Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 02:11     Subject: CS is dead
Anonymous wrote:What about data science?

Depends. Most universities have propped up cash cow data science degrees that are total wastes of time. Good data scientists are trained in rigorous fields—math, stats, cs…the foundations of data science. Many are PhDs.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 02:06     Subject: Re:CS is dead
If CS is dead, your kid can go to any Ivy for Gender studies....

Lovely.

Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 02:03     Subject: CS is dead
What about data science?
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 01:59     Subject: CS is dead
Anonymous wrote:Just spent the weekend with a friend from college who is starting his third startup (sold last one to Intel for a fortune). He said, for his engineering, he hired three great engineers, who are all Argentinians working remotely from Argentina for very little. He said, even just a couple of years ago, he would have hired about 15 engineers, mostly in person. He said the difference is AI. He is moving faster and better with three engineers in Argentina and a contract for the high end version of Ai than he would have done a couple of trays ago. He told me that coding is over as a career and software engineers are all scared of more layoffs.

Definitely not a time to go into cs.


Why? If it's that labor saving, he can create and sell more start-ups faster.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2025 01:22     Subject: CS is dead
Just spent the weekend with a friend from college who is starting his third startup (sold last one to Intel for a fortune). He said, for his engineering, he hired three great engineers, who are all Argentinians working remotely from Argentina for very little. He said, even just a couple of years ago, he would have hired about 15 engineers, mostly in person. He said the difference is AI. He is moving faster and better with three engineers in Argentina and a contract for the high end version of Ai than he would have done a couple of trays ago. He told me that coding is over as a career and software engineers are all scared of more layoffs.

Definitely not a time to go into cs.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2025 22:30     Subject: CS is dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Funny story.

In 2002 my uncle said his wife's nephew quit CS field and went into something else because he is smart and know coding is dying. I disagreed with my uncle and said for good people there will be good jobs. That guy later married a Chinese women and moved with her to Singapore or somewhere. I don't think he did that well, my uncle hasn't bragged about him much for many years.


In 2010 my sister said her friend said CS is dying and her son better be electrical engineer, which he did. I told her do CS because there will be jobs for good people. He did find job as EE but struggled. Later he went to study data science and made a move into CS through that field, now he works for a Tech company in his mid 30s after struggling many years, but at least he found a way back.

English majors better than CS? lol. yeah.


Who do you think that the programmers report to? Hint, it's often not former coders.


Real programmers don't report to anyone. You write code and your code speaks for itself, you take ownership for it and once it's pushed out you go do whatever. You don't report to stupid management who don't understand code. They may think so, but those who can't write code have no power over those who can.

Anonymous
Post 07/18/2025 22:23     Subject: CS is dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Funny story.

In 2002 my uncle said his wife's nephew quit CS field and went into something else because he is smart and know coding is dying. I disagreed with my uncle and said for good people there will be good jobs. That guy later married a Chinese women and moved with her to Singapore or somewhere. I don't think he did that well, my uncle hasn't bragged about him much for many years.


In 2010 my sister said her friend said CS is dying and her son better be electrical engineer, which he did. I told her do CS because there will be jobs for good people. He did find job as EE but struggled. Later he went to study data science and made a move into CS through that field, now he works for a Tech company in his mid 30s after struggling many years, but at least he found a way back.

English majors better than CS? lol. yeah.


Who do you think that the programmers report to? Hint, it's often not former coders.


CS majors aren't just coders.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2025 22:11     Subject: CS is dead
CS majors are well equipped to leverage AI. No worries.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2025 22:07     Subject: CS is dead
Anonymous wrote:Love to see it.


Why?
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2025 22:07     Subject: CS is dead
Anonymous wrote:Funny story.

In 2002 my uncle said his wife's nephew quit CS field and went into something else because he is smart and know coding is dying. I disagreed with my uncle and said for good people there will be good jobs. That guy later married a Chinese women and moved with her to Singapore or somewhere. I don't think he did that well, my uncle hasn't bragged about him much for many years.


In 2010 my sister said her friend said CS is dying and her son better be electrical engineer, which he did. I told her do CS because there will be jobs for good people. He did find job as EE but struggled. Later he went to study data science and made a move into CS through that field, now he works for a Tech company in his mid 30s after struggling many years, but at least he found a way back.

English majors better than CS? lol. yeah.


Who do you think that the programmers report to? Hint, it's often not former coders.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2025 22:04     Subject: CS is dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are we still importing CS people on H1B?


We have to. 95% of American CS grads don't even come close to competing with the IIT grads from India.


1. That would be a relatively small number of grads so it wouldn't move the needle.
2. Demonstrably false as well

H1Bs in the valley are getting gutted right now but that is a different topic.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2025 21:49     Subject: CS is dead
Anonymous wrote:College is dead.


Yet families are dying trying to pay for it
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2025 21:47     Subject: CS is dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are we still importing CS people on H1B?


We have to. 95% of American CS grads dont even come close to competing with the IIT grads from India.

+1 American cs education is a joke. It’s been made way too easy to get a cs major


Even at top "ranked" CS programs
?
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2025 21:43     Subject: Re:CS is dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So who’s writing code to run AI?


+1

There will always be a human in the loop.

Wait until AGI. You humans are useless. Prepare for UBI..or worse.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2025 21:17     Subject: Re:CS is dead
Anonymous wrote:So who’s writing code to run AI?


+1

There will always be a human in the loop.