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Anonymous wrote:Here are the current as of 8/7 GS ratings of FCPS high schools:

TJ 10
Langley 9
McLean 9
West Springfield 9
Woodson 9
Chantilly 8
Lake Braddock 8
Madison 8
Oakton 8
South County 7
Marshall 7
Robinson 7
Westfield 6
Fairfax 6
Hayfield 6
South Lakes 6
West Potomac 5
Centreville 5
Edison 4
Lewis 4
Annandale 3
Herndon 3
Falls Church 2
Justice 2
Mount Vernon 2

Come back in a few months and the scores will vary widely because they tweaked their methodology again. The best way to keep getting attention is to change the ratings periodically.

I mean, if you viewed the score more as a range of +/- 1, the list is fairly close to how most honest people would rank the schools.

These track pretty well with ESL %. Certainly the top and bottom. Remember what the root cause is that is driving many people to avoid certain schools (even if they refuse to admit it). And driving the extreme fear of boundary changes.

Good point to keep in mind that the root cause is wanting your child to get the best education possible. Sometimes people pretend like there is something sinister afoot, but that’s really the first principle.

But you have to ask yourself - why aren't the FCPS schools more alike? Why can't my child get the same education at Lewis that they can get at West Springfield?

Just because they are close?. But that’s a naive question. Not that close. It’s the difference in houses near them, and who lives in them and what the houses cost, how much the parents living in them earn which seems to have a co-relation to how much invested they are in their kids becoming big earners and hence supplementing education at home. We all know except for a few genius kids, in most cases it’s the parents’ time and money investments that leads to higher academic achievement.

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Anonymous wrote:Public schools systems have to re-draw their boundary maps every so often. It happens in large systems. Somebody will have to move.

Some pyramids are “better” because they have wealthier families. The lower rated schools have more low income students. It is that simple.

We’re in a low ranked district, and my kids do well because we support them with outside help when needed, and they don’t have to work during the school year, just like families in the top ranked schools.

How do low income students perform in wealthier schools? Are their scores any better because they attend a top school? Does anybody here have that info? Is it the school or is it the family support that influence the student’s success?

The Timber Lane families who want to stay at McLean rather than get moved to Falls Church (it’s a Title I school) pointed to statistics showing that the low-income kids at Longfellow/McLean performed better on standardized tests than the low-income kids at Jackson/Falls Church.

Excellent news. This tells us it is time to move more ESOL low income kids to those 8+ rated schools.

Not necessarily opposed to that, but if you think this is great news, you better believe that the converse is true, which means nobody should be moved out of a good school.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at niche.

Niche is not a real rankung system.

It just uses opinions, not test scores.

No one who is genuinely concerned with schools while house hunting would ever consider Niche.

Huh! Niche is not, greatschools is not. Maybe USN. There is no other.

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Anonymous wrote:Public schools systems have to re-draw their boundary maps every so often. It happens in large systems. Somebody will have to move.

Some pyramids are “better” because they have wealthier families. The lower rated schools have more low income students. It is that simple.

We’re in a low ranked district, and my kids do well because we support them with outside help when needed, and they don’t have to work during the school year, just like families in the top ranked schools.

How do low income students perform in wealthier schools? Are their scores any better because they attend a top school? Does anybody here have that info? Is it the school or is it the family support that influence the student’s success?

The Timber Lane families who want to stay at McLean rather than get moved to Falls Church (it’s a Title I school) pointed to statistics showing that the low-income kids at Longfellow/McLean performed better on standardized tests than the low-income kids at Jackson/Falls Church.

Excellent news. This tells us it is time to move more ESOL low income kids to those 8+ rated schools.

Anonymous wrote:Public schools systems have to re-draw their boundary maps every so often. It happens in large systems. Somebody will have to move.

Some pyramids are “better” because they have wealthier families. The lower rated schools have more low income students. It is that simple.

We’re in a low ranked district, and my kids do well because we support them with outside help when needed, and they don’t have to work during the school year, just like families in the top ranked schools.

How do low income students perform in wealthier schools? Are their scores any better because they attend a top school? Does anybody here have that info? Is it the school or is it the family support that influence the student’s success?

The Timber Lane families who want to stay at McLean rather than get moved to Falls Church (it’s a Title I school) pointed to statistics showing that the low-income kids at Longfellow/McLean performed better on standardized tests than the low-income kids at Jackson/Falls Church.

Public schools systems have to re-draw their boundary maps every so often. It happens in large systems. Somebody will have to move.

Some pyramids are “better” because they have wealthier families. The lower rated schools have more low income students. It is that simple.

We’re in a low ranked district, and my kids do well because we support them with outside help when needed, and they don’t have to work during the school year, just like families in the top ranked schools.

How do low income students perform in wealthier schools? Are their scores any better because they attend a top school? Does anybody here have that info? Is it the school or is it the family support that influence the student’s success?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the current as of 8/7 GS ratings of FCPS high schools:

TJ 10
Langley 9
McLean 9
West Springfield 9
Woodson 9
Chantilly 8
Lake Braddock 8
Madison 8
Oakton 8
South County 7
Marshall 7
Robinson 7
Westfield 6
Fairfax 6
Hayfield 6
South Lakes 6
West Potomac 5
Centreville 5
Edison 4
Lewis 4
Annandale 3
Herndon 3
Falls Church 2
Justice 2
Mount Vernon 2

Come back in a few months and the scores will vary widely because they tweaked their methodology again. The best way to keep getting attention is to change the ratings periodically.

I mean, if you viewed the score more as a range of +/- 1, the list is fairly close to how most honest people would rank the schools.

These track pretty well with ESL %. Certainly the top and bottom. Remember what the root cause is that is driving many people to avoid certain schools (even if they refuse to admit it). And driving the extreme fear of boundary changes.

Good point to keep in mind that the root cause is wanting your child to get the best education possible. Sometimes people pretend like there is something sinister afoot, but that’s really the first principle.

But you have to ask yourself - why aren't the FCPS schools more alike? Why can't my child get the same education at Lewis that they can get at West Springfield?

Well, most constituents just want to be able to choose their pyramid and have predictability and reliability without the school board trying to tear their communities apart with social engineering.

So, no, I don’t have to ask myself that question.

By why did you CHOOSE your pyramid in the first place? I am not knocking your choice (which I can assume to not be one of the lower ranked schools), I am just pointing to the why some of the schools are ranked so low (and why you likely did not pick one of them).

ESL % by School, Least to Most.

That is not a typo for TJ.

The top and bottom do line up pretty well against the Great School scores. Having a single digit ESL % equates to the highest Great Schools numbers, having a number over 25 (and certainly over 30) equates to the lowest Great School numbers.

TJ, 0.1
Langley, 3.62
Robinson, 4.81
West Springfield, 5.03
Madison, 6.11
McLean, 6.71
South County, 6.9
Woodson, 7.07
Oakton, 7.71
Lake Braddock, 7.87
Chantilly, 9.81
Hayfield, 10.03
Marshall, 15.89
Centreville, 15.96
Westfield, 16.27
South Lakes, 16.67
Fairfax, 17.45
Edison, 18.17
West Potomac, 21.11
Mt. Vernon, 25.23
Herndon, 31.45
Annandale, 35.51
Lewis, 37.4
Falls Church, 37.54
Justice, 41.07

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the current as of 8/7 GS ratings of FCPS high schools:

TJ 10
Langley 9
McLean 9
West Springfield 9
Woodson 9
Chantilly 8
Lake Braddock 8
Madison 8
Oakton 8
South County 7
Marshall 7
Robinson 7
Westfield 6
Fairfax 6
Hayfield 6
South Lakes 6
West Potomac 5
Centreville 5
Edison 4
Lewis 4
Annandale 3
Herndon 3
Falls Church 2
Justice 2
Mount Vernon 2

Come back in a few months and the scores will vary widely because they tweaked their methodology again. The best way to keep getting attention is to change the ratings periodically.

I mean, if you viewed the score more as a range of +/- 1, the list is fairly close to how most honest people would rank the schools.

These track pretty well with ESL %. Certainly the top and bottom. Remember what the root cause is that is driving many people to avoid certain schools (even if they refuse to admit it). And driving the extreme fear of boundary changes.

Good point to keep in mind that the root cause is wanting your child to get the best education possible. Sometimes people pretend like there is something sinister afoot, but that’s really the first principle.

But you have to ask yourself - why aren't the FCPS schools more alike? Why can't my child get the same education at Lewis that they can get at West Springfield?

Well, most constituents just want to be able to choose their pyramid and have predictability and reliability without the school board trying to tear their communities apart with social engineering.

So, no, I don’t have to ask myself that question.

Anonymous wrote:Look at niche.

Niche is not a real rankung system.

It just uses opinions, not test scores.

No one who is genuinely concerned with schools while house hunting would ever consider Niche.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the current as of 8/7 GS ratings of FCPS high schools:

TJ 10
Langley 9
McLean 9
West Springfield 9
Woodson 9
Chantilly 8
Lake Braddock 8
Madison 8
Oakton 8
South County 7
Marshall 7
Robinson 7
Westfield 6
Fairfax 6
Hayfield 6
South Lakes 6
West Potomac 5
Centreville 5
Edison 4
Lewis 4
Annandale 3
Herndon 3
Falls Church 2
Justice 2
Mount Vernon 2

Come back in a few months and the scores will vary widely because they tweaked their methodology again. The best way to keep getting attention is to change the ratings periodically.

I mean, if you viewed the score more as a range of +/- 1, the list is fairly close to how most honest people would rank the schools.

These track pretty well with ESL %. Certainly the top and bottom. Remember what the root cause is that is driving many people to avoid certain schools (even if they refuse to admit it). And driving the extreme fear of boundary changes.

Good point to keep in mind that the root cause is wanting your child to get the best education possible. Sometimes people pretend like there is something sinister afoot, but that’s really the first principle.

But you have to ask yourself - why aren't the FCPS schools more alike? Why can't my child get the same education at Lewis that they can get at West Springfield?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the current as of 8/7 GS ratings of FCPS high schools:

TJ 10
Langley 9
McLean 9
West Springfield 9
Woodson 9
Chantilly 8
Lake Braddock 8
Madison 8
Oakton 8
South County 7
Marshall 7
Robinson 7
Westfield 6
Fairfax 6
Hayfield 6
South Lakes 6
West Potomac 5
Centreville 5
Edison 4
Lewis 4
Annandale 3
Herndon 3
Falls Church 2
Justice 2
Mount Vernon 2

Come back in a few months and the scores will vary widely because they tweaked their methodology again. The best way to keep getting attention is to change the ratings periodically.

I mean, if you viewed the score more as a range of +/- 1, the list is fairly close to how most honest people would rank the schools.

These track pretty well with ESL %. Certainly the top and bottom. Remember what the root cause is that is driving many people to avoid certain schools (even if they refuse to admit it). And driving the extreme fear of boundary changes.

Good point to keep in mind that the root cause is wanting your child to get the best education possible. Sometimes people pretend like there is something sinister afoot, but that’s really the first principle.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the current as of 8/7 GS ratings of FCPS high schools:

TJ 10
Langley 9
McLean 9
West Springfield 9
Woodson 9
Chantilly 8
Lake Braddock 8
Madison 8
Oakton 8
South County 7
Marshall 7
Robinson 7
Westfield 6
Fairfax 6
Hayfield 6
South Lakes 6
West Potomac 5
Centreville 5
Edison 4
Lewis 4
Annandale 3
Herndon 3
Falls Church 2
Justice 2
Mount Vernon 2

Come back in a few months and the scores will vary widely because they tweaked their methodology again. The best way to keep getting attention is to change the ratings periodically.

I mean, if you viewed the score more as a range of +/- 1, the list is fairly close to how most honest people would rank the schools.

These track pretty well with ESL %. Certainly the top and bottom. Remember what the root cause is that is driving many people to avoid certain schools (even if they refuse to admit it). And driving the extreme fear of boundary changes.

+100

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the current as of 8/7 GS ratings of FCPS high schools:

TJ 10
Langley 9
McLean 9
West Springfield 9
Woodson 9
Chantilly 8
Lake Braddock 8
Madison 8
Oakton 8
South County 7
Marshall 7
Robinson 7
Westfield 6
Fairfax 6
Hayfield 6
South Lakes 6
West Potomac 5
Centreville 5
Edison 4
Lewis 4
Annandale 3
Herndon 3
Falls Church 2
Justice 2
Mount Vernon 2

Come back in a few months and the scores will vary widely because they tweaked their methodology again. The best way to keep getting attention is to change the ratings periodically.

I mean, if you viewed the score more as a range of +/- 1, the list is fairly close to how most honest people would rank the schools.

These track pretty well with ESL %. Certainly the top and bottom. Remember what the root cause is that is driving many people to avoid certain schools (even if they refuse to admit it). And driving the extreme fear of boundary changes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the current as of 8/7 GS ratings of FCPS high schools:

TJ 10
Langley 9
McLean 9
West Springfield 9
Woodson 9
Chantilly 8
Lake Braddock 8
Madison 8
Oakton 8
South County 7
Marshall 7
Robinson 7
Westfield 6
Fairfax 6
Hayfield 6
South Lakes 6
West Potomac 5
Centreville 5
Edison 4
Lewis 4
Annandale 3
Herndon 3
Falls Church 2
Justice 2
Mount Vernon 2

Come back in a few months and the scores will vary widely because they tweaked their methodology again. The best way to keep getting attention is to change the ratings periodically.

I find that very very hard to believe for West Springfield.

Seriously!! But niche lists Langley #4 (anathema!!). I do agree with west Springfield, barely in the top 10 list.