Anonymous wrote:OP — well said. Seems like nobody in my neighborhood actually WORKS. They schedule 5:00 sports practices, are happy with all the damn half days at FCPS, my kids’ camp was filled with parents every Friday at 2:00 for the weekly show, etc.

When I was growing up, people actually worked 9-5:30. Nobody would DARE schedule practices at 5 freakin o’clock on a weekday.

And RTO is a joke. Of anything, people are going into the office LESS than before 1/20!!

I’m in the private sector and am 100% remote. In theory, if I start work at 7:30am, I could make a 5pm practice if everything goes perfectly. But that’s a rude time for a week day.

Anonymous wrote:OP — well said. Seems like nobody in my neighborhood actually WORKS. They schedule 5:00 sports practices, are happy with all the damn half days at FCPS, my kids’ camp was filled with parents every Friday at 2:00 for the weekly show, etc.

When I was growing up, people actually worked 9-5:30. Nobody would DARE schedule practices at 5 freakin o’clock on a weekday.

And RTO is a joke. Of anything, people are going into the office LESS than before 1/20!!

Actually when I grew kids up and when my kids were young stuff was only scheduled between 3pm and 5 pm usually during school year and play dates were weekdays during summer. My town growing up 100 percent of Moms worked so the nights and weekends were husband time. My town I raised my kids in was around 90 percent SAHMs first 10 years. We get once in a blue "working mom" who would ask why are not stuff at nights or weekends. Look I wanted to do home projects, spend time with family, go to beach, go visit my Mom or MIL who lived nearby, maybe go to church got out to dinner with family on weekends.

Today we are back to it as everyone home. I only go to office two days a week and with vacation and holidays it only averages 80 days a year at work. Less than 20 percent of days I go to office. A joke.

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Anonymous wrote:Both have been at their job for about 2 years. They regularly go out of town and take long weekends and vacations, and have probably taken 25+ days off this year alone. One complained how so much of his office was let go, and they're the only one left on their team (both private sector office jobs, although one is hybrid WFH). I genuinely don't understand it.

My friends (2 couples) regularly take long weekends and go on vacations quit often. They all have been at their jobs for many years and after COVID they have stayed working remotely.

So, yes, many times while they are away, they are "working". Husbands work in IT and wives work in private companies.

My other friend, also works remotely (private sector) and travels quiet often.

My husband works in the Government and has about 30 days vacation each year. We do 2 family vacations per year, one overseas for 2-3 weeks and then he takes long weekends to use the rest.
Sometimes, depending where we go, my husband works remotely so he has extra days off.

So, technically, they are not off, but working remotely! Right???

What happened to doge RTO???

Anonymous wrote:Both have been at their job for about 2 years. They regularly go out of town and take long weekends and vacations, and have probably taken 25+ days off this year alone. One complained how so much of his office was let go, and they're the only one left on their team (both private sector office jobs, although one is hybrid WFH). I genuinely don't understand it.

My friends (2 couples) regularly take long weekends and go on vacations quit often. They all have been at their jobs for many years and after COVID they have stayed working remotely.

So, yes, many times while they are away, they are "working". Husbands work in IT and wives work in private companies.

My other friend, also works remotely (private sector) and travels quiet often.

My husband works in the Government and has about 30 days vacation each year. We do 2 family vacations per year, one overseas for 2-3 weeks and then he takes long weekends to use the rest.
Sometimes, depending where we go, my husband works remotely so he has extra days off.

So, technically, they are not off, but working remotely! Right???

Anonymous wrote:OP — well said. Seems like nobody in my neighborhood actually WORKS. They schedule 5:00 sports practices, are happy with all the damn half days at FCPS, my kids’ camp was filled with parents every Friday at 2:00 for the weekly show, etc.

When I was growing up, people actually worked 9-5:30. Nobody would DARE schedule practices at 5 freakin o’clock on a weekday.

And RTO is a joke. Of anything, people are going into the office LESS than before 1/20!!

What does 1/20 have to do with private sector?

And when you were growing up, families had one SAH or flex parent to make it work, like families always have. My mom worked early or late shifts so she could be around after school. I do the same. Main difference now is that both parents are more likely to have flexibility, not only because of work-anywhere policies but because so many people are now gig workers / independent contractors.

OP — well said. Seems like nobody in my neighborhood actually WORKS. They schedule 5:00 sports practices, are happy with all the damn half days at FCPS, my kids’ camp was filled with parents every Friday at 2:00 for the weekly show, etc.

When I was growing up, people actually worked 9-5:30. Nobody would DARE schedule practices at 5 freakin o’clock on a weekday.

And RTO is a joke. Of anything, people are going into the office LESS than before 1/20!!

Anonymous wrote:Both have been at their job for about 2 years. They regularly go out of town and take long weekends and vacations, and have probably taken 25+ days off this year alone. One complained how so much of his office was let go, and they're the only one left on their team (both private sector office jobs, although one is hybrid WFH). I genuinely don't understand it.

Are you paying their bills? I assume you are not so myob

Anonymous wrote:Both have been at their job for about 2 years. They regularly go out of town and take long weekends and vacations, and have probably taken 25+ days off this year alone. One complained how so much of his office was let go, and they're the only one left on their team (both private sector office jobs, although one is hybrid WFH). I genuinely don't understand it.

I have unlimited PTO. Many employers in tech offer unlimited PTO these days.
I deliver my projects early and I take a couple of weeks off.

In addition to all of the above, a lot of companies offer modified work schedules (9/80 or 4-tens), or comp time. At my job, for example, you just need to log 80 hours in each payroll period. It doesn't matter when you work them. So it's not uncommon for people to take a day off but work extra hours the rest of the week, so they don't have to actually take any vacation leave.

Private industry is significantly more generous with leave now.

Sales generally is perform or die. People who do not make their sales quota ($/quarter) get laid off automatically. Someone who is good might work fewer hours, but they still have to deliver revenue to the company every quarter. And sales quotas never go down.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 25 vacation days as mid level. I wouldn’t be surprised if they get 30-35.

What company has 25-35 vacation days (or does that include sick days, ie PTO — though 35 is still unusual!)

Some European companies that I am familiar with give US employees the same amount of (holidays + vacation + sick) time off as they give their EU employees. They also sometimes are less generous about PTO carry-over and have a strict use-or-lose policy instead.

Anonymous wrote:My DH works around 12 hours a week, and makes close to $1m. All wfh. He just keeps the pieces in place with respect to teh people under him, and those underlings do all the work. It's a good gig. I make a bit more than home ($1.4m) but work 50+ hours a week and I am working every minute of that. I am pretty jealous of him.

My condolences to both you and your husband. This sounds so challenging.

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I work a 9/80 schedule so it might appear that I’m taking days off when I’m not. My workplace gives 15 days a year of PTO, which is combined vacation and sick leave. That 9/80 schedule keeps me sane.