Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 20:35     Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:WASP are not top 10. Get real. SLACs are not even considered by most families.

Why not? Most families don’t consider any of the top 10.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 20:34     Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We all know which schools are included in "Ivy."

We all know what schools are included in HYPMS.

So what are the maybe 2-3 schools not included in either of the above - if any? Cal Tech? What does T-10 even mean?


Here are the top ten according to USNWR: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities?_sort=rank&_sortDirection=asc

So, they add in Duke, Northwestern, U of Chicago into the Top 10.


+1

But OP already knew this.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 20:29     Subject: What schools are T-10?
WASP are not top 10. Get real. SLACs are not even considered by most families.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 20:15     Subject: Re:What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:It is also a stretch to call Cal Tech a national university; it has 2400 students, including grad students, and in that sense has more in common with Harvey Mudd than any of the schools on the list (Harvey Mudd being yet another top 20 or top 25 candidate).


+1000
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 20:06     Subject: Re:What schools are T-10?
Ranking of universities by DCUM = ranking of exclusivity. It's the size of the club that matters
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 19:41     Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:Not all ivys are T10 only. Dartmouth, Cornell, Brown are not T10.

Stanford
Harvard
MIT
Princeton
Yale
Upenn
Duke
UCHICAGO
Johns Hopkins
Columbia




This works, though many would put in Northwestern for Uchicago given the ED0/1/2 situation the latter uses to falsely boost "selectivity"
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 19:33     Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:Not all ivys are T10 only. Dartmouth, Cornell, Brown are not T10.

Stanford
Harvard
MIT
Princeton
Yale
Upenn
Duke
UCHICAGO
Johns Hopkins
Columbia




Def not Columbia!
Replace with Northwestern

Couldn’t give me a free Columbia education. That’s a dumpster fire.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 19:31     Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We all know which schools are included in "Ivy."

We all know what schools are included in HYPMS.

So what are the maybe 2-3 schools not included in either of the above - if any? Cal Tech? What does T-10 even mean?


Here are the top ten according to USNWR: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities?_sort=rank&_sortDirection=asc

So, they add in Duke, Northwestern, U of Chicago into the Top 10.


This
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 18:34     Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:HYPSM
Penn, Columbia, Brown, Duke, Caltech

No idea why people are discussing Rice, Williams, or Chicago


That's the Top 10 overall. Great list.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 18:32     Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:If Engineering, which is it's own island when it comes to prestige in it's field and subsequently jobs and $$$. The list is very different. Engineering is unique that way.


Engineering T15 based on peer group, career outcomes and research overlaps a lot with the overall top 15. Peer group matters. Some schools get rated higher on USnews but that does not take into account the peers.
MIT, Stanford, Caltech, UCB, Princeton, Penn, Cornell, Harvard, Northwestern, GT, CMU, UCLA, UIUC, Mich, UT
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 18:19     Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:HYPSM
Penn, Columbia, Brown, Duke, Caltech

No idea why people are discussing Rice, Williams, or Chicago

Chicago makes perfect sense. It is a highly cerebral place with awesome post grad success. Definitely deserves to be in the conversation. Rice is forgettable, and Williams? not even sure I know where or what it is.


Chicago is a good school. Certainly T25 or maybe T20. But T10? No. It's just not that selective. As PP pointed out, the ED0/1/2 and artificially high yield put it out of the running.


Not what it used to be. Definitely a T10 30, 40 years ago.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 18:15     Subject: Re:What schools are T-10?
It is also a stretch to call Cal Tech a national university; it has 2400 students, including grad students, and in that sense has more in common with Harvey Mudd than any of the schools on the list (Harvey Mudd being yet another top 20 or top 25 candidate).
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 18:09     Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:OP: no disrespect but LACs belong in a different grouping. I was thinking national universities.

It seems the only non-Ivy, non-HYPMS T-10 suggestions that don't elicit an immediate rebuke are CalTech and Duke.

I think a lot of people would like to believe maybe 10 other universities are also T-10.

You are not US News. Kids apply to both. A couple SLACs are arguably in the back end of the top 10.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 18:06     Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Hopkins, Chicago, Rice, Vanderbilt, NW, Amherst, Williams all are contenders for T10.


Vanderbilt? Rice? C'mon.

Like really!
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 18:04     Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:HYPSM
Penn, Columbia, Brown, Duke, Caltech

No idea why people are discussing Rice, Williams, or Chicago

Chicago makes perfect sense. It is a highly cerebral place with awesome post grad success. Definitely deserves to be in the conversation. Rice is forgettable, and Williams? not even sure I know where or what it is.


Chicago is a good school. Certainly T25 or maybe T20. But T10? No. It's just not that selective. As PP pointed out, the ED0/1/2 and artificially high yield put it out of the running.