https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKRJWU4F383C/$file/10.01%20Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT%20REV.pdf

I was able to find it here.

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Can anyone else view it now?

Can anyone with a copy post it online somewhere

If you go to BOE meeting agenda site and click 10.1 and then the attached PDF file, you are still able to view it. They might have taken it down and reuploaded a new version so the original link broke.

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=DF4SY674E774

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Anonymous wrote:So under this would existing PLTW schools lose their programs if they aren’t listed as offering an engineering program? Or is that considered a local program?

More broadly, what is the definition of a local program that is not centrally managed?

It's a program that the school offers to its own students who express interest, not one that's on this list: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ovH1xt873E-0-dqjWCz00koPlHeACK6YwyekZ9zngQ/preview?tab=t.0

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...

What are the boundary recommendations?
Did they share the survey results?
Are the recommendations consistent with the survey results?

They survey was never going to result in every parent getting what they personally want at their home school. It was meant to understand: A) What classes were actually being offered where; and B) What programs would need to be offered inside each "cluster."

Matters like boundary revisions should never be left up to popular survey, which disproportionately reflect the concerns of UMC white/Asian families.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.

With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.

The programs are not in the purview of the BOE, it’s Taylor and McPS. The BOE only gets final say in the boundaries. The BOE hs been asking critical questions of both studies. The first time Taylor let the Program team answer for themselves. Then, in July, Taylor chimed in like a used car salesman to smooth over when his team gave honest answers that the BoE clearly didn’t like.

This is laughable if meant to suggest that the BOE has posed questions and follow-ups with any of the breadth and depth that would be necessary to address the important issues raised here and elsewhere about the program analyais and boundary study. It continues to be an embarrassment, if eclipsed in that regard by the deliberate reticence of MCPS, itself.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.

With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.

The programs are not in the purview of the BOE, it’s Taylor and McPS. The BOE only gets final say in the boundaries. The BOE hs been asking critical questions of both studies. The first time Taylor let the Program team answer for themselves. Then, in July, Taylor chimed in like a used car salesman to smooth over when his team gave honest answers that the BoE clearly didn’t like.

LOL
Are you enjoying the Kool-Aid? The BOE runs the school system. It is all their purview.

The BOE advises. The superintendent runs the school system. The BOE's only hard power is to hire and fire the superintendent.

The BOE is the highest authority in the school system and can exercise as much power as they want. While of course they don't micromanage small details, Taylor works for them and all the rest of MCPS works for him. If there is something you believe they don't have the authority to change, you're going to need to show some proof.

This is Julie Yang's quote: "The board and the school system have different roles. The board's role is policy and budget. The school system is in operation. In terms of the boundary study, boundary decisions will require a vote from the board. However, program design is under the Superintendent's purview. MCPS put in programs, modify programs, or eliminate programs all the time. These decisions do not require a board vote. For example, this past school year, MCPS eliminated one CASE (Curriculum for Agricultural Science Education) program in high school.

However, the board can, through our questions and conversations, help adjust and improve the work of MCPS and can hold the Superintendent accountable for the results. "

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Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.

With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.

The programs are not in the purview of the BOE, it’s Taylor and McPS. The BOE only gets final say in the boundaries. The BOE hs been asking critical questions of both studies. The first time Taylor let the Program team answer for themselves. Then, in July, Taylor chimed in like a used car salesman to smooth over when his team gave honest answers that the BoE clearly didn’t like.

LOL
Are you enjoying the Kool-Aid? The BOE runs the school system. It is all their purview.

The BOE advises. The superintendent runs the school system. The BOE's only hard power is to hire and fire the superintendent.

The BOE is the highest authority in the school system and can exercise as much power as they want. While of course they don't micromanage small details, Taylor works for them and all the rest of MCPS works for him. If there is something you believe they don't have the authority to change, you're going to need to show some proof.

Anonymous wrote:I am interested in what the unions have to say about this.

MCEA and MCCPTA sent delegates to testify today. Tune-in the public comment session to hear about teacher union and parents concerns.

So under this would existing PLTW schools lose their programs if they aren’t listed as offering an engineering program? Or is that considered a local program?

More broadly, what is the definition of a local program that is not centrally managed?

Anonymous wrote:Why do some regions have 2 IB schools? This seems redundant.

Is this the list of where we are now or what will be offered? They could decide to conslodate to kne program per region.

Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...

What are the boundary recommendations?
Did they share the survey results?
Are the recommendations consistent with the survey results?

I am interested in what the unions have to say about this.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.

With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.

The programs are not in the purview of the BOE, it’s Taylor and McPS. The BOE only gets final say in the boundaries. The BOE hs been asking critical questions of both studies. The first time Taylor let the Program team answer for themselves. Then, in July, Taylor chimed in like a used car salesman to smooth over when his team gave honest answers that the BoE clearly didn’t like.

LOL
Are you enjoying the Kool-Aid? The BOE runs the school system. It is all their purview.

The BOE advises. The superintendent runs the school system. The BOE's only hard power is to hire and fire the superintendent.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.

With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.

And fire Taylor.