Anonymous wrote:

Marginal difference. Why so sensitive about your school?

Sincerely,
Honors Graduate, Department of Statistics, University of Michigan

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Anonymous wrote:Our school has way more kids apply to Michigan than Notre Dame. Both are a tough admit. Notre Dame admits have higher grades (really need almost an UW 4.0) and Michigan has higher test scores.

Not sure where you are getting your information, but the CDS shows that ND has higher scores than Michigan every single year. For 2024-25:

ND:
SAT: 1470/1540
ACT: 33/35

Michigan:
SAT: 1360/1530
ACT: 31/34

Was getting the information from our school's naviance account. From our (public) school you need better grades for Notre Dame. Test scores for Michigan.

I didn't go to either, neither did my wife or kids. Just trying to help out.

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Anonymous wrote:Our school has way more kids apply to Michigan than Notre Dame. Both are a tough admit. Notre Dame admits have higher grades (really need almost an UW 4.0) and Michigan has higher test scores.

Not sure where you are getting your information, but the CDS shows that ND has higher scores than Michigan every single year. For 2024-25:

ND:
SAT: 1470/1540
ACT: 33/35

Michigan:
SAT: 1360/1530
ACT: 31/34

Pretty similar

If you consider the 91st percentile to be the same as the 98th, then yeah you’re right.

Marginal difference. Why so sensitive about your school?

It’s not a marginal difference at all. It’s the same difference between Michigan and Indiana U.

In terms of the academic profile of the admitted class, the University of Notre Dame is a more difficult admit than the University of Michigan.

However, the profile of the College of Engineering and Business (Ross) admits at UM would certainly be right there with the ND ranges.

Both are great schools, but it's apples and oranges. Ann Arbor > South Bend by a mile though.

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Anonymous wrote:Our school has way more kids apply to Michigan than Notre Dame. Both are a tough admit. Notre Dame admits have higher grades (really need almost an UW 4.0) and Michigan has higher test scores.

Not sure where you are getting your information, but the CDS shows that ND has higher scores than Michigan every single year. For 2024-25:

ND:
SAT: 1470/1540
ACT: 33/35

Michigan:
SAT: 1360/1530
ACT: 31/34

Pretty similar

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Anonymous wrote:I think very highly of ND, it’s downside is location, but positive to it is that it encourages a lot of community on campus especially with their dorm life which makes very engaged and loyal alumni. Mine didn’t choose it end, but I think it would have been a great experience. You sure saw that endowment on admit weekend though!

Mine didn't choose it at the end either. But, the school did do an awesome job on admit weekend. Seemed like a very kind environment. If my kid had decided on premed as his major, he definitely would have chosen ND. Their premed department seemed outstanding.

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Anonymous wrote:Our school has way more kids apply to Michigan than Notre Dame. Both are a tough admit. Notre Dame admits have higher grades (really need almost an UW 4.0) and Michigan has higher test scores.

Not sure where you are getting your information, but the CDS shows that ND has higher scores than Michigan every single year. For 2024-25:

ND:
SAT: 1470/1540
ACT: 33/35

Michigan:
SAT: 1360/1530
ACT: 31/34

Pretty similar

If you consider the 91st percentile to be the same as the 98th, then yeah you’re right.

Marginal difference. Why so sensitive about your school?

Thats not marginal. Those test score are not elite.

ND REA does not really have an advantage…you have all the athletes, priority legacy kids whose parents or grandparents give $$$ and the tippy top kids who are Ivy caliber but want Notre Dame for any given reason.

I think very highly of ND, it’s downside is location, but positive to it is that it encourages a lot of community on campus especially with their dorm life which makes very engaged and loyal alumni. Mine didn’t choose it end, but I think it would have been a great experience. You sure saw that endowment on admit weekend though!

I'd go with Michigan especially if a STEM field is your major. Unless it's premed, I'd go with Notre Dame.

Notre Dame is more prestigious, go with that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school has way more kids apply to Michigan than Notre Dame. Both are a tough admit. Notre Dame admits have higher grades (really need almost an UW 4.0) and Michigan has higher test scores.

Not sure where you are getting your information, but the CDS shows that ND has higher scores than Michigan every single year. For 2024-25:

ND:
SAT: 1470/1540
ACT: 33/35

Michigan:
SAT: 1360/1530
ACT: 31/34

Pretty similar

If you consider the 91st percentile to be the same as the 98th, then yeah you’re right.

Marginal difference. Why so sensitive about your school?

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Anonymous wrote:ND you are only competing with Catholics. And you are only going to school with Catholics. Some of my best friends are Catholic (and I have some good friends who went to ND). But no thanks. College is about meeting different people. Branching out.

+1

ND has been going downhill in recent years. I almost attended myself and have good friends who did. We definitely wouldn’t go there now in the current environment.

Lol ok. Since you wouldn’t go there it must be going downhill. That it’s consistently very high in the rankings, has an Ivy League level endowment, and is harder to get into year after year after year is irrelevant I suppose.

Agree Mich. solid chance ED
He’s not getting into ND, he’d be competing with similar scores or better, and he’s not coming from a feeder Catholic School.

Anonymous wrote:ND you are only competing with Catholics. And you are only going to school with Catholics. Some of my best friends are Catholic (and I have some good friends who went to ND). But no thanks. College is about meeting different people. Branching out.

+1

ND has been going downhill in recent years. I almost attended myself and have good friends who did. We definitely wouldn’t go there now in the current environment.