Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of the ask for extras is because schools want teachers to implement PBIS and then don't provide any of the materials to do so. A couple years ago my coworker was told she needed to provide a student with a specific type of candy as part of his behavior plan. The school did not provide the candy and neither did the student's parent. The teacher was told she had to provide the candy. Same with most of the other trinkets we're supposed to use for that system. I've had to set up Calming Corners before and was never given the funds for beanbag chairs, pillows, a rug, or any of the other stuff that went into the space.

I do not think calming corners are needed. Teachers buying candy for kids? what?!

I feel badly for teachers. Schools look like trash. My school is 30 years old and is just very beat up. The bathrooms have a permanent smell even. Teachers are trying to make up for the bad conditions with plush rugs, couches, chairs, stuffed animals everywhere and surfaces covered with cutesy phrases. It's basically like lipstick on a pig.

We had a decorating team at my office when we finished the build out. There was a color psychologist who we worked with. Our office is so nice now and truly isn't anything expensive. The finishes and colors used though make it seem very calming and high quality. We were told to never use white. Then I go to my kids trashy school and it's white cinder block walls, rotten ceiling tiles, fluorescent lights, and very dated bathrooms. The 8ft ceilings are what really feels oppressive though.

Maybe you should offer to pay for a color psychologist to visit the school, PP.

You know- we pay A LOT in taxes for these gross schools. It’s like 65% of our taxes. Is there some reason they never get updated or cleaned? Maybe if we cut out all the litigation fighting special needs families we could afford things.

My mom says that when she was a kid and they misbehaved, they had to pick weeds during detention. Not a bad idea considering my school doesn’t have a single flower or anything in any of the beds (and never has). The landscaping looks like it’s an abandoned building.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this "tacky" if they are using the supplies to benefit their classrooms? Do you suspect they are, like, reselling Mr. Sketch markers on the black market for a profit? If it was easier to get the supplies through their admin don't you think they'd do that?

I am an admin in higher education and I have access to a basically unlimited budget for supplies. If I spend my own money and get it reimbursed (which I approve because I'm in charge) it's easy and fast. If I go through the proper channels that do not require me to front money, then it can take WEEKS to receive what I need. That doesn't work for most teachers.

Most schools don't let teachers buy anything, quickly, with autonomy, even if they're wealthy. Somewhere there are allocations but more often than not they're centralized and timed or involve complicated request or grants from the PTA/PTO.

Being a teacher is hard if you are not wealthy or well off enough to get a box of markers or cardstock or books or snacks at will to support your teaching.

Because the “wish lists” are filled with a bunch of crap they don’t actually need.

Like what? Give us examples.

+1

NP OK I'll give examples!
-chairs and cushions for the classroom floor for kids to sit on
-bags of stuffed animals so each kid gets a "reading buddy"
-organizing bins for every single surface
-things to make fancy murals on each bulletin board
-framed art
-shelves
-mini fridge
-carpets
-prizes
-different themed decor every year

Things schools SHOULD provide but aren't:
-benches. My teacher last year bought benches for the playground because the alternative was that teachers stand the entire time or sit in the dirt.
-reams of paper
-tissues
-cleaning supplies
-soap
-whiteboard markers for teachers

Those are all appropriate. Who do you think pays for those things? Teachers. School system or school should pay and doesn’t.

Actually I think all of these things are totally unnecessary. There is soap in every bathroom and I’m sure it’s stocked in the janitorial closet should a teacher want to refill a dispenser for class (if there is a sink). The school also stocks bleach and spray bottles. The teacher doesn’t meant 20+ tubs of Clorox/Lysol wipes, those are expensive and wasteful. A spray bottle with 1:10 bleach and the brown paper towels are all that’s really needed. Tissues are not necessary, parents can send with their own child. Otherwise, they use brown paper towels. The school supplies black markers. Majority of work and teaching is done on Chromebook anyway

Bleach has a horrible smell and is costly. Why would you begrudge teachers wipes to clean?

Anonymous wrote:If the school is not paying for it, why should the teachers?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of the ask for extras is because schools want teachers to implement PBIS and then don't provide any of the materials to do so. A couple years ago my coworker was told she needed to provide a student with a specific type of candy as part of his behavior plan. The school did not provide the candy and neither did the student's parent. The teacher was told she had to provide the candy. Same with most of the other trinkets we're supposed to use for that system. I've had to set up Calming Corners before and was never given the funds for beanbag chairs, pillows, a rug, or any of the other stuff that went into the space.

I do not think calming corners are needed. Teachers buying candy for kids? what?!

I feel badly for teachers. Schools look like trash. My school is 30 years old and is just very beat up. The bathrooms have a permanent smell even. Teachers are trying to make up for the bad conditions with plush rugs, couches, chairs, stuffed animals everywhere and surfaces covered with cutesy phrases. It's basically like lipstick on a pig.

We had a decorating team at my office when we finished the build out. There was a color psychologist who we worked with. Our office is so nice now and truly isn't anything expensive. The finishes and colors used though make it seem very calming and high quality. We were told to never use white. Then I go to my kids trashy school and it's white cinder block walls, rotten ceiling tiles, fluorescent lights, and very dated bathrooms. The 8ft ceilings are what really feels oppressive though.

Maybe you should offer to pay for a color psychologist to visit the school, PP.

You know- we pay A LOT in taxes for these gross schools. It’s like 65% of our taxes. Is there some reason they never get updated or cleaned? Maybe if we cut out all the litigation fighting special needs families we could afford things.

My mom says that when she was a kid and they misbehaved, they had to pick weeds during detention. Not a bad idea considering my school doesn’t have a single flower or anything in any of the beds (and never has). The landscaping looks like it’s an abandoned building.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this "tacky" if they are using the supplies to benefit their classrooms? Do you suspect they are, like, reselling Mr. Sketch markers on the black market for a profit? If it was easier to get the supplies through their admin don't you think they'd do that?

I am an admin in higher education and I have access to a basically unlimited budget for supplies. If I spend my own money and get it reimbursed (which I approve because I'm in charge) it's easy and fast. If I go through the proper channels that do not require me to front money, then it can take WEEKS to receive what I need. That doesn't work for most teachers.

Most schools don't let teachers buy anything, quickly, with autonomy, even if they're wealthy. Somewhere there are allocations but more often than not they're centralized and timed or involve complicated request or grants from the PTA/PTO.

Being a teacher is hard if you are not wealthy or well off enough to get a box of markers or cardstock or books or snacks at will to support your teaching.

As a decent admin you’d make sure teachers have what they need in advance.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this "tacky" if they are using the supplies to benefit their classrooms? Do you suspect they are, like, reselling Mr. Sketch markers on the black market for a profit? If it was easier to get the supplies through their admin don't you think they'd do that?

I am an admin in higher education and I have access to a basically unlimited budget for supplies. If I spend my own money and get it reimbursed (which I approve because I'm in charge) it's easy and fast. If I go through the proper channels that do not require me to front money, then it can take WEEKS to receive what I need. That doesn't work for most teachers.

Most schools don't let teachers buy anything, quickly, with autonomy, even if they're wealthy. Somewhere there are allocations but more often than not they're centralized and timed or involve complicated request or grants from the PTA/PTO.

Being a teacher is hard if you are not wealthy or well off enough to get a box of markers or cardstock or books or snacks at will to support your teaching.

Because the “wish lists” are filled with a bunch of crap they don’t actually need.

Like what? Give us examples.

+1

NP OK I'll give examples!
-chairs and cushions for the classroom floor for kids to sit on
-bags of stuffed animals so each kid gets a "reading buddy"
-organizing bins for every single surface
-things to make fancy murals on each bulletin board
-framed art
-shelves
-mini fridge
-carpets
-prizes
-different themed decor every year

Things schools SHOULD provide but aren't:
-benches. My teacher last year bought benches for the playground because the alternative was that teachers stand the entire time or sit in the dirt.
-reams of paper
-tissues
-cleaning supplies
-soap
-whiteboard markers for teachers

Those are all appropriate. Who do you think pays for those things? Teachers. School system or school should pay and doesn’t.

Actually I think all of these things are totally unnecessary. There is soap in every bathroom and I’m sure it’s stocked in the janitorial closet should a teacher want to refill a dispenser for class (if there is a sink). The school also stocks bleach and spray bottles. The teacher doesn’t meant 20+ tubs of Clorox/Lysol wipes, those are expensive and wasteful. A spray bottle with 1:10 bleach and the brown paper towels are all that’s really needed. Tissues are not necessary, parents can send with their own child. Otherwise, they use brown paper towels. The school supplies black markers. Majority of work and teaching is done on Chromebook anyway

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of the ask for extras is because schools want teachers to implement PBIS and then don't provide any of the materials to do so. A couple years ago my coworker was told she needed to provide a student with a specific type of candy as part of his behavior plan. The school did not provide the candy and neither did the student's parent. The teacher was told she had to provide the candy. Same with most of the other trinkets we're supposed to use for that system. I've had to set up Calming Corners before and was never given the funds for beanbag chairs, pillows, a rug, or any of the other stuff that went into the space.

I do not think calming corners are needed. Teachers buying candy for kids? what?!

I feel badly for teachers. Schools look like trash. My school is 30 years old and is just very beat up. The bathrooms have a permanent smell even. Teachers are trying to make up for the bad conditions with plush rugs, couches, chairs, stuffed animals everywhere and surfaces covered with cutesy phrases. It's basically like lipstick on a pig.

We had a decorating team at my office when we finished the build out. There was a color psychologist who we worked with. Our office is so nice now and truly isn't anything expensive. The finishes and colors used though make it seem very calming and high quality. We were told to never use white. Then I go to my kids trashy school and it's white cinder block walls, rotten ceiling tiles, fluorescent lights, and very dated bathrooms. The 8ft ceilings are what really feels oppressive though.

Maybe you should offer to pay for a color psychologist to visit the school, PP.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of the ask for extras is because schools want teachers to implement PBIS and then don't provide any of the materials to do so. A couple years ago my coworker was told she needed to provide a student with a specific type of candy as part of his behavior plan. The school did not provide the candy and neither did the student's parent. The teacher was told she had to provide the candy. Same with most of the other trinkets we're supposed to use for that system. I've had to set up Calming Corners before and was never given the funds for beanbag chairs, pillows, a rug, or any of the other stuff that went into the space.

I do not think calming corners are needed. Teachers buying candy for kids? what?!

I feel badly for teachers. Schools look like trash. My school is 30 years old and is just very beat up. The bathrooms have a permanent smell even. Teachers are trying to make up for the bad conditions with plush rugs, couches, chairs, stuffed animals everywhere and surfaces covered with cutesy phrases. It's basically like lipstick on a pig.

We had a decorating team at my office when we finished the build out. There was a color psychologist who we worked with. Our office is so nice now and truly isn't anything expensive. The finishes and colors used though make it seem very calming and high quality. We were told to never use white. Then I go to my kids trashy school and it's white cinder block walls, rotten ceiling tiles, fluorescent lights, and very dated bathrooms. The 8ft ceilings are what really feels oppressive though.

Anonymous wrote:A lot of the ask for extras is because schools want teachers to implement PBIS and then don't provide any of the materials to do so. A couple years ago my coworker was told she needed to provide a student with a specific type of candy as part of his behavior plan. The school did not provide the candy and neither did the student's parent. The teacher was told she had to provide the candy. Same with most of the other trinkets we're supposed to use for that system. I've had to set up Calming Corners before and was never given the funds for beanbag chairs, pillows, a rug, or any of the other stuff that went into the space.

Anonymous wrote:If the school is not paying for it, why should the teachers?