Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 07:42     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
I don’t agree with defunding USAID, but plenty of Americans can’t afford the healthcare they need.

We can help both.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 05:18     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
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Anonymous wrote:Hey, good news everyone. Did you know that you can donate to non profits that provide medical care to poor people in developing countries? I just found out. Before now, I thought it could only be done with my tax dollars, and distributed in a manipulative way that advanced U.S. foreign policy.

Anyway, now that I know this, I guess I can still help people who are less fortunate than I am.


There are plenty of non profits helping in poor countries but they will never make up for the cut in US funding. Also, the US had pretty good leverage in those countries, far more than the non profits. Good work is being done by groups such as Save the Children but they can only do so much. Finally, a lot of non profits had funding from USAID but now that money is gone.


Surely all the good liberals in this country will put their money where their mouth is and write checks. No? Only if the IRS demands? Hmmm.

To quote Bernie Sanders regarding his abysmal rate of charitable giving "We do what we do."


It's not the job of one side to support soft power. Both sides should take responsibility but the billionaire Musk and his sidekick Yawny Donny did not want to do that.

Every day, around 1,000 babies die from AIDS due to US AID cuts. So, you win. You get a cookie of death.



It is not the responsibility of the U.S. to stop babies from dying due to a disease that easily stopped with basic sexual education. That needs to happen at a level that the U.S. has not, and can never change. That needs to happen culturally in those countries.

Stop throwing good money after bad.


Get off your high horse, get on a plane and fly to a country like Tanzania and skip the safari. Basic sexual education? Are you serious? The majority of the children never get any basic medical care even at birth, let alone an education, and they live in mud huts with no clean water. Birth disabilities are a huge issue and they have nothing to due with AIDS. I wasn't a fan of George W. Bush but his creation of the PEPFAR program and how that program has saved millions of lives will be an enormous part of his legacy.



Also a large number of men tend to do what they want with women and girls. Women/girls don’t get to say no, especially if they’re child brides. Women still have a long way to go for equal rights.


Sadly, I agree. I'm a PP and in impoverished countries the men often abandon their wives when a child is born with a disability. Some believe the devil is involved or the child isn't theirs.



It happens in the U.S. too. Although it’s not because the devil is involved but because it’s too hard.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 03:51     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
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Anonymous wrote:USAID was soft power, and gave us a way to influence foreign policy, in our own interest. It helped keep the US at the negotiation table, and now it's just China and Russia. We just walked away from key relations with foreign governments that took years to build. It is heartbreaking that people in these countries relied on our leadership, especially in human rights and democracy. And we just walked away.

+1
It gave us multiple angles for soft power via winning people over, managing some aspects of what was in education, etc. It also kept many horrible diseases at bay. Something I think lots of these maga done grasp is that it was in essence a handout to farmers in the US without being a direct handout.


What did our soft power in Africa get us? Be specific, because China bought the mineral rights.


A doubling of its population in the last thirty years, from approximately 750 million in 1995 to 1.5 billion today.


Giving people medical care without improving their ability to feed themselves while meaningful to the individuals is really just kicking the can down the road and possibly exacerbating the problem as the population keeps growing and their ability to prosper collectively shrinks.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 03:09     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
Anonymous wrote:Oh here we go:

Them: We should focus on care in the US and not spending it all over the place.

Us: OK! Let's have universal health care and free school lunch!

Them: That's socialism!

OP, like a PP said, there are people who do not care about others. You can't fix them.


This.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 02:15     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey, good news everyone. Did you know that you can donate to non profits that provide medical care to poor people in developing countries? I just found out. Before now, I thought it could only be done with my tax dollars, and distributed in a manipulative way that advanced U.S. foreign policy.

Anyway, now that I know this, I guess I can still help people who are less fortunate than I am.


There are plenty of non profits helping in poor countries but they will never make up for the cut in US funding. Also, the US had pretty good leverage in those countries, far more than the non profits. Good work is being done by groups such as Save the Children but they can only do so much. Finally, a lot of non profits had funding from USAID but now that money is gone.


Surely all the good liberals in this country will put their money where their mouth is and write checks. No? Only if the IRS demands? Hmmm.

To quote Bernie Sanders regarding his abysmal rate of charitable giving "We do what we do."


This doesn't make sense. Liberals would probably need to divert funds from other nonprofits to fill the gap of USAID since most aren't rich.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 23:30     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
Anonymous wrote:Clean up the mess at home. Enough homeless and drug addicted people in the US who need help, you don’t need to spend your $$$

Who was it in the Trump Administration who recently said about the homeless in DC that if they refuse our help we should just put them in mail. And the idiot on Fox who said they should just be injected with something and put to death. Not their exact words but close.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 22:42     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
Anonymous wrote:Clean up the mess at home. Enough homeless and drug addicted people in the US who need help, you don’t need to spend your $$$ in Africa.

The Trump administration will not be giving these people more help.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 21:29     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Hey, good news everyone. Did you know that you can donate to non profits that provide medical care to poor people in developing countries? I just found out. Before now, I thought it could only be done with my tax dollars, and distributed in a manipulative way that advanced U.S. foreign policy.

Anyway, now that I know this, I guess I can still help people who are less fortunate than I am.


There are plenty of non profits helping in poor countries but they will never make up for the cut in US funding. Also, the US had pretty good leverage in those countries, far more than the non profits. Good work is being done by groups such as Save the Children but they can only do so much. Finally, a lot of non profits had funding from USAID but now that money is gone.


Surely all the good liberals in this country will put their money where their mouth is and write checks. No? Only if the IRS demands? Hmmm.

To quote Bernie Sanders regarding his abysmal rate of charitable giving "We do what we do."


It's not the job of one side to support soft power. Both sides should take responsibility but the billionaire Musk and his sidekick Yawny Donny did not want to do that.

Every day, around 1,000 babies die from AIDS due to US AID cuts. So, you win. You get a cookie of death.



It is not the responsibility of the U.S. to stop babies from dying due to a disease that easily stopped with basic sexual education. That needs to happen at a level that the U.S. has not, and can never change. That needs to happen culturally in those countries.

Stop throwing good money after bad.


Many of these women (actually girls) get hiv when they are raped. But I guess that makes their babies dying ok?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 20:45     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
Clean up the mess at home. Enough homeless and drug addicted people in the US who need help, you don’t need to spend your $$$ in Africa.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 20:42     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey, good news everyone. Did you know that you can donate to non profits that provide medical care to poor people in developing countries? I just found out. Before now, I thought it could only be done with my tax dollars, and distributed in a manipulative way that advanced U.S. foreign policy.

Anyway, now that I know this, I guess I can still help people who are less fortunate than I am.


There are plenty of non profits helping in poor countries but they will never make up for the cut in US funding. Also, the US had pretty good leverage in those countries, far more than the non profits. Good work is being done by groups such as Save the Children but they can only do so much. Finally, a lot of non profits had funding from USAID but now that money is gone.


Surely all the good liberals in this country will put their money where their mouth is and write checks. No? Only if the IRS demands? Hmmm.

To quote Bernie Sanders regarding his abysmal rate of charitable giving "We do what we do."


It's not the job of one side to support soft power. Both sides should take responsibility but the billionaire Musk and his sidekick Yawny Donny did not want to do that.

Every day, around 1,000 babies die from AIDS due to US AID cuts. So, you win. You get a cookie of death.



It is not the responsibility of the U.S. to stop babies from dying due to a disease that easily stopped with basic sexual education. That needs to happen at a level that the U.S. has not, and can never change. That needs to happen culturally in those countries.

Stop throwing good money after bad.


Get off your high horse, get on a plane and fly to a country like Tanzania and skip the safari. Basic sexual education? Are you serious? The majority of the children never get any basic medical care even at birth, let alone an education, and they live in mud huts with no clean water. Birth disabilities are a huge issue and they have nothing to due with AIDS. I wasn't a fan of George W. Bush but his creation of the PEPFAR program and how that program has saved millions of lives will be an enormous part of his legacy.



Also a large number of men tend to do what they want with women and girls. Women/girls don’t get to say no, especially if they’re child brides. Women still have a long way to go for equal rights.


Sadly, I agree. I'm a PP and in impoverished countries the men often abandon their wives when a child is born with a disability. Some believe the devil is involved or the child isn't theirs.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 20:32     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey, good news everyone. Did you know that you can donate to non profits that provide medical care to poor people in developing countries? I just found out. Before now, I thought it could only be done with my tax dollars, and distributed in a manipulative way that advanced U.S. foreign policy.

Anyway, now that I know this, I guess I can still help people who are less fortunate than I am.


There are plenty of non profits helping in poor countries but they will never make up for the cut in US funding. Also, the US had pretty good leverage in those countries, far more than the non profits. Good work is being done by groups such as Save the Children but they can only do so much. Finally, a lot of non profits had funding from USAID but now that money is gone.


Surely all the good liberals in this country will put their money where their mouth is and write checks. No? Only if the IRS demands? Hmmm.

To quote Bernie Sanders regarding his abysmal rate of charitable giving "We do what we do."


It's not the job of one side to support soft power. Both sides should take responsibility but the billionaire Musk and his sidekick Yawny Donny did not want to do that.

Every day, around 1,000 babies die from AIDS due to US AID cuts. So, you win. You get a cookie of death.



It is not the responsibility of the U.S. to stop babies from dying due to a disease that easily stopped with basic sexual education. That needs to happen at a level that the U.S. has not, and can never change. That needs to happen culturally in those countries.

Stop throwing good money after bad.


Get off your high horse, get on a plane and fly to a country like Tanzania and skip the safari. Basic sexual education? Are you serious? The majority of the children never get any basic medical care even at birth, let alone an education, and they live in mud huts with no clean water. Birth disabilities are a huge issue and they have nothing to due with AIDS. I wasn't a fan of George W. Bush but his creation of the PEPFAR program and how that program has saved millions of lives will be an enormous part of his legacy.



Also a large number of men tend to do what they want with women and girls. Women/girls don’t get to say no, especially if they’re child brides. Women still have a long way to go for equal rights.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 20:31     Subject: Re:USAID funding - sad conversation
Anonymous wrote:The very same people who cut the funding to USAID also want to cut programs that help Americans, like Medicaid and Medicare. They do not plan to funnel the savings from USAID to domestic aid programs. We get nothing out of this.

Dismantling USAID has really hurt American farmers who produce wheat, rice, sorghum and peanuts. Our government bought their crops to feed people through USAID. That stopped overnight. The farmers lost trade relationships. The mills that processed crops lost business. The companies that sell farming equipment and supplies lost business. Americans are hurting because of this.

But you know who got tons of new government contracts? Elon Musk. Instead of spending money to save lives and buy us good will, we’re making Elon richer.


Your point about USAID being part of our crop program is spot on. Thank you.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 20:29     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
There are numerous audits each year of federal agencies to determine fraud (OIG and GAO). If there is fraud, it’s extremely low and rare.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 20:28     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey, good news everyone. Did you know that you can donate to non profits that provide medical care to poor people in developing countries? I just found out. Before now, I thought it could only be done with my tax dollars, and distributed in a manipulative way that advanced U.S. foreign policy.

Anyway, now that I know this, I guess I can still help people who are less fortunate than I am.


There are plenty of non profits helping in poor countries but they will never make up for the cut in US funding. Also, the US had pretty good leverage in those countries, far more than the non profits. Good work is being done by groups such as Save the Children but they can only do so much. Finally, a lot of non profits had funding from USAID but now that money is gone.


Surely all the good liberals in this country will put their money where their mouth is and write checks. No? Only if the IRS demands? Hmmm.

To quote Bernie Sanders regarding his abysmal rate of charitable giving "We do what we do."


It's not the job of one side to support soft power. Both sides should take responsibility but the billionaire Musk and his sidekick Yawny Donny did not want to do that.

Every day, around 1,000 babies die from AIDS due to US AID cuts. So, you win. You get a cookie of death.



It is not the responsibility of the U.S. to stop babies from dying due to a disease that easily stopped with basic sexual education. That needs to happen at a level that the U.S. has not, and can never change. That needs to happen culturally in those countries.

Stop throwing good money after bad.


Get off your high horse, get on a plane and fly to a country like Tanzania and skip the safari. Basic sexual education? Are you serious? The majority of the children never get any basic medical care even at birth, let alone an education, and they live in mud huts with no clean water. Birth disabilities are a huge issue and they have nothing to due with AIDS. I wasn't a fan of George W. Bush but his creation of the PEPFAR program and how that program has saved millions of lives will be an enormous part of his legacy.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2025 20:28     Subject: USAID funding - sad conversation
People on the Trump train aren't able to change their viewpoint and oppose Trump on any issue because if they do they realize the house of cards they've built starts to come down really quickly.

Being MAGA isn't about facts. It's about feelings.