support them!

The article was very poorly researched. I wouldn't even consider it journalism, the author clearly just scrolled through a bunch of social media and made conclusions.

There was no mention of the Devine nine, or how diverse sororities are at....wait for it...more diverse colleges in the south.

No follow up interviews with post-grad sorority women, no stats on their careers/grad school matriculation/GPAs.

I've read the Atlantic for years and I'm genuinely disappointed with the clitbait garbage they are generating these days.

Don't assume that these $5-10K outfits actually cost that much. Many, many of these women will buy dupes. It's almost expected. Including the jewelry. Not to say it isn't all a bit crazy, but sometimes not quite THAT crazy.

Great place for “high achieving”women in the south to find husbands….

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts, other than that the whole thing is vaguely depressing.

My understanding is that many of these young ladies view college as more of a social, getting a MRS degree experience than as an educational experience.

Many universities have Greek systems that demand resumes which show academic achievement in addition to community service and the sororities are serious about overall academic GPA for their house.

I was in a sorority at a big Greek SEC school. Our sororities always had much higher academic scores than the rest of the school. We were counseled if our GPA went below 3.5 and you got kicked out if it went below 3.0. Below 3.5 there was mandatory tutoring and you’d miss out on socials.

Yes, but with all due respect, what was the major of 99% of these women? Not a lot of premeds and engineers in the bunch, in my experience.

Lots of premeds and prelaw and preMBA at mine.
Not many engineers back in the 90s.

Lots of the same at my SEC school. I’m a lawyer as are many of my sorority sisters. I can also think of quite a few in healthcare (doctors, PAs, nurses with advanced degrees). My school has a solid engineering program so plenty of those as well.

Everyone should stop getting their info from Legally Blonde. These sororities are massive and have a big mix of majors.

And, to be fair, lots of elementary education and “communications” majors as well. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

I was in a sorority at Florida. There were many pre-med, engineering, and law students, as well as a significant number pursuing PharmD degrees (one of the most popular majors). Business and economics were also common majors among my sisters.

Sisters tutored each other through hard classes. There was mandatory tutoring for members who were struggling or had low GPAs, though I’m not entirely sure what that involved. Overall, the sorority was made up of driven, Type A, high-achieving women. That said, I know sororities are different at every school, but getting into UF was already tough, so it’s not like anyone started off lacking brains.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts, other than that the whole thing is vaguely depressing.

My understanding is that many of these young ladies view college as more of a social, getting a MRS degree experience than as an educational experience.

Many universities have Greek systems that demand resumes which show academic achievement in addition to community service and the sororities are serious about overall academic GPA for their house.

I was in a sorority at a big Greek SEC school. Our sororities always had much higher academic scores than the rest of the school. We were counseled if our GPA went below 3.5 and you got kicked out if it went below 3.0. Below 3.5 there was mandatory tutoring and you’d miss out on socials.

Yes, but with all due respect, what was the major of 99% of these women? Not a lot of premeds and engineers in the bunch, in my experience.

Lots of premeds and prelaw and preMBA at mine.
Not many engineers back in the 90s.

Lots of the same at my SEC school. I’m a lawyer as are many of my sorority sisters. I can also think of quite a few in healthcare (doctors, PAs, nurses with advanced degrees). My school has a solid engineering program so plenty of those as well.

Everyone should stop getting their info from Legally Blonde. These sororities are massive and have a big mix of majors.

Same at my BIG10.
A lot of lawyers (me too!)

Did you spend $$$$ for OOTD (outfit of the day)?

I don't even know what that is.
No. We did not.

NP. I did! 2008 I remember I had a new Lilly Pulitzer dress every day. Plus I was tanned, had my nails done, highlights in my hair, and had toned up in the gym all summer. I had a new Louis Vuitton bag. I'd also gone to an etiquette class to work on conversations (this actually has been very helpful for my entire life) and had letters of recommendation to my favorite sororities.

I spent a crazy amount of money on clothes that summer. Plus I had a white dress for rituals and I had a black dress too (I don't remember what that was for).

We are Making America Dumb Again!

My daughter is in a sorority at UVA. I was a first gen student, and we are URM family. I had no way to guide / mentor her through the process. She did not spend absurd amounts of money for rush outfits. Currently, she lives in the house, and expenses are lower than last year, when she lived in an off campus apartment. Older “sisters” are mentoring her through the internship application process. So far, it has been a great experience for her.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts, other than that the whole thing is vaguely depressing.

My understanding is that many of these young ladies view college as more of a social, getting a MRS degree experience than as an educational experience.

Many universities have Greek systems that demand resumes which show academic achievement in addition to community service and the sororities are serious about overall academic GPA for their house.

I was in a sorority at a big Greek SEC school. Our sororities always had much higher academic scores than the rest of the school. We were counseled if our GPA went below 3.5 and you got kicked out if it went below 3.0. Below 3.5 there was mandatory tutoring and you’d miss out on socials.

Yes, but with all due respect, what was the major of 99% of these women? Not a lot of premeds and engineers in the bunch, in my experience.

Lots of premeds and prelaw and preMBA at mine.
Not many engineers back in the 90s.

Lots of the same at my SEC school. I’m a lawyer as are many of my sorority sisters. I can also think of quite a few in healthcare (doctors, PAs, nurses with advanced degrees). My school has a solid engineering program so plenty of those as well.

Everyone should stop getting their info from Legally Blonde. These sororities are massive and have a big mix of majors.

Same at my BIG10.
A lot of lawyers (me too!)

Did you spend $$$$ for OOTD (outfit of the day)?

I don't even know what that is.
No. We did not.

Anonymous wrote:To answer OP's question, if their family isn't paying, then they could be raising the funds through sugaring arrangements. Very popular among college women.

How many times have you posted this on DCUM recently and how many Lifetime movies have you watched?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts, other than that the whole thing is vaguely depressing.

My understanding is that many of these young ladies view college as more of a social, getting a MRS degree experience than as an educational experience.

Many universities have Greek systems that demand resumes which show academic achievement in addition to community service and the sororities are serious about overall academic GPA for their house.

I was in a sorority at a big Greek SEC school. Our sororities always had much higher academic scores than the rest of the school. We were counseled if our GPA went below 3.5 and you got kicked out if it went below 3.0. Below 3.5 there was mandatory tutoring and you’d miss out on socials.

Yes, but with all due respect, what was the major of 99% of these women? Not a lot of premeds and engineers in the bunch, in my experience.

Lots of premeds and prelaw and preMBA at mine.
Not many engineers back in the 90s.

Lots of the same at my SEC school. I’m a lawyer as are many of my sorority sisters. I can also think of quite a few in healthcare (doctors, PAs, nurses with advanced degrees). My school has a solid engineering program so plenty of those as well.

Everyone should stop getting their info from Legally Blonde. These sororities are massive and have a big mix of majors.

Same at my BIG10.
A lot of lawyers (me too!)

Did you spend $$$$ for OOTD (outfit of the day)?