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Anonymous wrote:You’re that person who is always on camera when everyone else is off?

God, I hate you, you obnoxious twit.

Why is this bad? Sometimes I'm all ready, camera on and nobody else turns theirs on. I try to find a time to turn it off naturally like when someone shares a document, but I think it's more awkward to be talking without it.

JFC. Read.The.Room. We've been doing this for years now since Covid and many of us for years and years before that, without video because that was less off a thing. It's a conference call. It's "bad" to be an outlier in any work circumstance, so you're definitely ticking people off left and right by being "that person" who is insisting on video and presentation when everyone else wants to get the work done and we don't give a crap if someone has perfectly applied eyeliner and a flippy blowout, it actually gives "my deliverables may be mid, but...pencil skirt" water cooler girl vibes. This is bordering on career here but I have like 50k in high end career wear and always do some hair and makeup, but insisting on camera to show this off is tone deaf and I'd show you the door.

NP. You are a weird angry person. You give a lot of credence to the idea that people who want cameras off all the time have social issues.

That post is about people who want cameras ON for every call....

No it's not- read it again. They have their camera on when they are speaking, as a courtesy. I have never heard of a company where they constantly pester everyone to turn cameras on. But someone on here is very angry at the person who decided to turn their camera ON -- it's weird. Now somebody who is never camera-ready, never has it on for important meetings with reactions, higher ups or when they are presenting-- that looks bad and everyone notices.

Anonymous wrote:I've teleworked, at least part-time, for the past 20 years. I feel no need to dress a certain way for my desk job. Think about it this way - did you need to "dress up" when you were a student to study for or take an exam? If you feel like "office wear" puts you in the mind-set to perform a certain set of tasks, then cool. I don't personally feel I need to dress in any particular way to perform at a high level. I wear whatever I feel like wearing on a given day - anything from a button down shirt and jeans to workout wear to a pretty dress.

Same here. I can’t relate to OP at all—I dress very casually, I manage a large team, and I’m on camera for all meetings—but I also think she should do what makes her comfortable/happy.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re that person who is always on camera when everyone else is off?

God, I hate you, you obnoxious twit.

Why is this bad? Sometimes I'm all ready, camera on and nobody else turns theirs on. I try to find a time to turn it off naturally like when someone shares a document, but I think it's more awkward to be talking without it.

JFC. Read.The.Room. We've been doing this for years now since Covid and many of us for years and years before that, without video because that was less off a thing. It's a conference call. It's "bad" to be an outlier in any work circumstance, so you're definitely ticking people off left and right by being "that person" who is insisting on video and presentation when everyone else wants to get the work done and we don't give a crap if someone has perfectly applied eyeliner and a flippy blowout, it actually gives "my deliverables may be mid, but...pencil skirt" water cooler girl vibes. This is bordering on career here but I have like 50k in high end career wear and always do some hair and makeup, but insisting on camera to show this off is tone deaf and I'd show you the door.

NP. You are a weird angry person. You give a lot of credence to the idea that people who want cameras off all the time have social issues.

That post is about people who want cameras ON for every call....

Yes. That means the poster thinks cameras should be offs

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Anonymous wrote:You’re that person who is always on camera when everyone else is off?

God, I hate you, you obnoxious twit.

Why is this bad? Sometimes I'm all ready, camera on and nobody else turns theirs on. I try to find a time to turn it off naturally like when someone shares a document, but I think it's more awkward to be talking without it.

JFC. Read.The.Room. We've been doing this for years now since Covid and many of us for years and years before that, without video because that was less off a thing. It's a conference call. It's "bad" to be an outlier in any work circumstance, so you're definitely ticking people off left and right by being "that person" who is insisting on video and presentation when everyone else wants to get the work done and we don't give a crap if someone has perfectly applied eyeliner and a flippy blowout, it actually gives "my deliverables may be mid, but...pencil skirt" water cooler girl vibes. This is bordering on career here but I have like 50k in high end career wear and always do some hair and makeup, but insisting on camera to show this off is tone deaf and I'd show you the door.

NP. You are a weird angry person. You give a lot of credence to the idea that people who want cameras off all the time have social issues.

That post is about people who want cameras ON for every call....

Well to lighten the mood, this reminds me of right after Covid and we were going back to the office and someone said they can't believe they have to wear hard pants again...and I lost it sldjfalskfdhalekthelkthalsk hal!!!

OP - let go a little but I will say this - the one benefit of doing what you're doing is that the weight creep from remote work is real and the reason why it "crept" up on a lot of us is because - leggings hello! You find comfort or joy in dressing up and that's okay. If anything, why not have fun with it and wear outfits outside of your comfort zone.

I'm pretty much a you do you person, but even I will admit that (to me) leggings all day everyday is part of the overall downfall of fashion. We're all very comfy and familiar with each other and go outside with pajamas on. On one hand I say that we should look like we want to look, but a bit of me is sad? nostalgic? for the days when we spiffed up a bit. There are ties to outward appearance and behavior/manners - studies have been done for kids and uniforms/dressup day, etc. but I'd bet that adults are the same.