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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands

If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one

It's pretty easy to find a partner in college or grad school. They are at similar places in life. There are commonalities in intelligence, ambition, and values. And it's easy to meet people in a stress-free, non-dating environment. It's all very natural.

Nothing about post-25 dating is natural in 2025. The apps were interesting for a brief minute. But now its some mega-corporation that owns all the apps, and their only interest is money. So that's done. Me Too, which was very necessary, had a big impact. But now it's only the high-risk tolerance men asking a colleague out for coffee or a drink. The blow back for a rejection is potentially career-ending. It used to be normal to meet people at work. Not today. The more ambitious people are not dating anyone in the office.

People also aren't having dinner parties these days. Which is a sad loss.

So where are people over the age of 25 supposed to go if they want to meet a partner and have a family? Before anyone says it - Church is not the place. And volunteering and so on seems forced. The people that are really there to help the puppies are often there because they really want to help the puppies - and not deal with flirty newcomers.

I think the biggest problem in modern dating is that there isn't a natural, organic space for people to meet and get to know each other outside some forced dating construct. Sports is probably the best. I do believe this explains the otherwise very mysterious rise of Pickleball.

It's an odd time. Post 25 men are quick to check out. And post 25 women get hungrier to find a partner. And we don't we have a great social world presently to find a balance.

As satire goes, this is pretty good. Lamenting the loss of dinner parties. The great pickleball conspiracy. Good stuff, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands

If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one

It's pretty easy to find a partner in college or grad school. They are at similar places in life. There are commonalities in intelligence, ambition, and values. And it's easy to meet people in a stress-free, non-dating environment. It's all very natural.

Nothing about post-25 dating is natural in 2025. The apps were interesting for a brief minute. But now its some mega-corporation that owns all the apps, and their only interest is money. So that's done. Me Too, which was very necessary, had a big impact. But now it's only the high-risk tolerance men asking a colleague out for coffee or a drink. The blow back for a rejection is potentially career-ending. It used to be normal to meet people at work. Not today. The more ambitious people are not dating anyone in the office.

People also aren't having dinner parties these days. Which is a sad loss.

So where are people over the age of 25 supposed to go if they want to meet a partner and have a family? Before anyone says it - Church is not the place. And volunteering and so on seems forced. The people that are really there to help the puppies are often there because they really want to help the puppies - and not deal with flirty newcomers.

I think the biggest problem in modern dating is that there isn't a natural, organic space for people to meet and get to know each other outside some forced dating construct. Sports is probably the best. I do believe this explains the otherwise very mysterious rise of Pickleball.

It's an odd time. Post 25 men are quick to check out. And post 25 women get hungrier to find a partner. And we don't we have a great social world presently to find a balance.

As satire goes, this is pretty good. Lamenting the loss of dinner parties. The great pickleball conspiracy. Good stuff, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:My father holds an MBA from Stanford and is now an Executive VP at Vingroup. He married my mother, a George Mason graduate with a degree in International Relations, shortly before I was born—she chose to be a stay-at-home mom. His first marriage was to a high-powered career woman, but it ended in less than a year. He always says my mother brings him peace; there’s no drama when he comes home. Given how much he earns, he’s made it clear he doesn’t need—or want—the stress of a “boss b****” (his phrasing, not mine).

Yikes, you’re taking advice from a divorced misogynist? Not the flex you think it is.

Anonymous wrote:I don't even know what high quality even means to the UMC white lady crowd. The men and women making your chipotle burritos are probably higher quality than you are anyway.

Anonymous wrote:They care because they are frustrated by the fact they have alr to offer and yet men either aren't approaching them or just dropped out of the dating market.

Anonymous wrote:Why do women focus on men and their dating issues? Why do women care? I'm seeing these articles in NY times WPost and it always boils down to men's struggles in the dating market. Why do women care especially since they are not the issue? I don't get it

Anonymous wrote:Why do women focus on men and their dating issues? Why do women care? I'm seeing these articles in NY times WPost and it always boils down to men's struggles in the dating market. Why do women care especially since they are not the issue? I don't get it

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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands

If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one

This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look.

Uh, men "like" looking at strippers and egirls and will pay to look at them, but they don't want to be married to that.

Generally men don't look at OF girls with botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Why would they when there are plenty of young OF girls without all that gross stuff?

Anonymous wrote:Consider that you may be hyperfocusing on these issues. I subscribe to the NYT and the WaPo, read them daily, and somehow miss all those things. When you look for something, you're bound to find it, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands

If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one

It's pretty easy to find a partner in college or grad school. They are at similar places in life. There are commonalities in intelligence, ambition, and values. And it's easy to meet people in a stress-free, non-dating environment. It's all very natural.

Nothing about post-25 dating is natural in 2025. The apps were interesting for a brief minute. But now its some mega-corporation that owns all the apps, and their only interest is money. So that's done. Me Too, which was very necessary, had a big impact. But now it's only the high-risk tolerance men asking a colleague out for coffee or a drink. The blow back for a rejection is potentially career-ending. It used to be normal to meet people at work. Not today. The more ambitious people are not dating anyone in the office.

People also aren't having dinner parties these days. Which is a sad loss.

So where are people over the age of 25 supposed to go if they want to meet a partner and have a family? Before anyone says it - Church is not the place. And volunteering and so on seems forced. The people that are really there to help the puppies are often there because they really want to help the puppies - and not deal with flirty newcomers.

I think the biggest problem in modern dating is that there isn't a natural, organic space for people to meet and get to know each other outside some forced dating construct. Sports is probably the best. I do believe this explains the otherwise very mysterious rise of Pickleball.

It's an odd time. Post 25 men are quick to check out. And post 25 women get hungrier to find a partner. And we don't we have a great social world presently to find a balance.

Anonymous wrote:Finding a man becomes exponentially harder once one doesn’t need one, like me.

It was easy to find a husband when I needed one to have a family (or, perceived that I did due to societal expectations to marry before procreating).

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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands

If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one

This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look.

Uh, men "like" looking at strippers and egirls and will pay to look at them, but they don't want to be married to that.

Generally men don't look at OF girls with botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Why would they when there are plenty of young OF girls without all that gross stuff?

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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands

If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one