Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.
Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.
We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.
Not like the one with birds.
The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.
Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.
So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?
Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.
Cool, so you want to kill the cats?
Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.
KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE
That seems to be what pp is suggesting. The outdoor cat is already spayed/neutered. T&R programs are fantastic, and should be encouraged.
You can't make all the outdoor cats become indoor-only cats. That isn't going to work. PP has no solution except... "butbutbut think of the birds!"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.
Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.
We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.
Not like the one with birds.
The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.
Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.
So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?
Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.
Cool, so you want to kill the cats?
Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.
KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.
Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.
We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.
Not like the one with birds.
The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.
Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.
So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?
Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.
Cool, so you want to kill the cats?
Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.
Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.
We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.
Not like the one with birds.
The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.
Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.
So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?
Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.
Cool, so you want to kill the cats?
Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.
Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.
We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.
Not like the one with birds.
The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.
Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.
So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?
Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.
Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.
We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.
Not like the one with birds.
The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.
Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.
So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.
Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.
We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.
Not like the one with birds.
The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.
Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just how on earth do you expect an outdoor cat to become indoor only? That's not going to work.
It's fixed. That's the most important thing.
Humans do FAR worse to birds, than cats.
The fact that humans are bad for birds doesn’t mean we should not address the issue of cats. They’re predators! They’re just doing what comes naturally! And they’re very good at it!
Anonymous wrote:Just how on earth do you expect an outdoor cat to become indoor only? That's not going to work.
It's fixed. That's the most important thing.
Humans do FAR worse to birds, than cats.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.
Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.
We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.
Not like the one with birds.
The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.
Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.
We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.
Not like the one with birds.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.
Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.