I have GEHA. I recently called about something else but also inquired about Hopkins and rep did confirm that it’s now out of network.

Yes if you have GEHA then basically anything owned by Johns Hopkins (including Sibley and Suburban) is now out of network.

Everyone should get ready for Health Ins to be gutted.

Project 2025 explains what is going to happen.

All insurers will no longer insure preexisting conditions for example. Maternity coverage LOL the party that wants you birthing yearly won't be paying for that care.

United Health Care issues with John Hopkins is just the beginning of the end. If you think Congress will still make sure you have health insurance from your employer LOL you have not read the fine print from the Party of Pro death.

Would also like to know the GEHA question. Assuming yes

Anonymous wrote:Does this make them out of network for GEHA then too? It’s kind of annoying to have not heard a peep from them.

I'd like to know the answer to this too.

I have GEHA PPO, and my doctor wants me to have a procedure at Sibley. He is inquiring, but he didn't know the answer either.

Does this make them out of network for GEHA then too? It’s kind of annoying to have not heard a peep from them.

Notices sent today by Johns Hopkins stating that they have now ceased negotiations with United having failed to reach agreement. What a pain this is for so many people in our area.

Hopkins is dropping United Healthcare because of their frequent denials of care, not over rates. This is a systematic issue that UH will continue to do with other providers. I’d switch from them at all possible, and lobby your employer to offer another option, if they don’t already.

Anonymous wrote:I'll say this-- the immediate positive support for Luigi surprised and educated me. I hate health insurance, which might as well be termed "Denial of Care," but I had no idea there was so much anger out there. In normal times, a cold-blooded execution would not be applauded, but for many reasons....these are not normal times.

Luigi may go to prison but his brother Mario is at large, and he knows not to stop at McDonalds next time.

not at JHU systems, but over the past year I've gotten letters from United that my GYN is no longer in network and DC's pediatrician is also no longer in network.

none of my mental health therapists nor my PT are in network either.

i am excellent at filing for reimbursement and following up with United. while we are fortunate to have access and resources for a PPO plan, it makes me wonder-- at a certain point, what is the point of health insurance again?

I'll say this-- the immediate positive support for Luigi surprised and educated me. I hate health insurance, which might as well be termed "Denial of Care," but I had no idea there was so much anger out there. In normal times, a cold-blooded execution would not be applauded, but for many reasons....these are not normal times.

Is there anything we patients can do to urge them to reach an agreement?

Luigi did nothing wrong

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Anonymous wrote:UHC desperately trying to peddle a story where they are the good guys, but anyone who has had them and actually had a medical issue knows better.

Truly awful company. The worst of an already awful industry.

Yeah, the aggressive UHC PR push is falling flat. They probably pay out nicely for their executives' and flacks' medical care. The rest of us get denied and stonewalled.

LOL as if doctors aren’t wealthy AHs too

So you're admitting that health insurance flacks and execs get special health plans that regular people don't get.

And no, most doctors are neither wealthy nor AHs. But you know that.

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Anonymous wrote:UHC desperately trying to peddle a story where they are the good guys, but anyone who has had them and actually had a medical issue knows better.

Truly awful company. The worst of an already awful industry.

Yeah, the aggressive UHC PR push is falling flat. They probably pay out nicely for their executives' and flacks' medical care. The rest of us get denied and stonewalled.

LOL as if doctors aren’t wealthy AHs too