Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 12:08     Subject: Pre service week

At new teacher orientation at my school today, i learned that we have to sign in and out in the main office every day at my school so they know exactly when everyone is in the building. I think its a good thing but i am sure some teachers hate it.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 11:46     Subject: Pre service week

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Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?


Yes. First, I’m busy enough to fill a full week.

But also, going back to not being treated like professionals, they monitor our comings and goings. They often plan a 2:30 meeting and take attendance to make sure we stay. (During one professional day that we had to be in the building recently, they rang the bell at the end of the day and made and announcement giving us permission to leave)



Leadership failure. So tired of being treated worse than the students. They can’t control them so they control us.


A lot of it is also because some teachers whine about inequities of time. For example it’s not fair if the specials teachers don’t have as much to set up as they do, but why do they get to leave earlier than me? So the admin tries to keep the whiny teachers at peace by doing things like this.


I love that they force us to stay in the building until 3:00 even if I’m done, but no one cares that some days I’m there until after 5. Make it make sense.


As a teacher, I do not claim this energy. Do you not think other professionals are forced to clock in and out based on an 8 hour day regardless of the amount of work they have? Please don't make us look bad. Happy to stay 8 hours when I'm being paid 8 hours. Plan ahead, make copies, make use of your time.


I’m PP and a career changer. In my corporate jobs no one charged me an hour of leave if I left early for an appointment or something. I didn’t regularly leave before 5 but if I needed to there were no hoops to jump through because they know I was usually there after 5 and always met my deadlines.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 11:26     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?


Yes. First, I’m busy enough to fill a full week.

But also, going back to not being treated like professionals, they monitor our comings and goings. They often plan a 2:30 meeting and take attendance to make sure we stay. (During one professional day that we had to be in the building recently, they rang the bell at the end of the day and made and announcement giving us permission to leave)



Leadership failure. So tired of being treated worse than the students. They can’t control them so they control us.


A lot of it is also because some teachers whine about inequities of time. For example it’s not fair if the specials teachers don’t have as much to set up as they do, but why do they get to leave earlier than me? So the admin tries to keep the whiny teachers at peace by doing things like this.


I love that they force us to stay in the building until 3:00 even if I’m done, but no one cares that some days I’m there until after 5. Make it make sense.


As a teacher, I do not claim this energy. Do you not think other professionals are forced to clock in and out based on an 8 hour day regardless of the amount of work they have? Please don't make us look bad. Happy to stay 8 hours when I'm being paid 8 hours. Plan ahead, make copies, make use of your time.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 10:37     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?


Yes. First, I’m busy enough to fill a full week.

But also, going back to not being treated like professionals, they monitor our comings and goings. They often plan a 2:30 meeting and take attendance to make sure we stay. (During one professional day that we had to be in the building recently, they rang the bell at the end of the day and made and announcement giving us permission to leave)



Leadership failure. So tired of being treated worse than the students. They can’t control them so they control us.


A lot of it is also because some teachers whine about inequities of time. For example it’s not fair if the specials teachers don’t have as much to set up as they do, but why do they get to leave earlier than me? So the admin tries to keep the whiny teachers at peace by doing things like this.


I love that they force us to stay in the building until 3:00 even if I’m done, but no one cares that some days I’m there until after 5. Make it make sense.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 10:34     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?


Yes. First, I’m busy enough to fill a full week.

But also, going back to not being treated like professionals, they monitor our comings and goings. They often plan a 2:30 meeting and take attendance to make sure we stay. (During one professional day that we had to be in the building recently, they rang the bell at the end of the day and made and announcement giving us permission to leave)



Leadership failure. So tired of being treated worse than the students. They can’t control them so they control us.


A lot of it is also because some teachers whine about inequities of time. For example it’s not fair if the specials teachers don’t have as much to set up as they do, but why do they get to leave earlier than me? So the admin tries to keep the whiny teachers at peace by doing things like this.


Are Specials teachers willing to help out a teacher set up/get ready?
Do teachers want Specials teachers help if they are willing to assist?


Are classroom teachers willing to help out a specials teachers with concerts and evening showcases and extra cleaning and supplies management?

Each job has a different work flow and busy times. Let us all be adults and manage our own schedules and professional development.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 09:31     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?


Yes. First, I’m busy enough to fill a full
But also, going back to not being treated like professionals, they monitor our comings and goings. They often plan a 2:30 meeting and take attendance to make sure we stay. (During one professional day that we had to be in the building recently, they rang the bell at the end of the day and made and announcement giving us permission to leave)



Leadership failure. So tired of being treated worse than the students. They can’t control them so they control us.


Are most principals Type A personalities?



Some are. Most have failed up. Truly have no idea how to manage adults. MCPS admin training is all in house so ineffective management is insidious. I’m from the outside world so I’ve had both. I’ve seen bosses demoted for less than what MCPS admin do.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 09:19     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?


Yes. First, I’m busy enough to fill a full week.

But also, going back to not being treated like professionals, they monitor our comings and goings. They often plan a 2:30 meeting and take attendance to make sure we stay. (During one professional day that we had to be in the building recently, they rang the bell at the end of the day and made and announcement giving us permission to leave)



Leadership failure. So tired of being treated worse than the students. They can’t control them so they control us.


A lot of it is also because some teachers whine about inequities of time. For example it’s not fair if the specials teachers don’t have as much to set up as they do, but why do they get to leave earlier than me? So the admin tries to keep the whiny teachers at peace by doing things like this.


Are Specials teachers willing to help out a teacher set up/get ready?
Do teachers want Specials teachers help if they are willing to assist?
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 09:12     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?


Yes. First, I’m busy enough to fill a full week.

But also, going back to not being treated like professionals, they monitor our comings and goings. They often plan a 2:30 meeting and take attendance to make sure we stay. (During one professional day that we had to be in the building recently, they rang the bell at the end of the day and made and announcement giving us permission to leave)



Leadership failure. So tired of being treated worse than the students. They can’t control them so they control us.


A lot of it is also because some teachers whine about inequities of time. For example it’s not fair if the specials teachers don’t have as much to set up as they do, but why do they get to leave earlier than me? So the admin tries to keep the whiny teachers at peace by doing things like this.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 09:04     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?


Yes. First, I’m busy enough to fill a full week.

But also, going back to not being treated like professionals, they monitor our comings and goings. They often plan a 2:30 meeting and take attendance to make sure we stay. (During one professional day that we had to be in the building recently, they rang the bell at the end of the day and made and announcement giving us permission to leave)



Leadership failure. So tired of being treated worse than the students. They can’t control them so they control us.


Are most principals Type A personalities?
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 08:56     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?


Yes. First, I’m busy enough to fill a full week.

But also, going back to not being treated like professionals, they monitor our comings and goings. They often plan a 2:30 meeting and take attendance to make sure we stay. (During one professional day that we had to be in the building recently, they rang the bell at the end of the day and made and announcement giving us permission to leave)



Leadership failure. So tired of being treated worse than the students. They can’t control them so they control us.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 06:08     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?


Yes. First, I’m busy enough to fill a full week.

But also, going back to not being treated like professionals, they monitor our comings and goings. They often plan a 2:30 meeting and take attendance to make sure we stay. (During one professional day that we had to be in the building recently, they rang the bell at the end of the day and made and announcement giving us permission to leave)
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2025 22:53     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:In our middle school, the PTA arranged for student volunteers who helped the teachers to set up their classroom. They got SSL hours for that.

We also asked teachers to let us know their supplies wishlist, and created a signup sheet for parents to donate those supplies and interestingly many parents would donate on the first day of school.

Our PTA was not a rich PTA, but usually they were well organized and they made things happen based solely on informing the parents in advance about what was needed and sending signup genius notices. People donated food for teacher's breakfast and lunch, supplies for classrooms etc.


Nice!
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2025 22:52     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?


It's a work week?
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2025 22:21     Subject: Pre service week

In our middle school, the PTA arranged for student volunteers who helped the teachers to set up their classroom. They got SSL hours for that.

We also asked teachers to let us know their supplies wishlist, and created a signup sheet for parents to donate those supplies and interestingly many parents would donate on the first day of school.

Our PTA was not a rich PTA, but usually they were well organized and they made things happen based solely on informing the parents in advance about what was needed and sending signup genius notices. People donated food for teacher's breakfast and lunch, supplies for classrooms etc.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2025 22:11     Subject: Pre service week

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What time do you typically leave during preservice week?


At the regular end of the duty day. I’m in a high school, so that’s 3:00.


Even during pre week?