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Post 10/01/2025 21:14     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

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Anonymous wrote:Annapolis definitely feels blue collar and redneck, don’t know what you guys are taking about. About 50% of the people you’ll see there have tattoos, the food scene is 90% bar and pub food, there are no high end/sophistic restaurants, and it feels like a rustic town from the south.


Huh??? Have we been to the same Annapolis?

Your description sounds more like Odenton and Glen Burnie.


Yes, I’ve lived in Annapolis, and I’m born and raised in Bethesda. I’ve also lived around much of the US and even outside of it. Annapolis is not all multi-million dollar waterfront homes on the Severn River. Much of it is working-class and middle-class, and there’s a bunch of public housing within the city. Highland Beach and Parole have a lot of working-class rednecks. It’s not the rich la-la-la land you all wish it was, it’s like any other super segregated city from the south. Also, in my experience, the white people in Annapolis are way more racist and Trumpy than white people in Odenton, who are way more progressive. There is nothing high end about downtown Annapolis at all. It’s just a bunch of bars, pubs, grungy coffee shops like Rise Up. Anything fancy in Annapolis looks stuck in 2005, like Carpaccio.

Odenton and Crofton are far more cosmopolitan than Annapolis ever will be. The only “diversity” in Annapolis is Black and Hispanic people living in public housing. Both Odenton and Crofton blow Annapolis out of the water when it comes to the percentage of college educated residents. Diversity in Crofton and Odenton includes Asian, Middle Eastern, African, Muslim, and Indian families. They have the highest percentage of foreign born families in all of AA County. The horrible/garbage public schools in Annapolis would never attract those families in a million years. Not even wealthy people in Annapolis want anything to do with those schools.


Odenton, Crofton and cosmopolitan. That’s the first time I’ve seen those words in a sentence together.


Big night in Odenton is getting a chicken box at Royal Farms and finishing the night with some cold ones at Buck Murphy’s.


A “big night out” in Annapolis usually means dragging your husband who’s now shaped like a retired lacrosse ball into the same boat shoes, salmon shorts, and off-brand Vineyard Vines button-down you panic-bought at Marshalls during the Obama administration. You’ll make a reservation at Dock Street Bar & Grill, because apparently nothing says “coastal charm” like bland crab dip and a 50/50 chance of food poisoning, while a local rock band made up entirely of guys who peaked playing Battle of the Bands before dropping out of Broadneck butchers a Dave Matthews cover in the corner. Then comes the highlight: swaying in a sweaty crowd of sunburnt Edgewater rednecks and Calvert County day-drinkers, surrounded by Anne Arundel’s “elite”: people whose resumes peak with an associate’s degree from AACC or a marketing diploma from Salisbury and who now live in their parents’ basements, proudly insisting they “just love the Annapolis lifestyle.” Annapolis is a place where ambition goes to die quietly between $3 rail drinks, and the only thing more bloated than the crowd’s livers are their delusions that this is somehow “upscale living.”



This thread (and this post in particular) is so good. An unexpected gem.
I've only been to the historic downtown part. Literally the "get ice cream and look at the water" part so loving all the descriptions.

Totally! I love this thread and I want more from the ‘Annapolis hater’: s/he is great!


They’ll be back. Like most Odenton residents, they want you to think they’re at some fancy embassy event, or dinner at a Jose Andres restaurant. Reality is they probably drove the leased Hellcat over to Arundel Mills. While the little ones are running between the food court and Bass Pro Shops, they’re playing quarter slots at Maryland Live!


Oh wow, you’re so fancy because you live in “historic downtown” where you can walk to a Mission BBQ, Starbucks, and Chipotle. You know who else can walk to those places? People who live in Waugh Chapel Town Center — where every single one of those exact same chains is right there too. Your “iconic harbor” is just a puddle with overpriced crab dip, crawling with retirees in Sperrys pretending they’re in Nantucket while seagulls fight over discarded fries. One of the fanciest restaurants you can brag about is Ruth’s Chris, which, by the way, also exists in Odenton. And that “beloved” Annapolis Ice Cream Company you act like is some local treasure? Yeah, it’s scooping cones in Crofton now too under the name “Always Ice Cream Company,” because apparently even the ice cream wants to escape the fake charm.

The truth is, downtown Annapolis isn’t special. It’s Waugh Chapel Town Center with worse parking, higher prices, geriatric boutique stores no one has bought anything from since 1935, and a superiority complex so deep it could drown in its own harbor water.

At least people in Piney Orchard and Waugh Chapel can say they can walk to grocery stores. People in downtown Annapolis can’t even do that.
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Post 10/01/2025 20:51     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

The problem is that when people talk about Annapolis, they talk about it like it is only the $3M waterfront homes and West Annapolis and gloss over 75% of Annapolis, which consists of generic, non-waterfront, middle-class suburbia—which is the exact same thing Odenton and Crofton are. Plenty of trashy beach towns on the eastern shore also have $6M waterfront homes. Does that suddenly mean they’re Bethesda?
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Post 10/01/2025 20:50     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

I’m from the WC and live in Annapolis now and I think people here have that PA/philly suburbs accent.
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Post 10/01/2025 20:48     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

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Anonymous wrote:Have to admit I'm laughing at some of the descriptions.

It must be pointed out Annapolis still has a lot of money. The historic area housing (outside the projects) is very expensive. The waterfront all around Annapolis is very expensive. So what do all these people and families in the $3M houses do?



Apparently they are scraping by until they can afford to move to Piney Orchard. No malice in this, Piney Orchard is fine, but there is a poster hellbent on proving that Odenton and Crofton are the peak of sophistication.


Nobody is saying that Odenton and Crofton are the peak of sophistication, this all started from previous posters lumping Odenton with Glen Burnie and placing Annapolis on a pedestal as if it has no issues. Odenton is a boring suburb, nobody is denying that. But it’s not equivalent to Glen Burnie in the slightest.
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Post 10/01/2025 20:40     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

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Anonymous wrote:Annapolis definitely feels blue collar and redneck, don’t know what you guys are taking about. About 50% of the people you’ll see there have tattoos, the food scene is 90% bar and pub food, there are no high end/sophistic restaurants, and it feels like a rustic town from the south.


Huh??? Have we been to the same Annapolis?

Your description sounds more like Odenton and Glen Burnie.


Yes, I’ve lived in Annapolis, and I’m born and raised in Bethesda. I’ve also lived around much of the US and even outside of it. Annapolis is not all multi-million dollar waterfront homes on the Severn River. Much of it is working-class and middle-class, and there’s a bunch of public housing within the city. Highland Beach and Parole have a lot of working-class rednecks. It’s not the rich la-la-la land you all wish it was, it’s like any other super segregated city from the south. Also, in my experience, the white people in Annapolis are way more racist and Trumpy than white people in Odenton, who are way more progressive. There is nothing high end about downtown Annapolis at all. It’s just a bunch of bars, pubs, grungy coffee shops like Rise Up. Anything fancy in Annapolis looks stuck in 2005, like Carpaccio.

Odenton and Crofton are far more cosmopolitan than Annapolis ever will be. The only “diversity” in Annapolis is Black and Hispanic people living in public housing. Both Odenton and Crofton blow Annapolis out of the water when it comes to the percentage of college educated residents. Diversity in Crofton and Odenton includes Asian, Middle Eastern, African, Muslim, and Indian families. They have the highest percentage of foreign born families in all of AA County. The horrible/garbage public schools in Annapolis would never attract those families in a million years. Not even wealthy people in Annapolis want anything to do with those schools.


Odenton, Crofton and cosmopolitan. That’s the first time I’ve seen those words in a sentence together.


Big night in Odenton is getting a chicken box at Royal Farms and finishing the night with some cold ones at Buck Murphy’s.


A “big night out” in Annapolis usually means dragging your husband who’s now shaped like a retired lacrosse ball into the same boat shoes, salmon shorts, and off-brand Vineyard Vines button-down you panic-bought at Marshalls during the Obama administration. You’ll make a reservation at Dock Street Bar & Grill, because apparently nothing says “coastal charm” like bland crab dip and a 50/50 chance of food poisoning, while a local rock band made up entirely of guys who peaked playing Battle of the Bands before dropping out of Broadneck butchers a Dave Matthews cover in the corner. Then comes the highlight: swaying in a sweaty crowd of sunburnt Edgewater rednecks and Calvert County day-drinkers, surrounded by Anne Arundel’s “elite”: people whose resumes peak with an associate’s degree from AACC or a marketing diploma from Salisbury and who now live in their parents’ basements, proudly insisting they “just love the Annapolis lifestyle.” Annapolis is a place where ambition goes to die quietly between $3 rail drinks, and the only thing more bloated than the crowd’s livers are their delusions that this is somehow “upscale living.”



This thread (and this post in particular) is so good. An unexpected gem.
I've only been to the historic downtown part. Literally the "get ice cream and look at the water" part so loving all the descriptions.

Totally! I love this thread and I want more from the ‘Annapolis hater’: s/he is great!


They’ll be back. Like most Odenton residents, they want you to think they’re at some fancy embassy event, or dinner at a Jose Andres restaurant. Reality is they probably drove the leased Hellcat over to Arundel Mills. While the little ones are running between the food court and Bass Pro Shops, they’re playing quarter slots at Maryland Live!
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Post 10/01/2025 20:29     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

Anonymous wrote:Bawmore Hon.


Bawmer, Merlin, hun.
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Post 10/01/2025 20:25     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

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Anonymous wrote:Annapolis definitely feels blue collar and redneck, don’t know what you guys are taking about. About 50% of the people you’ll see there have tattoos, the food scene is 90% bar and pub food, there are no high end/sophistic restaurants, and it feels like a rustic town from the south.


Huh??? Have we been to the same Annapolis?

Your description sounds more like Odenton and Glen Burnie.


Yes, I’ve lived in Annapolis, and I’m born and raised in Bethesda. I’ve also lived around much of the US and even outside of it. Annapolis is not all multi-million dollar waterfront homes on the Severn River. Much of it is working-class and middle-class, and there’s a bunch of public housing within the city. Highland Beach and Parole have a lot of working-class rednecks. It’s not the rich la-la-la land you all wish it was, it’s like any other super segregated city from the south. Also, in my experience, the white people in Annapolis are way more racist and Trumpy than white people in Odenton, who are way more progressive. There is nothing high end about downtown Annapolis at all. It’s just a bunch of bars, pubs, grungy coffee shops like Rise Up. Anything fancy in Annapolis looks stuck in 2005, like Carpaccio.

Odenton and Crofton are far more cosmopolitan than Annapolis ever will be. The only “diversity” in Annapolis is Black and Hispanic people living in public housing. Both Odenton and Crofton blow Annapolis out of the water when it comes to the percentage of college educated residents. Diversity in Crofton and Odenton includes Asian, Middle Eastern, African, Muslim, and Indian families. They have the highest percentage of foreign born families in all of AA County. The horrible/garbage public schools in Annapolis would never attract those families in a million years. Not even wealthy people in Annapolis want anything to do with those schools.


Odenton, Crofton and cosmopolitan. That’s the first time I’ve seen those words in a sentence together.


Big night in Odenton is getting a chicken box at Royal Farms and finishing the night with some cold ones at Buck Murphy’s.


A “big night out” in Annapolis usually means dragging your husband who’s now shaped like a retired lacrosse ball into the same boat shoes, salmon shorts, and off-brand Vineyard Vines button-down you panic-bought at Marshalls during the Obama administration. You’ll make a reservation at Dock Street Bar & Grill, because apparently nothing says “coastal charm” like bland crab dip and a 50/50 chance of food poisoning, while a local rock band made up entirely of guys who peaked playing Battle of the Bands before dropping out of Broadneck butchers a Dave Matthews cover in the corner. Then comes the highlight: swaying in a sweaty crowd of sunburnt Edgewater rednecks and Calvert County day-drinkers, surrounded by Anne Arundel’s “elite”: people whose resumes peak with an associate’s degree from AACC or a marketing diploma from Salisbury and who now live in their parents’ basements, proudly insisting they “just love the Annapolis lifestyle.” Annapolis is a place where ambition goes to die quietly between $3 rail drinks, and the only thing more bloated than the crowd’s livers are their delusions that this is somehow “upscale living.”



This thread (and this post in particular) is so good. An unexpected gem.
I've only been to the historic downtown part. Literally the "get ice cream and look at the water" part so loving all the descriptions.

Totally! I love this thread and I want more from the ‘Annapolis hater’: s/he is great!
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2025 15:16     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

Anonymous wrote:Have to admit I'm laughing at some of the descriptions.

It must be pointed out Annapolis still has a lot of money. The historic area housing (outside the projects) is very expensive. The waterfront all around Annapolis is very expensive. So what do all these people and families in the $3M houses do?



Apparently they are scraping by until they can afford to move to Piney Orchard. No malice in this, Piney Orchard is fine, but there is a poster hellbent on proving that Odenton and Crofton are the peak of sophistication.
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Post 10/01/2025 15:05     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

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Anonymous wrote:Have to admit I'm laughing at some of the descriptions.

It must be pointed out Annapolis still has a lot of money. The historic area housing (outside the projects) is very expensive. The waterfront all around Annapolis is very expensive. So what do all these people and families in the $3M houses do?



Family money


Also, the grift around government contracting and it being the state capital.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2025 15:02     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

Anonymous wrote:Have to admit I'm laughing at some of the descriptions.

It must be pointed out Annapolis still has a lot of money. The historic area housing (outside the projects) is very expensive. The waterfront all around Annapolis is very expensive. So what do all these people and families in the $3M houses do?



Family money
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Post 10/01/2025 14:48     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

Have to admit I'm laughing at some of the descriptions.

It must be pointed out Annapolis still has a lot of money. The historic area housing (outside the projects) is very expensive. The waterfront all around Annapolis is very expensive. So what do all these people and families in the $3M houses do?

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Post 10/01/2025 14:32     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

You need to go to parts of Dorchester County, Wicomico County and the bayside parts of Worcester County Maryland to find the accent.

It can also be found on the eastern shore of Virginia.

It is strong on Smith Island (Md) and Tangier Island (Va) islands.
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Post 10/01/2025 14:28     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

Going back to the original question, you no longer have waterman keeping their boats at the town docks and crabbing and oystering like they have for centuries.
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Post 10/01/2025 14:25     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

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Anonymous wrote:Annapolis definitely feels blue collar and redneck, don’t know what you guys are taking about. About 50% of the people you’ll see there have tattoos, the food scene is 90% bar and pub food, there are no high end/sophistic restaurants, and it feels like a rustic town from the south.


Huh??? Have we been to the same Annapolis?

Your description sounds more like Odenton and Glen Burnie.


Yes, I’ve lived in Annapolis, and I’m born and raised in Bethesda. I’ve also lived around much of the US and even outside of it. Annapolis is not all multi-million dollar waterfront homes on the Severn River. Much of it is working-class and middle-class, and there’s a bunch of public housing within the city. Highland Beach and Parole have a lot of working-class rednecks. It’s not the rich la-la-la land you all wish it was, it’s like any other super segregated city from the south. Also, in my experience, the white people in Annapolis are way more racist and Trumpy than white people in Odenton, who are way more progressive. There is nothing high end about downtown Annapolis at all. It’s just a bunch of bars, pubs, grungy coffee shops like Rise Up. Anything fancy in Annapolis looks stuck in 2005, like Carpaccio.

Odenton and Crofton are far more cosmopolitan than Annapolis ever will be. The only “diversity” in Annapolis is Black and Hispanic people living in public housing. Both Odenton and Crofton blow Annapolis out of the water when it comes to the percentage of college educated residents. Diversity in Crofton and Odenton includes Asian, Middle Eastern, African, Muslim, and Indian families. They have the highest percentage of foreign born families in all of AA County. The horrible/garbage public schools in Annapolis would never attract those families in a million years. Not even wealthy people in Annapolis want anything to do with those schools.


Odenton, Crofton and cosmopolitan. That’s the first time I’ve seen those words in a sentence together.


Big night in Odenton is getting a chicken box at Royal Farms and finishing the night with some cold ones at Buck Murphy’s.


Yeah, because Odenton is a suburb, of course it’s boring. The whole point of suburbs is moving there for the good schools, safety, and slower pace of life, and Annapolis offers none of those things. Many people lived in DC, Baltimore, or some other city before moving to Odenton and sell their house to move back to those cities once their kids are grown and out of the house.

If people in Odenton want a good night out, they’ll just go to DC and Baltimore and eat at actual sophisticated restaurants like Le Diplomat, Lapis, Supra, Villa Yara, the Saga, and Fiola. Nobody from Odenton would be caught dead eating at a bar in Annapolis that’s full of loud drunk rednecks laughing because they lit their farts on fire and women named “Dawn” who tease their hair like it’s 1970 and have nothing to talk about except for how they remember when the outskirts of Annapolis consisted of nothing but forests and how there’s so much overdevelopment now.


They serve Hot Pockets at Le Dip and allow you to wear purple camo?
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Post 10/01/2025 14:22     Subject: Why does Annapolis not have the Baltimore nor Chesapeake Bay “Hoi Toider” accent ?

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Anonymous wrote:Annapolis definitely feels blue collar and redneck, don’t know what you guys are taking about. About 50% of the people you’ll see there have tattoos, the food scene is 90% bar and pub food, there are no high end/sophistic restaurants, and it feels like a rustic town from the south.


Huh??? Have we been to the same Annapolis?

Your description sounds more like Odenton and Glen Burnie.


Yes, I’ve lived in Annapolis, and I’m born and raised in Bethesda. I’ve also lived around much of the US and even outside of it. Annapolis is not all multi-million dollar waterfront homes on the Severn River. Much of it is working-class and middle-class, and there’s a bunch of public housing within the city. Highland Beach and Parole have a lot of working-class rednecks. It’s not the rich la-la-la land you all wish it was, it’s like any other super segregated city from the south. Also, in my experience, the white people in Annapolis are way more racist and Trumpy than white people in Odenton, who are way more progressive. There is nothing high end about downtown Annapolis at all. It’s just a bunch of bars, pubs, grungy coffee shops like Rise Up. Anything fancy in Annapolis looks stuck in 2005, like Carpaccio.

Odenton and Crofton are far more cosmopolitan than Annapolis ever will be. The only “diversity” in Annapolis is Black and Hispanic people living in public housing. Both Odenton and Crofton blow Annapolis out of the water when it comes to the percentage of college educated residents. Diversity in Crofton and Odenton includes Asian, Middle Eastern, African, Muslim, and Indian families. They have the highest percentage of foreign born families in all of AA County. The horrible/garbage public schools in Annapolis would never attract those families in a million years. Not even wealthy people in Annapolis want anything to do with those schools.


Odenton, Crofton and cosmopolitan. That’s the first time I’ve seen those words in a sentence together.


Big night in Odenton is getting a chicken box at Royal Farms and finishing the night with some cold ones at Buck Murphy’s.


A “big night out” in Annapolis usually means dragging your husband who’s now shaped like a retired lacrosse ball into the same boat shoes, salmon shorts, and off-brand Vineyard Vines button-down you panic-bought at Marshalls during the Obama administration. You’ll make a reservation at Dock Street Bar & Grill, because apparently nothing says “coastal charm” like bland crab dip and a 50/50 chance of food poisoning, while a local rock band made up entirely of guys who peaked playing Battle of the Bands before dropping out of Broadneck butchers a Dave Matthews cover in the corner. Then comes the highlight: swaying in a sweaty crowd of sunburnt Edgewater rednecks and Calvert County day-drinkers, surrounded by Anne Arundel’s “elite”: people whose resumes peak with an associate’s degree from AACC or a marketing diploma from Salisbury and who now live in their parents’ basements, proudly insisting they “just love the Annapolis lifestyle.” Annapolis is a place where ambition goes to die quietly between $3 rail drinks, and the only thing more bloated than the crowd’s livers are their delusions that this is somehow “upscale living.”



This thread (and this post in particular) is so good. An unexpected gem.
I've only been to the historic downtown part. Literally the "get ice cream and look at the water" part so loving all the descriptions.


For as disdainful as PP is to Annapolis, they sure are quite intimate with the town.