This was predicted - through 1. long term climate models as an inevitable eventuality, with increasing statistical frequency due to human-caused climate change, as well as 2. immediate storm risk from the weather service, in the days and hours ahead of the actual storm event.

They were given every opportunity to prepare, through FEMA flood maps that told them the area was risky, which they shrugged off and dismissed as dumb liberal red tape, what's the harm, it's just a summer camp for kids - EXACTLY the issue, that it is a summer camp for kids - kids who would have a hard time being able to evacuate themselves from a flood.

They were offered funding to improve notification systems, but declined to spend it, because warning sirens are woke, or pansy nanny state crap for gays, or commie big government meant to control us, or whatever other inane garbage that rattles through the heads of Texas MAGAs.

Stop defending them. Stop shrugging this off. This was not "god's will" or "nobody could have forseen this" or "nobody could have prevented it" - it was totally preventable and is entirely the fault of irresponsible people making irresponsible decisions. And that needs to be made known, and it needs to change. Not just in Texas Hill Country, but all of America.

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Anonymous wrote:This is just a thinly veiled swipe at Christians. Take your idiotic trolling somewhere else.

+1 It's a very liberal forum.

Every liberal I know is more Christ-like than MAGA leaders and their cult. My priest agrees.

this. Every MAGA I know is unintelligent, crude, filled with hate even for their own children. It's a sick group to watch-zero empathy. I have cut MAGAs out.

Only the modern day low-IQ piece of turd Republicans and Democrats could steer a conversation about this tragedy into a mudslinging contest. I still love all of my fellow Americans but some of you are dulling that sentiment.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know but one of the parents of a child who died said ‘it was an act of God, they had no way of knowing this would happen’. But yes, they did.

I’m sickened

God didn't warn them.

NOAA did.

Think about who to trust.

They need to spell it NOAH to get through to these people.

THREAD WINNNER

Fun religion fact:

When God came to Abram and Sarai, he put H's in their names, to become Abraham and Sarah, to make them godly.

(The Hebrew name of God has H
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton )

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know but one of the parents of a child who died said ‘it was an act of God, they had no way of knowing this would happen’. But yes, they did.

I’m sickened

God didn't warn them.

NOAA did.

Think about who to trust.

They need to spell it NOAH to get through to these people.

THREAD WINNNER

Anonymous wrote:The ACTUAL Christian (Presbyterian) camp along the Guad, Mo Ranch, did evacuate people from the lowest cabins as soon as the warnings went out in the 1 AM hour.

This doesn't have anything to do with being Christian or not, so please stop. And please stop denigrating the parents who lost kids

Sadly, the loudest "Christians" are the antichrist white nationalists terrorizing and destroying the country.

(Same problem with the Zionist Jews.)

The ACTUAL Christian (Presbyterian) camp along the Guad, Mo Ranch, did evacuate people from the lowest cabins as soon as the warnings went out in the 1 AM hour.

This doesn't have anything to do with being Christian or not, so please stop. And please stop denigrating the parents who lost kids

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know but one of the parents of a child who died said ‘it was an act of God, they had no way of knowing this would happen’. But yes, they did.

I’m sickened

Link to this?

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Anonymous wrote:Southerners have been brainwashed for decades that government is bad and “outsiders” can’t be trusted. And it goes back even further in their history and psyche, but the GOP has taken advantage of it for their gain.

There’s a video of Kerr county officials saying they didn’t want to accept Biden’s $10 million because that would be “making a deal with the devil”. They decided to take it though because they “didn’t want California to get it”. But instead of spending it on preventing these deaths, they upgraded a perfectly fine radio system and gave a few raises.

Their decision killed those people. Their stubbornness and ignorance killed those people.

This is sadly predictable - have seen it so much in the small towns in my home state. It’s not the south but MAGA holds sway in these places though there are active Dem organizations. The little tax base they have goes towards the latest model police cars, a new fire station even though the last one was built 15 years prior (always built by the same construction family who live in the county), raises for county leaders/law enforcement but never for the frontline workers. They never spend money on afterschool programs for the kids who do not play sports, etc.

It’s a government jobs program, but the faces of those employed by it are the exact opposite of what Fox splashes on TV every night.

It’s cute that you don’t think firefighters and police are front line workers. I stopped reading after that comment. An alarm system similar to the Amber Alerts on phones would have cost very little. It was up to camp management to keep campers away from the flood since they banned counselors and campers from having phones.

DP...you missed the point. The jurisdiction used IRA money to give law enforcement a raise (ie the dems did not defund the police and note the GOP voted against this, thus supported defunding the police) but local leaders, instead of investing in infrastructure that could have mitigated the loss of life in this instance.

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Anonymous wrote:Southerners have been brainwashed for decades that government is bad and “outsiders” can’t be trusted. And it goes back even further in their history and psyche, but the GOP has taken advantage of it for their gain.

There’s a video of Kerr county officials saying they didn’t want to accept Biden’s $10 million because that would be “making a deal with the devil”. They decided to take it though because they “didn’t want California to get it”. But instead of spending it on preventing these deaths, they upgraded a perfectly fine radio system and gave a few raises.

Their decision killed those people. Their stubbornness and ignorance killed those people.

This is sadly predictable - have seen it so much in the small towns in my home state. It’s not the south but MAGA holds sway in these places though there are active Dem organizations. The little tax base they have goes towards the latest model police cars, a new fire station even though the last one was built 15 years prior (always built by the same construction family who live in the county), raises for county leaders/law enforcement but never for the frontline workers. They never spend money on afterschool programs for the kids who do not play sports, etc.

It’s a government jobs program, but the faces of those employed by it are the exact opposite of what Fox splashes on TV every night.

It’s cute that you don’t think firefighters and police are front line workers. I stopped reading after that comment. An alarm system similar to the Amber Alerts on phones would have cost very little. It was up to camp management to keep campers away from the flood since they banned counselors and campers from having phones.

"Camp Mystic Executive Director Richard “Dick” Eastland did not begin to evacuate the young campers asleep in cabins near the rapidly rising Guadalupe River for more than an hour after he received a severe flood warning on his phone from the National Weather Service at 1:14 a.m. on July 4, the family said through a spokesman."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2025/camp-mystic-alerts-texas-floods

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Anonymous wrote:This is just a thinly veiled swipe at Christians. Take your idiotic trolling somewhere else.

+1 It's a very liberal forum.

Christ was a liberal

Depends on your definition of liberal...he didn't say to keep on sinning or to judge others.

That’s all republicans do is sin and judge others.

Sounds as if you should be part of the judgmental group.

Anonymous wrote:Logically, that area is now safe for another 100 years.

100 years of flood history Guadalupe River.
The flood of July 2, 1932- crest 39.00 feet.
The flood of July 17, 1987- crest of 37.72 feet.
The flood on July 4, 2025- crest of 34.29 feet.

Major floods also occurred in 1972- 31 feet, 1978-31 feet, 1991 -30 feet and 1997. The 1998 flood was particularly significant downstream from Canyon Lake Dam.

The Guadalupe River basin has a history of devastating floods, earning the nickname "Flash Flood Alley".

Bottom line. No one could have predicted this.

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Anonymous wrote:This is just a thinly veiled swipe at Christians. Take your idiotic trolling somewhere else.

+1 It's a very liberal forum.

Every liberal I know is more Christ-like than MAGA leaders and their cult. My priest agrees.

this. Every MAGA I know is unintelligent, crude, filled with hate even for their own children. It's a sick group to watch-zero empathy. I have cut MAGAs out.

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Anonymous wrote:This is just a thinly veiled swipe at Christians. Take your idiotic trolling somewhere else.

+1 It's a very liberal forum.

Christ was a liberal

Depends on your definition of liberal...he didn't say to keep on sinning or to judge others.

That’s all republicans do is sin and judge others.

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Anonymous wrote:This is just a thinly veiled swipe at Christians. Take your idiotic trolling somewhere else.

+1 It's a very liberal forum.

Every liberal I know is more Christ-like than MAGA leaders and their cult. My priest agrees.

You are wrong.

You want to tell my priest that too?