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Anonymous wrote:And certain Catholic schools are oh-so tolerant of pro-choice families or LGBT students?

That’s why ideology diversity would be good.

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Anonymous wrote:By design co-ed schools try to have gender parity which is good. Now, my question is if they should continue to have some race targets. What I see is that in private schools they want to accept racially diverse students, but income wise very homegenous families. It is ok to keep this approach? Is it fair? Just basic questions since dc is so diverse and there are so many schools, not sure schools really need affirmative action. Moreover many times the non-white recruitment is highly discrecional. For some schools mean admitting more African Americans and for others more Asians. But is not clear that this is a fair or inclusive system at all since the admissions are highly dependent on the income of the parents.

Sorry, but we’re a full pay black family and have been in private schools since K for both children and it doesn’t matter how dedicated a school was to diversity, progressive or conservative, we have never NOT been one of only a few black families in our grade. Usually I’ve seen maximum 3-5 black kids per grade (if lucky). A couple of Asians, a few Indians here and there .. but the schools are always predominantly white. It never even close. At the mid/lower tier privates there is more diversity, but at the top schools.. forget about it.

All that to say, “should schools do away with diversity initiatives?” Implies that these diversity initiatives are actually making the schools diverse. I’m sorry they aren’t. When you’re touring schools, take the time to count the number of non-white students to white. DEI initiatives have been a thing for decades and still my daughter is one of only 5 black kids in her grade. The real question is, why aren’t there top elite black Private schools? No black boarding schools? College prep super exclusive schools with predominantly Indian kids?

Anonymous wrote:And certain Catholic schools are oh-so tolerant of pro-choice families or LGBT students?

Anonymous wrote:So how would you propose that schools create a student body with so-called "real diversity" that includes ideology?

Anonymous wrote:Keep elite institutions elite with a sprinkling of high upside charity cases.

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Anonymous wrote:If schools should be race blind, why not be gender blind too? I suspect people will chime in on why these are completely different concepts, when the reality is that having gender blind admissions would disadvantage those posters, so they are against it.

For the record, I would be fine with removing race targets because I think it falsely reassures people that they are in a “diverse” setting when those settings are socioeconomically and ideologically / values-wise not at all diverse. I think it’s fine if people want to be around people pretty much just like them (do what you want with your money and privilege!) but it does annoy me that they pretend to care so much about diversity etc. The vast majority of parents care only about what’s best for their kid, without regard to others/society. I don’t think that’s the case in all countries but it is the case in the US. It’s unfortunate but it is what it is.

Are you seriously suggesting that the application process should include questions about ideology?

No, I don't see how you inferred that based on my mention of ideology. I said that meaningful diversity is not possible in private schools and I think people should be honest about this, rather than telling themselves (and others) that their kids' private schools are diverse.

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Anonymous wrote:If schools should be race blind, why not be gender blind too? I suspect people will chime in on why these are completely different concepts, when the reality is that having gender blind admissions would disadvantage those posters, so they are against it.

For the record, I would be fine with removing race targets because I think it falsely reassures people that they are in a “diverse” setting when those settings are socioeconomically and ideologically / values-wise not at all diverse. I think it’s fine if people want to be around people pretty much just like them (do what you want with your money and privilege!) but it does annoy me that they pretend to care so much about diversity etc. The vast majority of parents care only about what’s best for their kid, without regard to others/society. I don’t think that’s the case in all countries but it is the case in the US. It’s unfortunate but it is what it is.

Are you seriously suggesting that the application process should include questions about ideology?

Anonymous wrote:If schools should be race blind, why not be gender blind too? I suspect people will chime in on why these are completely different concepts, when the reality is that having gender blind admissions would disadvantage those posters, so they are against it.

For the record, I would be fine with removing race targets because I think it falsely reassures people that they are in a “diverse” setting when those settings are socioeconomically and ideologically / values-wise not at all diverse. I think it’s fine if people want to be around people pretty much just like them (do what you want with your money and privilege!) but it does annoy me that they pretend to care so much about diversity etc. The vast majority of parents care only about what’s best for their kid, without regard to others/society. I don’t think that’s the case in all countries but it is the case in the US. It’s unfortunate but it is what it is.