Anonymous wrote:Wellesley the only one I would consider (considering my grandmother and spouse are both alums), historically the most elite.
However, these institutions have changed quite a bit in recent years and are now increasingly dominated by foreign students, FGLI cases, and crazed liberal LGBTQ+ or race grievance types. They simply don't draw from the same social strata they used to.
The traditional rule for Harvard men was "Lesley to bed, Wellesley to wed, and Radcliffe to talk to." Wellesley and the other 7 sisters used to educate the most intelligent, accomplished and desirable women in America. After many decades of the ravages of co-education and liberalism, that is no longer the case.
Probably best to pass them up and look into SEC schools with a strong sorority scene.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The naïveté here about what all women’s schools were all about — and what initially made them great — is astounding.
This. To spell it out for the ingenues:
1) The Seven Sisters built their reputation in a time when women had few other educational options and women's colleges were the only game in town.
2) With the rise of widespread co-education since the late 1960s, there is little reason for top women students to go to women's colleges any more (also see: HBCUs).
3) Social life at the women's colleges was much more normal and active when the Ivies and top liberal arts colleges were all male- since the Seven Sisters were the main place for Ivy Leaguers to find socially compatible dates (e.g. George H.W. Bush - Yale - and Barbara Bush - Smith).
4) Now that women can directly attend all the top (formerly male) institutions, the women's colleges have slid into irrelevance as a forum for elite social interaction and assortative mating.
5) Virtually all of the great women's colleges have slid into mediocrity and irrelevance since the 1970s. Wellesley is/was the best of them, but even it is struggling with the point of its continued existence.
Anonymous wrote:This thread just confirmed iykyk. I went to Wellesley in the 2000s and happy with my life - there's nothing I can do about the choice I made when I was 17. As a smart but clueless minority girl, Wellesley helped me gain confidence and that was what I needed at that time. I don't know if I would have received that at a big state school, but maybe it would have been the same at another liberal arts school. Not having men around does make things simpler, less drama, but not everyone wants that. My friends and I had a social life attending parties at nearby schools and made good friends at various campuses around Boston. I met my husband in law school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: I went to Wellesley and loved it but it was not any cheaper than any other school of its quality!
This.
I went to Bryn Mawr, but it’s nearly $70k in tuition now. I’m not sure how an all-women’s college makes any financial difference.
If single sex is a good fit for your daughter, all the all-women’s colleges I can think of provide an excellent education, however.
Went on a tour at Bryn-Mawr and they now dance around the language. It’s no longer single-sex.
It is open to all students who identify as women.
So essentially it’s now co-ed.
Unless you are male who thinks you are a male/man—then they are pretty clear that it’s not the school for you. It’s less clear whether you can also go there if you are a trans man though.
The people who work there or teach there or send their kid to that school pride themselves on being progressive. So it’s an odd thing to watch them try to hang onto the all-women label while trying hard not to offend biological men.
Anonymous wrote:
The naïveté here about what all women’s schools were all about — and what initially made them great — is astounding.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: I went to Wellesley and loved it but it was not any cheaper than any other school of its quality!
This.
I went to Bryn Mawr, but it’s nearly $70k in tuition now. I’m not sure how an all-women’s college makes any financial difference.
If single sex is a good fit for your daughter, all the all-women’s colleges I can think of provide an excellent education, however.