Anonymous
Post 08/04/2025 23:21     Subject: 80 Years Since Hiroshima & Nagasaki

Back from the Brink offers details about Nuclear Prayer Day, video messages by elected officials, and a link for writing to your members of Congress in support of a comprehensive nuclear disarmament framework.

https://preventnuclearwar.org/dc-nuclear-prayer-day-vigil-2025/


Anonymous
Post 08/04/2025 23:16     Subject: 80 Years Since Hiroshima & Nagasaki

If you are near Washington, DC, join the Nuclear Prayer Day interfaith vigil on Aug. 6 at 6pm at the United Methodist Building next to the Supreme Court, an easy walk from Union Station.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2025 23:09     Subject: Re:80 Years Since Hiroshima & Nagasaki

Anonymous wrote:Israel should do the same with Gaza.

FAFO


Honestly?
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2025 22:35     Subject: Re:80 Years Since Hiroshima & Nagasaki

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.


The Japanese were not going to surrender after the bombings. They were planning on bring troops back from China to continue to fight. That hope ended when 1.5 million Russians invade Manchuria on August 9th. The Russian rolled over the Japanese in Manchuria. The night of August 14-15 before the emperor was going to surrender a coup known as the Kyūjō Incident stormed the palace to stop the surrender.


There is a famous Japanese fighter pilot who survived the war. He has said he and most others would have done the same thing. It was war. The Japanese killed over 30 million civilians during the war.

Remember the fire bombing kill many times more vs the atomic bombs. The estimated for the firebombing are 250,000 to 900,000.
Hiroshima Nagasaki atomic bombings
Pre-raid population 255,000 195,000
Dead 66,000 39,000
Injured 69,000 25,000
Vs
The firebombing of Tokyo on March 9-10, 1945, is estimated to have killed between 80,000 and 100,000 people and left about a million homeless.
Does it really matter if you died because of a nuclear bomb detonation or burn to death in a firestorm?

An invasion of Japan casualty estimates. Allied 250,00 to million military with 5-10 million Japanese(military and civilian). This does not include the wide spread famine that would have started by September/October of 1945. That would have been another 7-10 million by the end of 1946. This was only avoided by the US shipping massive amounts of food in after surrender. The ruling military class did not give a sh#t about the Japanese civilians.

Yes - all true.

It is also true we had a 3rd atom bomb ready to go:

Anonymous
Post 08/04/2025 21:47     Subject: Re:80 Years Since Hiroshima & Nagasaki

Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.


Not being a historian, and having gotten fed one account of the Japs (from the American perspective, of course), I highly, highly doubt every Japanese was prepared to fight to the death. The Japanese people were as much at the mercy of their government as we are currently at the mercy of our government, or the Russian public is at the mercy of a rabidly insane Putin. I think it's best to state that we wanted to end the far in order to save American lives. That's a fair reason.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2025 21:03     Subject: 80 Years Since Hiroshima & Nagasaki

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why bombing 1 town was not enough and it had to be 2.
Some hardheaded punks need two fists upside the head to get the message of “cease and desist”.


The Japanese were basically the MAGAs of the time. History can teach us the solutions to current problems, if only we pay attention. A few nukes dropped on maga strongholds like Idaho and Oklahoma and various places in Florida would do a lot of good.


You are sick. Know this: you are far worse than any “MAGA”.


Simmer down. Obviously PP is kidding. No one is this stupid.