Anonymous wrote:state president of well known club - also held national and international roles and smaller club roles along the way.
Regional and state student council roles.
Tons of other stuff but those were the most impactful
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Am I wrong to think the high school is a key variable here? I think if you have top rigor, grade and score from a top HS (Sidwell/ TJ type or Dalton/ Stuy in NYC), you don’t need those insane ECs to stand out, esp if full pay.
Your high school is always the most important factor. No one wants to admit that on this site, especially with so many public school parents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Am I wrong to think the high school is a key variable here? I think if you have top rigor, grade and score from a top HS (Sidwell/ TJ type or Dalton/ Stuy in NYC), you don’t need those insane ECs to stand out, esp if full pay.
Your high school is always the most important factor. No one wants to admit that on this site, especially with so many public school parents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP I see posts like OP’s on here so often but at our school (independent feeder school not in DVM or NYC), those kinds of ECs are almost unheard of. Kids play varsity sports, do things like write for the school paper, theater, debate, and each year 25- 30 out of 100 seniors get into Ivy/top 15. I’ve never heard of anyone publishing any research let alone develop an AI service used by real corporate clients
That's because the kids at this school get in because of the wealth and accomplishments of the parents. In the normal world, students tend to need to distinguish themselves beyond theater club.
What do you mean? This parent dare not donors. These days, you need 7-8 figure donation to move the needle on admissions at a top 20
a kid working on cars and getting paid as a part time job is retro authentic, and an absolute gem on the application - rich parents funding wood working hobby meh
Looks like this car thing is the new rich person EC because I know two kids (one is the son of a billionaire) who are both working in garages. I wonder which college counselor is advising this.
Anonymous wrote:Am I wrong to think the high school is a key variable here? I think if you have top rigor, grade and score from a top HS (Sidwell/ TJ type or Dalton/ Stuy in NYC), you don’t need those insane ECs to stand out, esp if full pay.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP I see posts like OP’s on here so often but at our school (independent feeder school not in DVM or NYC), those kinds of ECs are almost unheard of. Kids play varsity sports, do things like write for the school paper, theater, debate, and each year 25- 30 out of 100 seniors get into Ivy/top 15. I’ve never heard of anyone publishing any research let alone develop an AI service used by real corporate clients
Same outcomes at our non-DMV private.
But kids do unusual sports outside of school (fencing; sailing; squash; equestrian) and that gets noticed esp if there are accolades.
PT Jobs/internships too.
Niche hobbies (woodworking; agricultural related; beekeeping; birdwatching; urban farming) are also growing more common.
But no businesses with corporate clients etc.
Same outcomes at our DMV private.
Don’t worry, high schoolers publishing “ground breaking” research in respected journals is not the norm.
I think the issue is not whether or not it's the norm. Much jealousy and hate on high school research (or anything usual) is due to that moms think their genius can also publish paper given the access.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP I see posts like OP’s on here so often but at our school (independent feeder school not in DVM or NYC), those kinds of ECs are almost unheard of. Kids play varsity sports, do things like write for the school paper, theater, debate, and each year 25- 30 out of 100 seniors get into Ivy/top 15. I’ve never heard of anyone publishing any research let alone develop an AI service used by real corporate clients
Same outcomes at our non-DMV private.
But kids do unusual sports outside of school (fencing; sailing; squash; equestrian) and that gets noticed esp if there are accolades.
PT Jobs/internships too.
Niche hobbies (woodworking; agricultural related; beekeeping; birdwatching; urban farming) are also growing more common.
But no businesses with corporate clients etc.
Same outcomes at our DMV private.
Don’t worry, high schoolers publishing “ground breaking” research in respected journals is not the norm.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP I see posts like OP’s on here so often but at our school (independent feeder school not in DVM or NYC), those kinds of ECs are almost unheard of. Kids play varsity sports, do things like write for the school paper, theater, debate, and each year 25- 30 out of 100 seniors get into Ivy/top 15. I’ve never heard of anyone publishing any research let alone develop an AI service used by real corporate clients
That's because the kids at this school get in because of the wealth and accomplishments of the parents. In the normal world, students tend to need to distinguish themselves beyond theater club.
What do you mean? This parent dare not donors. These days, you need 7-8 figure donation to move the needle on admissions at a top 20
a kid working on cars and getting paid as a part time job is retro authentic, and an absolute gem on the application - rich parents funding wood working hobby meh
How is woodworking a rich people hobby?
It is if they can afford to build a stick a woodworking shed in their backyard. Table saws and lathes ain’t cheap.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP I see posts like OP’s on here so often but at our school (independent feeder school not in DVM or NYC), those kinds of ECs are almost unheard of. Kids play varsity sports, do things like write for the school paper, theater, debate, and each year 25- 30 out of 100 seniors get into Ivy/top 15. I’ve never heard of anyone publishing any research let alone develop an AI service used by real corporate clients
Same outcomes at our non-DMV private.
But kids do unusual sports outside of school (fencing; sailing; squash; equestrian) and that gets noticed esp if there are accolades.
PT Jobs/internships too.
Niche hobbies (woodworking; agricultural related; beekeeping; birdwatching; urban farming) are also growing more common.
But no businesses with corporate clients etc.