Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 22:31     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

Anonymous wrote:Only a handful of larger PVS teams have a proven track record of hosting these Champs meet. It absolutely begins and ends with the host team and TOLL and Henry T. absolutely dropped the ball on Friday night. Hopefully PVS is taking note.


Last week's fiasco was OCCS, and the same thing happened at spring champs scy, which was NCAP.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 22:30     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

This is such a bizarre/arcane way of doing things!
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 22:26     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

Only a handful of larger PVS teams have a proven track record of hosting these Champs meet. It absolutely begins and ends with the host team and TOLL and Henry T. absolutely dropped the ball on Friday night. Hopefully PVS is taking note.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 22:26     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

Yep this was my experience as well. Probably the worst I’ve had at UMD.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that at Junior/Senior champs last week volunteers who had their bands were allowed entry into the seating area during finals even if they were still looking for timers. They need to institute something like this at all these large meets because otherwise you are punishing people who step up and volunteer along with those that don’t. The expectation isn’t that you have to volunteer at every session. They are short timers tomorrow for the 13-14 prelim session and after Friday I really just have no desire to do anything further to help out at this meet.


I timed last weekend at Jr/Sr Champs. We had to return our “volunteer” badges at the end of the session. And we were not allowed into the spectator area of any session until they found enough timers. They kept us outside of the building in the heat. Not sure if coaches were timing or not at the beginning of sessions.

The “event” staff were hostile and rude last weekend too.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 22:15     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

^PP again. And good luck the rest of the weekend, tempers/attitudes seemed to flare more and more as the weekend went on.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 22:12     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that at Junior/Senior champs last week volunteers who had their bands were allowed entry into the seating area during finals even if they were still looking for timers. They need to institute something like this at all these large meets because otherwise you are punishing people who step up and volunteer along with those that don’t. The expectation isn’t that you have to volunteer at every session. They are short timers tomorrow for the 13-14 prelim session and after Friday I really just have no desire to do anything further to help out at this meet.


I timed last weekend at Jr/Sr Champs. We had to return our “volunteer” badges at the end of the session. And we were not allowed into the spectator area of any session until they found enough timers. They kept us outside of the building in the heat. Not sure if coaches were timing or not at the beginning of sessions.

The “event” staff were hostile and rude last weekend too.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 22:08     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that at Junior/Senior champs last week volunteers who had their bands were allowed entry into the seating area during finals even if they were still looking for timers. They need to institute something like this at all these large meets because otherwise you are punishing people who step up and volunteer along with those that don’t. The expectation isn’t that you have to volunteer at every session. They are short timers tomorrow for the 13-14 prelim session and after Friday I really just have no desire to do anything further to help out at this meet.


No, that is not accurate. No one was allowed in at all for Jr/Sr champs finals and they were clearing the building making people wait outside in the heat. No exceptions for anyone who already had volunteered multiple sessions.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 22:03     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

My understanding is that at Junior/Senior champs last week volunteers who had their bands were allowed entry into the seating area during finals even if they were still looking for timers. They need to institute something like this at all these large meets because otherwise you are punishing people who step up and volunteer along with those that don’t. The expectation isn’t that you have to volunteer at every session. They are short timers tomorrow for the 13-14 prelim session and after Friday I really just have no desire to do anything further to help out at this meet.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 21:56     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

There was an official not working the finals session on Friday who was also kept out of the seating area despite the fact that they are working multiple other sessions of the meet. The way Friday was handled was appalling.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 21:48     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent on deck Friday, I can attest it was the biggest single cluster that I have ever witnessed at a Champs event and PVS should be embarrassed by how it all went down. I witnessed one particular PVS official literally in glee saying how she proudly wasn’t letting any parents on the deck and was gloating how she was going to kick all parents out of the building. It was appalling. That particular official also started power tripping on deck with 800 parents, telling them they couldn’t leave and attempted to force them to time the whole session. I got her name and will be reporting her to the league. No official should act with that kind of complete contempt for parents who volunteer with timing constantly. The meet host was also way in over his head I’m in how to run a successful champs meet and it showed. Parents pay an exorbitant amount to these teams, volunteer around the clock, and work their tails off to get their kids to practices at all hours of the day. To rob them from watching their kids swim a finals champs race is downright wrong and PVS needs to find a better way.


How much are PVS officials paid?


They aren’t. I’m not working this meet, but as a PVS official I can assure you that we don’t get paid. We invest a lot of our time and money to help run PVS meets properly. Much of the equipment I’ve needed to properly pursue upper level certifications I have had to purchase out of my own pocket.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 21:30     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

Anonymous wrote:As a parent on deck Friday, I can attest it was the biggest single cluster that I have ever witnessed at a Champs event and PVS should be embarrassed by how it all went down. I witnessed one particular PVS official literally in glee saying how she proudly wasn’t letting any parents on the deck and was gloating how she was going to kick all parents out of the building. It was appalling. That particular official also started power tripping on deck with 800 parents, telling them they couldn’t leave and attempted to force them to time the whole session. I got her name and will be reporting her to the league. No official should act with that kind of complete contempt for parents who volunteer with timing constantly. The meet host was also way in over his head I’m in how to run a successful champs meet and it showed. Parents pay an exorbitant amount to these teams, volunteer around the clock, and work their tails off to get their kids to practices at all hours of the day. To rob them from watching their kids swim a finals champs race is downright wrong and PVS needs to find a better way.


How much are PVS officials paid?
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 21:21     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

Anonymous wrote:As a parent on deck Friday, I can attest it was the biggest single cluster that I have ever witnessed at a Champs event and PVS should be embarrassed by how it all went down. I witnessed one particular PVS official literally in glee saying how she proudly wasn’t letting any parents on the deck and was gloating how she was going to kick all parents out of the building. It was appalling. That particular official also started power tripping on deck with 800 parents, telling them they couldn’t leave and attempted to force them to time the whole session. I got her name and will be reporting her to the league. No official should act with that kind of complete contempt for parents who volunteer with timing constantly. The meet host was also way in over his head I’m in how to run a successful champs meet and it showed. Parents pay an exorbitant amount to these teams, volunteer around the clock, and work their tails off to get their kids to practices at all hours of the day. To rob them from watching their kids swim a finals champs race is downright wrong and PVS needs to find a better way.


Original poster: to clarify, the PVS official was gloating how she was keeping parents out if the stands (not deck).
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 21:15     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

As a parent on deck Friday, I can attest it was the biggest single cluster that I have ever witnessed at a Champs event and PVS should be embarrassed by how it all went down. I witnessed one particular PVS official literally in glee saying how she proudly wasn’t letting any parents on the deck and was gloating how she was going to kick all parents out of the building. It was appalling. That particular official also started power tripping on deck with 800 parents, telling them they couldn’t leave and attempted to force them to time the whole session. I got her name and will be reporting her to the league. No official should act with that kind of complete contempt for parents who volunteer with timing constantly. The meet host was also way in over his head I’m in how to run a successful champs meet and it showed. Parents pay an exorbitant amount to these teams, volunteer around the clock, and work their tails off to get their kids to practices at all hours of the day. To rob them from watching their kids swim a finals champs race is downright wrong and PVS needs to find a better way.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 21:15     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

Who is telling the staff to not let parents in? Is it the meet director telling the downstairs staff? Or are they just making their own decisions?
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 20:55     Subject: PVS Champa not letting parents in

+PVS