Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 16:24     Subject: All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
Anonymous wrote:DH here: I’ve been lifting for about seven years now, and have certainly put on a bunch of muscle; I try not to skip leg day though. (No TRT, I’m natty. lol) Assuming this is an honest question, I will say that I feel vastly better than I did before lifting, way better than when I was just doing a bunch of cardio. I get that we hate the Rivian bros, but is it so hard to imagine that being strong feels way better than not? This explains most of it in my opinion.

NP but I think the OP is referring to something beyond what you're doing. It's peacocking and vanity, showing off, like RFK Jr and Hegseth 's push-ups. It's a certain aesthetic which is showing off big guns and how jacked you are. Maybe they feel better, maybe they don't. It's about taking supplements and drugs to get there.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 16:22     Subject: Re:All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
I think lifting is easier to maintain an addiction to or be integral to your daily routine than cardio. With intense cardio you get tired, if you are tired it sucks, you will get some sort of overuse injury, weather can play into it, or it just gets boring to be on the treadmill an hour a day.

Lifting , heavy lifting, you spend 90% of time chilling listening to music between reps to recover. My 18 year old has been lifting for 4 years and is extremely muscular because of it.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 16:15     Subject: All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
Anonymous wrote:Yes OP. Totally know what you're talking about. Cold plunge, red light therapy, zone 2 or 5 from Attic, protein protein protein, circadian rhythm stuff from Huberman, oura rings, sleep mattresses etc!


+1 to all of this. And worse, they are telling everyone like they are some sort of expert!
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 16:10     Subject: All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are describing a certain echelon of rich men. Not UMC.


You might be right. Although I have observed and know personally more than a few 1-3%ers who try to emulate the SV rich.


1%-3% is rich.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 15:01     Subject: All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
Anonymous wrote:My exH got into sleep maxxing and apparently according to the kids goes to bed at 9pm every night now. He also has a $5k ice plunge tub, and wears a red light head lamp thing to regrow his bald spot.


I go to bed at 9 most nights, as soon as the kids are in bed. I've always been an early-to-bed/early-to-wake person.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 14:51     Subject: All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
My exH got into sleep maxxing and apparently according to the kids goes to bed at 9pm every night now. He also has a $5k ice plunge tub, and wears a red light head lamp thing to regrow his bald spot.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 14:39     Subject: All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly any men are actually jacked anymore or ever were.

Don't confuse a little muscle under a lot of fat with being solid muscle.


OP here. I know what I am looking at and I stand by what I said. It’s a very specific Rivian - Lucid demographic. The decile who can afford to finance a dedicated cold plunge pool and pay for a Prenuvo

Not “any men” I pass in AutoZone


I don't even understand what you said here. Get better company.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 14:38     Subject: All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
*zone 2 or 5 from Attia
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 14:37     Subject: All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
Yes OP. Totally know what you're talking about. Cold plunge, red light therapy, zone 2 or 5 from Attic, protein protein protein, circadian rhythm stuff from Huberman, oura rings, sleep mattresses etc!
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 14:36     Subject: All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardly any men are actually jacked anymore or ever were.

Don't confuse a little muscle under a lot of fat with being solid muscle.


OP here. I know what I am looking at and I stand by what I said. It’s a very specific Rivian - Lucid demographic. The decile who can afford to finance a dedicated cold plunge pool and pay for a Prenuvo

Not “any men” I pass in AutoZone


The new face of Lucid is Timothee Chalamet, who is exactly the opposite of what you’re talking about.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 14:35     Subject: Re:All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
My DH has always been "jacked" since his college days playing football followed by a few years as a USMC officer. People only notice it now in the business casual era because he's wearing polo shirts to work instead of dress shirts and blazers. He lifts and plays sports for fun, but not for the look. We are definitely UMC as he's a Sr Exec at a FAANG
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 14:29     Subject: All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You must live in a weird circle. I'm a lawyer, I spend a lot of time around lawyers, I really don't know anyone like that. Like lots of people do running but supplements and focusing on getting jacked, no.


Are you in NWDC, Bethesda or Chevy Chase?


NP - I'm in Bethesda and several of the dads are very into macros, cold plunges, saunas, sometimes extreme diets or at least ones that require a lot of precision or special ordering, working out with trainers. Haven't noticed the chicken legs thing but lots of folks trying to optimize health.

And yes, these are law firm partners, execs, etc.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 13:42     Subject: Re:All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
Anonymous wrote:DH is very fit but not bulked up. He’s 6ft tall and around 180lbs. He’s in the gym multiple times a week but he also rotates in yoga, jiu jitsu and different types of runs. If you saw him in shorts and a t-shirt you’d know he’s in good shape but he appears average, unless he takes his shirt off. You can see all the muscles in his torso. He lifts for strength, not appearance or bulk. His workouts specifically revolve around maintaining a heart rate below 140bpm at levels high exertion.


He's not UMC.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 13:29     Subject: Re:All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
DH is very fit but not bulked up. He’s 6ft tall and around 180lbs. He’s in the gym multiple times a week but he also rotates in yoga, jiu jitsu and different types of runs. If you saw him in shorts and a t-shirt you’d know he’s in good shape but he appears average, unless he takes his shirt off. You can see all the muscles in his torso. He lifts for strength, not appearance or bulk. His workouts specifically revolve around maintaining a heart rate below 140bpm at levels high exertion.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2025 08:40     Subject: Re:All UMC men are now jacked, (probably) injecting testosterone off-label, and obsessive about longevity hacks. Right?
Anonymous wrote:Everyone is very excited about the prospect of living forever. Interestingly, in the 1920's, there was the exact same enthusiasm and optimism about living forever. I think it has to do with a certain portion of society who is living the Roaring Twenties and expects that to go on indefinitely.


Til you are found drowned in your (plunge) pool