Anonymous wrote:Trump is not Hitler, but it is instructive to note how the Nazis handled the homeless and the mentally ill.
How Nazi Germany treated homeless and mentally ill people
The Nazi regime, driven by its ideology of racial purity and the creation of a "national community," viewed homeless and mentally ill individuals as burdens on society and threats to their vision of the German nation.
1. Homeless people
*Criminalization and marginalization: The Nazis viewed homeless people, along with beggars and the unemployed, as "asocial" and "parasites of society," criminalizing their existence and stripping them of their rights.
Imprisonment in concentration camps: Roundups of homeless individuals began in 1933, and by 1938, thousands were arrested and sent to concentration camps like Buchenwald and Sachsenhausen, where they were subjected to brutality, forced labor, and eventually, death through starvation, torture, and illness.
*Forced sterilization: The Nazi regime advocated for the forced sterilization of those deemed "racially inferior tramps" as part of their broader eugenics policies to prevent the reproduction of individuals considered "unfit" to contribute to the Aryan race.
2. Mentally ill people
*Forced sterilization: The Nazis enacted the Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring in 1933, leading to the forced sterilization of hundreds of thousands diagnosed with mental illnesses like schizophrenia, epilepsy, and other conditions considered hereditary or "feeblemindedness."
Euthanasia program (Aktion T4): Starting with disabled infants in 1939 and expanding to adults, the Nazi regime systematically murdered individuals with mental illnesses under the guise of "mercy killing" or "euthanasia".
*Killing Centers: Individuals deemed "unfit for life" were transferred to six designated killing centers (e.g., Hadamar, Hartheim) where they were killed, often by gas in chambers disguised as showers.
Methods of killing: Besides gassing, other methods used included lethal injections, starvation, and exposure in unheated wards.
Medical research and organ harvesting: At centers like Hadamar, victims' organs were removed for medical research before their bodies were buried in mass graves.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apologies if this should be in the 7 nights of action thread but it seems like a topic worthy of separate attention and discussion.
This is just insane.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2025/08/11/dc-ag-warns-involuntary-commitments-dc-trump-homeless/
You want mentally ill people staying on the streets?
+1
DP: You guys have never studied or worked on the streets with this issue at all. Think this through. Where are they going to go? Is there room? Who is paying for it? Is there enough money? What if they don't want to stay there?
What about the homeless who have already begun the long and difficult process of getting help by establishing relationships with volunteers on the streets who are earning their trust and working through the system to get that person available help? What happens when the person is arrested and moved to God knows where and cannot be found by the trained professional person they used to trust? They are back behind square 1.
Why are they homeless? What has been done to change the conditions that put them on the streets in the first place? Who is actually doing the work to solve those problems and who is making it impossible to address those problems?
IF Trump actually cares about these people, why isn't he asking the folks who work this issue for a living what resources they actually need to help this population?
Because he doesn't care -- he doesn't want to help them; he wants them gone. He just doesn't want to see tents on the way to his golf course.
This. A 72 hour psych hold will accomplish nothing except more fear and trauma. Which I suppose is Trump's goal.
If he cared about poverty and homelessness, he certainly wouldn't be cutting medicaid, snap, and HUD.
He wants fear and trauma so he’s trying to get the homeless off the streets??
Some of you are so brainwashed that you can’t even think logically about issues. You have liberals on here criticizing sending homeless people to the hospitals for medical assistance. It’s like left wing people arguing that illegals should be able to remain for low wage jobs (farm workers for example). Since when do liberals want to take advantage of American workers? Since when do you want people living on the streets?
Homelessness is a big problem, much worse here than other countries and I welcome ideas about what to do about it.
Yes, he wants to create fear and trauma among homeless people.
We know how to address homelessness -- affordable housing, no barrier substance abuse treatment, mental health care available but not forced, a harm reduction model toward drug use. What does 72 hours in a crowded ER accomplish? Especially when it is likely to be uncompensated care, stretching safety net hospitals even more.
Except we’ve been trying that for decades and it hasn’t helped. Either go to treatment or go to jail.
What will the charge be if they are put in jail?
Jails are bursting at the seams and grossly understaffed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a healthcare professional, this is infuriating. If the government actually wants to get involved in "helping" the homeless with mental health issues they would invest money into our abysmal mental health system. I have patients waiting days, if not weeks, on holds in the ER waiting for inpatient psych beds. It's a completely inappropriate place for them because they are not getting the care they need and the atmosphere is not helpful. And it takes up resources that we don't have.
Of course but this takes time.
Curious why you think your patients waiting for an inpatient psych bed should receive one over a homeless person who is determined to need a psych bed?
Anonymous wrote:So those of us who want medical care won't have beds?
Anonymous wrote:The goal isn't to treat people or help people. The goal is to get people to move their homeless camps outside of DC.
I agree with the pp who said getting the 72 hour won't be easy. But if it were somehow possible maybe moving from DC to Alexandria or Silver Spring would be worth it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apologies if this should be in the 7 nights of action thread but it seems like a topic worthy of separate attention and discussion.
This is just insane.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2025/08/11/dc-ag-warns-involuntary-commitments-dc-trump-homeless/
You want mentally ill people staying on the streets?
+1
DP: You guys have never studied or worked on the streets with this issue at all. Think this through. Where are they going to go? Is there room? Who is paying for it? Is there enough money? What if they don't want to stay there?
What about the homeless who have already begun the long and difficult process of getting help by establishing relationships with volunteers on the streets who are earning their trust and working through the system to get that person available help? What happens when the person is arrested and moved to God knows where and cannot be found by the trained professional person they used to trust? They are back behind square 1.
Why are they homeless? What has been done to change the conditions that put them on the streets in the first place? Who is actually doing the work to solve those problems and who is making it impossible to address those problems?
IF Trump actually cares about these people, why isn't he asking the folks who work this issue for a living what resources they actually need to help this population?
Because he doesn't care -- he doesn't want to help them; he wants them gone. He just doesn't want to see tents on the way to his golf course.
This. A 72 hour psych hold will accomplish nothing except more fear and trauma. Which I suppose is Trump's goal.
If he cared about poverty and homelessness, he certainly wouldn't be cutting medicaid, snap, and HUD.
He wants fear and trauma so he’s trying to get the homeless off the streets??
Some of you are so brainwashed that you can’t even think logically about issues. You have liberals on here criticizing sending homeless people to the hospitals for medical assistance. It’s like left wing people arguing that illegals should be able to remain for low wage jobs (farm workers for example). Since when do liberals want to take advantage of American workers? Since when do you want people living on the streets?
Homelessness is a big problem, much worse here than other countries and I welcome ideas about what to do about it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apologies if this should be in the 7 nights of action thread but it seems like a topic worthy of separate attention and discussion.
This is just insane.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2025/08/11/dc-ag-warns-involuntary-commitments-dc-trump-homeless/
You want mentally ill people staying on the streets?
+1
DP: You guys have never studied or worked on the streets with this issue at all. Think this through. Where are they going to go? Is there room? Who is paying for it? Is there enough money? What if they don't want to stay there?
What about the homeless who have already begun the long and difficult process of getting help by establishing relationships with volunteers on the streets who are earning their trust and working through the system to get that person available help? What happens when the person is arrested and moved to God knows where and cannot be found by the trained professional person they used to trust? They are back behind square 1.
Why are they homeless? What has been done to change the conditions that put them on the streets in the first place? Who is actually doing the work to solve those problems and who is making it impossible to address those problems?
IF Trump actually cares about these people, why isn't he asking the folks who work this issue for a living what resources they actually need to help this population?
Because he doesn't care -- he doesn't want to help them; he wants them gone. He just doesn't want to see tents on the way to his golf course.
This. A 72 hour psych hold will accomplish nothing except more fear and trauma. Which I suppose is Trump's goal.
If he cared about poverty and homelessness, he certainly wouldn't be cutting medicaid, snap, and HUD.
He wants fear and trauma so he’s trying to get the homeless off the streets??
Some of you are so brainwashed that you can’t even think logically about issues. You have liberals on here criticizing sending homeless people to the hospitals for medical assistance. It’s like left wing people arguing that illegals should be able to remain for low wage jobs (farm workers for example). Since when do liberals want to take advantage of American workers? Since when do you want people living on the streets?
Homelessness is a big problem, much worse here than other countries and I welcome ideas about what to do about it.
Yes, he wants to create fear and trauma among homeless people.
We know how to address homelessness -- affordable housing, no barrier substance abuse treatment, mental health care available but not forced, a harm reduction model toward drug use. What does 72 hours in a crowded ER accomplish? Especially when it is likely to be uncompensated care, stretching safety net hospitals even more.
Except we’ve been trying that for decades and it hasn’t helped. Either go to treatment or go to jail.
What will the charge be if they are put in jail?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apologies if this should be in the 7 nights of action thread but it seems like a topic worthy of separate attention and discussion.
This is just insane.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2025/08/11/dc-ag-warns-involuntary-commitments-dc-trump-homeless/
You want mentally ill people staying on the streets?
+1
DP: You guys have never studied or worked on the streets with this issue at all. Think this through. Where are they going to go? Is there room? Who is paying for it? Is there enough money? What if they don't want to stay there?
What about the homeless who have already begun the long and difficult process of getting help by establishing relationships with volunteers on the streets who are earning their trust and working through the system to get that person available help? What happens when the person is arrested and moved to God knows where and cannot be found by the trained professional person they used to trust? They are back behind square 1.
Why are they homeless? What has been done to change the conditions that put them on the streets in the first place? Who is actually doing the work to solve those problems and who is making it impossible to address those problems?
IF Trump actually cares about these people, why isn't he asking the folks who work this issue for a living what resources they actually need to help this population?
Because he doesn't care -- he doesn't want to help them; he wants them gone. He just doesn't want to see tents on the way to his golf course.
This. A 72 hour psych hold will accomplish nothing except more fear and trauma. Which I suppose is Trump's goal.
If he cared about poverty and homelessness, he certainly wouldn't be cutting medicaid, snap, and HUD.
He wants fear and trauma so he’s trying to get the homeless off the streets??
Some of you are so brainwashed that you can’t even think logically about issues. You have liberals on here criticizing sending homeless people to the hospitals for medical assistance. It’s like left wing people arguing that illegals should be able to remain for low wage jobs (farm workers for example). Since when do liberals want to take advantage of American workers? Since when do you want people living on the streets?
Homelessness is a big problem, much worse here than other countries and I welcome ideas about what to do about it.
How about a house for them? Staffed with people who will make sure they take their meds and feed them MAHA sanctioned food.
A 72 hour hold does nothing. Sending them to an ER isn’t helpful.
How about funding mental health beds so everyone who needs care can access it.
We have “billions in tariff funds”. Great- use it to help those who need it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apologies if this should be in the 7 nights of action thread but it seems like a topic worthy of separate attention and discussion.
This is just insane.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2025/08/11/dc-ag-warns-involuntary-commitments-dc-trump-homeless/
You want mentally ill people staying on the streets?
+1
DP: You guys have never studied or worked on the streets with this issue at all. Think this through. Where are they going to go? Is there room? Who is paying for it? Is there enough money? What if they don't want to stay there?
What about the homeless who have already begun the long and difficult process of getting help by establishing relationships with volunteers on the streets who are earning their trust and working through the system to get that person available help? What happens when the person is arrested and moved to God knows where and cannot be found by the trained professional person they used to trust? They are back behind square 1.
Why are they homeless? What has been done to change the conditions that put them on the streets in the first place? Who is actually doing the work to solve those problems and who is making it impossible to address those problems?
IF Trump actually cares about these people, why isn't he asking the folks who work this issue for a living what resources they actually need to help this population?
Because he doesn't care -- he doesn't want to help them; he wants them gone. He just doesn't want to see tents on the way to his golf course.
This. A 72 hour psych hold will accomplish nothing except more fear and trauma. Which I suppose is Trump's goal.
If he cared about poverty and homelessness, he certainly wouldn't be cutting medicaid, snap, and HUD.
He wants fear and trauma so he’s trying to get the homeless off the streets??
Some of you are so brainwashed that you can’t even think logically about issues. You have liberals on here criticizing sending homeless people to the hospitals for medical assistance. It’s like left wing people arguing that illegals should be able to remain for low wage jobs (farm workers for example). Since when do liberals want to take advantage of American workers? Since when do you want people living on the streets?
Homelessness is a big problem, much worse here than other countries and I welcome ideas about what to do about it.
Yes, he wants to create fear and trauma among homeless people.
We know how to address homelessness -- affordable housing, no barrier substance abuse treatment, mental health care available but not forced, a harm reduction model toward drug use. What does 72 hours in a crowded ER accomplish? Especially when it is likely to be uncompensated care, stretching safety net hospitals even more.
Except we’ve been trying that for decades and it hasn’t helped. Either go to treatment or go to jail.
I am all for harm reduction. We should supply clean needles and clean drugs, as much as they want. I am sure they will make the right choice and taper off, or find a job now that they have enough "medication" to treat their mental illness.
We should give them a lethal dosage of their preferred drug.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apologies if this should be in the 7 nights of action thread but it seems like a topic worthy of separate attention and discussion.
This is just insane.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2025/08/11/dc-ag-warns-involuntary-commitments-dc-trump-homeless/
You want mentally ill people staying on the streets?
+1
DP: You guys have never studied or worked on the streets with this issue at all. Think this through. Where are they going to go? Is there room? Who is paying for it? Is there enough money? What if they don't want to stay there?
What about the homeless who have already begun the long and difficult process of getting help by establishing relationships with volunteers on the streets who are earning their trust and working through the system to get that person available help? What happens when the person is arrested and moved to God knows where and cannot be found by the trained professional person they used to trust? They are back behind square 1.
Why are they homeless? What has been done to change the conditions that put them on the streets in the first place? Who is actually doing the work to solve those problems and who is making it impossible to address those problems?
IF Trump actually cares about these people, why isn't he asking the folks who work this issue for a living what resources they actually need to help this population?
Because he doesn't care -- he doesn't want to help them; he wants them gone. He just doesn't want to see tents on the way to his golf course.
This. A 72 hour psych hold will accomplish nothing except more fear and trauma. Which I suppose is Trump's goal.
If he cared about poverty and homelessness, he certainly wouldn't be cutting medicaid, snap, and HUD.
He wants fear and trauma so he’s trying to get the homeless off the streets??
Some of you are so brainwashed that you can’t even think logically about issues. You have liberals on here criticizing sending homeless people to the hospitals for medical assistance. It’s like left wing people arguing that illegals should be able to remain for low wage jobs (farm workers for example). Since when do liberals want to take advantage of American workers? Since when do you want people living on the streets?
Homelessness is a big problem, much worse here than other countries and I welcome ideas about what to do about it.
Yes, he wants to create fear and trauma among homeless people.
We know how to address homelessness -- affordable housing, no barrier substance abuse treatment, mental health care available but not forced, a harm reduction model toward drug use. What does 72 hours in a crowded ER accomplish? Especially when it is likely to be uncompensated care, stretching safety net hospitals even more.
Except we’ve been trying that for decades and it hasn’t helped. Either go to treatment or go to jail.
I am all for harm reduction. We should supply clean needles and clean drugs, as much as they want. I am sure they will make the right choice and taper off, or find a job now that they have enough "medication" to treat their mental illness.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apologies if this should be in the 7 nights of action thread but it seems like a topic worthy of separate attention and discussion.
This is just insane.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2025/08/11/dc-ag-warns-involuntary-commitments-dc-trump-homeless/
You want mentally ill people staying on the streets?
+1
DP: You guys have never studied or worked on the streets with this issue at all. Think this through. Where are they going to go? Is there room? Who is paying for it? Is there enough money? What if they don't want to stay there?
What about the homeless who have already begun the long and difficult process of getting help by establishing relationships with volunteers on the streets who are earning their trust and working through the system to get that person available help? What happens when the person is arrested and moved to God knows where and cannot be found by the trained professional person they used to trust? They are back behind square 1.
Why are they homeless? What has been done to change the conditions that put them on the streets in the first place? Who is actually doing the work to solve those problems and who is making it impossible to address those problems?
IF Trump actually cares about these people, why isn't he asking the folks who work this issue for a living what resources they actually need to help this population?
Because he doesn't care -- he doesn't want to help them; he wants them gone. He just doesn't want to see tents on the way to his golf course.
This. A 72 hour psych hold will accomplish nothing except more fear and trauma. Which I suppose is Trump's goal.
If he cared about poverty and homelessness, he certainly wouldn't be cutting medicaid, snap, and HUD.
He wants fear and trauma so he’s trying to get the homeless off the streets??
Some of you are so brainwashed that you can’t even think logically about issues. You have liberals on here criticizing sending homeless people to the hospitals for medical assistance. It’s like left wing people arguing that illegals should be able to remain for low wage jobs (farm workers for example). Since when do liberals want to take advantage of American workers? Since when do you want people living on the streets?
Homelessness is a big problem, much worse here than other countries and I welcome ideas about what to do about it.
Yes, he wants to create fear and trauma among homeless people.
We know how to address homelessness -- affordable housing, no barrier substance abuse treatment, mental health care available but not forced, a harm reduction model toward drug use. What does 72 hours in a crowded ER accomplish? Especially when it is likely to be uncompensated care, stretching safety net hospitals even more.
Except we’ve been trying that for decades and it hasn’t helped. Either go to treatment or go to jail.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apologies if this should be in the 7 nights of action thread but it seems like a topic worthy of separate attention and discussion.
This is just insane.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2025/08/11/dc-ag-warns-involuntary-commitments-dc-trump-homeless/
You want mentally ill people staying on the streets?
+1
DP: You guys have never studied or worked on the streets with this issue at all. Think this through. Where are they going to go? Is there room? Who is paying for it? Is there enough money? What if they don't want to stay there?
What about the homeless who have already begun the long and difficult process of getting help by establishing relationships with volunteers on the streets who are earning their trust and working through the system to get that person available help? What happens when the person is arrested and moved to God knows where and cannot be found by the trained professional person they used to trust? They are back behind square 1.
Why are they homeless? What has been done to change the conditions that put them on the streets in the first place? Who is actually doing the work to solve those problems and who is making it impossible to address those problems?
IF Trump actually cares about these people, why isn't he asking the folks who work this issue for a living what resources they actually need to help this population?
Because he doesn't care -- he doesn't want to help them; he wants them gone. He just doesn't want to see tents on the way to his golf course.
This. A 72 hour psych hold will accomplish nothing except more fear and trauma. Which I suppose is Trump's goal.
If he cared about poverty and homelessness, he certainly wouldn't be cutting medicaid, snap, and HUD.
He wants fear and trauma so he’s trying to get the homeless off the streets??
Some of you are so brainwashed that you can’t even think logically about issues. You have liberals on here criticizing sending homeless people to the hospitals for medical assistance. It’s like left wing people arguing that illegals should be able to remain for low wage jobs (farm workers for example). Since when do liberals want to take advantage of American workers? Since when do you want people living on the streets?
Homelessness is a big problem, much worse here than other countries and I welcome ideas about what to do about it.
Yes, he wants to create fear and trauma among homeless people.
We know how to address homelessness -- affordable housing, no barrier substance abuse treatment, mental health care available but not forced, a harm reduction model toward drug use. What does 72 hours in a crowded ER accomplish? Especially when it is likely to be uncompensated care, stretching safety net hospitals even more.
Except we’ve been trying that for decades and it hasn’t helped. Either go to treatment or go to jail.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apologies if this should be in the 7 nights of action thread but it seems like a topic worthy of separate attention and discussion.
This is just insane.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2025/08/11/dc-ag-warns-involuntary-commitments-dc-trump-homeless/
You want mentally ill people staying on the streets?
+1
DP: You guys have never studied or worked on the streets with this issue at all. Think this through. Where are they going to go? Is there room? Who is paying for it? Is there enough money? What if they don't want to stay there?
What about the homeless who have already begun the long and difficult process of getting help by establishing relationships with volunteers on the streets who are earning their trust and working through the system to get that person available help? What happens when the person is arrested and moved to God knows where and cannot be found by the trained professional person they used to trust? They are back behind square 1.
Why are they homeless? What has been done to change the conditions that put them on the streets in the first place? Who is actually doing the work to solve those problems and who is making it impossible to address those problems?
IF Trump actually cares about these people, why isn't he asking the folks who work this issue for a living what resources they actually need to help this population?
Because he doesn't care -- he doesn't want to help them; he wants them gone. He just doesn't want to see tents on the way to his golf course.
This. A 72 hour psych hold will accomplish nothing except more fear and trauma. Which I suppose is Trump's goal.
If he cared about poverty and homelessness, he certainly wouldn't be cutting medicaid, snap, and HUD.
He wants fear and trauma so he’s trying to get the homeless off the streets??
Some of you are so brainwashed that you can’t even think logically about issues. You have liberals on here criticizing sending homeless people to the hospitals for medical assistance. It’s like left wing people arguing that illegals should be able to remain for low wage jobs (farm workers for example). Since when do liberals want to take advantage of American workers? Since when do you want people living on the streets?
Homelessness is a big problem, much worse here than other countries and I welcome ideas about what to do about it.