Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 17:01     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to a Reddit economics post something like 88% of all new jobs went to immigrants the last few years. There is a lot to unpack with a statement like that but obviously that is going to drop with this administration. We are already seeing that happening.


Was this Reddit post backed up by any links to actual data? Where is the proof of the 88% number.


Do you doubt it. You can figure it out with the back of the envelope calculation. Each year over a million people came to the US most of which are working age males. They all got jobs. There were only five million jobs added to the economy in that time. Most of them went to immigrants.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 15:37     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to a Reddit economics post something like 88% of all new jobs went to immigrants the last few years. There is a lot to unpack with a statement like that but obviously that is going to drop with this administration. We are already seeing that happening.


Was this Reddit post backed up by any links to actual data? Where is the proof of the 88% number.
The government reports native born employment and foreign born employment.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 14:19     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:According to a Reddit economics post something like 88% of all new jobs went to immigrants the last few years. There is a lot to unpack with a statement like that but obviously that is going to drop with this administration. We are already seeing that happening.


Was this Reddit post backed up by any links to actual data? Where is the proof of the 88% number.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 13:51     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
According to a Reddit economics post something like 88% of all new jobs went to immigrants the last few years. There is a lot to unpack with a statement like that but obviously that is going to drop with this administration. We are already seeing that happening.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 13:49     Subject: Re:Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:So what is the actual detailed explanation for why such a drastic revision?


Small and medium sized businesses report more slowly than the big companies. Small and medium sized companies are also much more quickly affected by changes in the economy since they have more narrow procurement compared to big companies with large networks and long term purchasing contracts. Also, gov’t positions reported months ago didn’t match with actual payroll tax collected from gov’t workers indicating actual job numbers were lower.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 13:01     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do those jobs reports account for immigrants going home? If not, that is extra reason to fire BLS and DOL.


The jobs number don’t but the unemployment rate reflects immigrants leaving/being deported. It stayed at 4.2%, despite weak jobs number because there are fewer people looking for work.

Would an undocumented immigrant be entitled to unemployment. And if not, they would have never been counted in the numbers to begin with, soo not sure your statement is accurate.


No, they are not entitled to any federal programs. They are not in the system. But if they are using fake SSN's to gain employment, then their withholding is going into the system, so everyone else is benefiting from their participation, even if they never will.


They don't have to use fake SSNs. They can use TINs
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 13:00     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do those jobs reports account for immigrants going home? If not, that is extra reason to fire BLS and DOL.


The jobs number don’t but the unemployment rate reflects immigrants leaving/being deported. It stayed at 4.2%, despite weak jobs number because there are fewer people looking for work.

Would an undocumented immigrant be entitled to unemployment. And if not, they would have never been counted in the numbers to begin with, soo not sure your statement is accurate.


Unemployment rate is not the same as UI applications rate. Undocumented people will be counted as part of the labor force (payroll numbers, for example). They are not eligible for UI.

BLS:
Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the government uses the number of people collecting unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under state or federal government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.

Other people think that the government counts every unemployed person each month. To do this, every home in the country would have to be contacted—just as in the population census every 10 years. This procedure would cost way too much and take far too long to produce the data. In addition, people would soon grow tired of having a census taker contact them every month, year after year, to ask about job-related activities.

Because unemployment insurance records relate only to people who have applied for such benefits, and since it is impractical to count every unemployed person each month, the government conducts a monthly survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country. The CPS has been conducted in the United States every month since 1940, when it began as a Work Projects Administration program. In 1942, the U.S. Census Bureau took over responsibility for the CPS. The survey has been expanded and modified several times since then. In 1994, for instance, the CPS underwent a major redesign in order to computerize the interview process as well as to obtain more comprehensive and relevant information.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 12:56     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:My industry is laying people off.



Tons of industries are as well. It is impossible to plan with costs changing constantly. Companies cannot predict costs, sales, and therefore staffing needs.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 12:30     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do those jobs reports account for immigrants going home? If not, that is extra reason to fire BLS and DOL.


The jobs number don’t but the unemployment rate reflects immigrants leaving/being deported. It stayed at 4.2%, despite weak jobs number because there are fewer people looking for work.

Would an undocumented immigrant be entitled to unemployment. And if not, they would have never been counted in the numbers to begin with, soo not sure your statement is accurate.


No, they are not entitled to any federal programs. They are not in the system. But if they are using fake SSN's to gain employment, then their withholding is going into the system, so everyone else is benefiting from their participation, even if they never will.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 12:21     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
My industry is laying people off.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 12:01     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do those jobs reports account for immigrants going home? If not, that is extra reason to fire BLS and DOL.


The jobs number don’t but the unemployment rate reflects immigrants leaving/being deported. It stayed at 4.2%, despite weak jobs number because there are fewer people looking for work.

Would an undocumented immigrant be entitled to unemployment. And if not, they would have never been counted in the numbers to begin with, soo not sure your statement is accurate.


Why are you confused? That is what he said. Unemployment rate didn't change, just like the number of jobs didn't really change 73,000 added. That would be consistent with the statistics above where 88% of jobs added over the past decade or so were immigrants.

Furthermore, many of the immigrants would be within the system. They're called legal immigrants. They totally track h-1b. I don't think h-1b collect unemployment, they just have to go home.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 06:34     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do those jobs reports account for immigrants going home? If not, that is extra reason to fire BLS and DOL.


The jobs number don’t but the unemployment rate reflects immigrants leaving/being deported. It stayed at 4.2%, despite weak jobs number because there are fewer people looking for work.

Would an undocumented immigrant be entitled to unemployment. And if not, they would have never been counted in the numbers to begin with, soo not sure your statement is accurate.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 01:08     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do those jobs reports account for immigrants going home? If not, that is extra reason to fire BLS and DOL.


The jobs number don’t but the unemployment rate reflects immigrants leaving/being deported. It stayed at 4.2%, despite weak jobs number because there are fewer people looking for work. [/quote

That doesn't make sense. If you look at new UI applications, that number excludes people not authorized to work. So if those people are leaving, unemployment and UI numbers should both go down because more jobs have become available.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2025 01:05     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These job reports include illegal immigrants.

Yes, jobs are “down.” It’s because illegal immigrants are leaving. Jobs for those of us here legally are up!


So the report isn’t fake? Trump was lying?


Then wouldn't UI initial applications go down? Unauthorized immigrants can't get UI. But those numbers are staying flat.

Also, Trump's detention and deportation numbers aren't high enough to account for such a low number of jobs added.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2025 15:56     Subject: Just 73,000 jobs added in July!
Anonymous wrote:Do those jobs reports account for immigrants going home? If not, that is extra reason to fire BLS and DOL.


The jobs number don’t but the unemployment rate reflects immigrants leaving/being deported. It stayed at 4.2%, despite weak jobs number because there are fewer people looking for work.