Anonymous wrote:Beverly Daniel Tatum wrote a book about this.

Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?: And Other Conversations About Race
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Kids-Sitting-Together-Cafeteria/dp/0465060684#

Well? Why are they?

Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

Why are you still writing LatinX in 2025? Sounds to me like you are the one obsessed with race.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The separation is taught. Watch some 3 year olds play together. There's some natural curiosity about hair and skin color, but they are as gleeful to play with each other as with with kids that look more like them. It makes no difference for 3 year olds. If the black kids in high school or college are self-segregating, it's because that's what adults taught them to do. It's not natural. It's taught.

What are black parents teaching their children?

What are Black children experiencing around white children, white parents, white teachers and other white authority figures?
It should go within saying, but there is no monolithic Black community, and Black parents don’t have a manual to “teach” their children — although most do have to explain, earlier than they’d like, the realities of systemic racism. I agree — it IS taught. I just don’t agree that most of the “teaching” is coming from the Black parents.

PP, why are you singling out the Black kids here — when the OP described several different groups of kids? What do you think the White parents and the Asian parents are “teaching their children”?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, why do we have Howard University? People want to surround themselves with others that are like themselves. It's feels comfortable.

Are you serious? Because black people weren’t allowed to attend the “white” universities. That’s why it was founded.

+1. I may need to quit dcum. The ignorance is staggering.

+2
I'm at a loss for words.

Anonymous wrote:The separation is taught. Watch some 3 year olds play together. There's some natural curiosity about hair and skin color, but they are as gleeful to play with each other as with with kids that look more like them. It makes no difference for 3 year olds. If the black kids in high school or college are self-segregating, it's because that's what adults taught them to do. It's not natural. It's taught.

What are black parents teaching their children?

The separation is taught. Watch some 3 year olds play together. There's some natural curiosity about hair and skin color, but they are as gleeful to play with each other as with with kids that look more like them. It makes no difference for 3 year olds. If the black kids in high school or college are self-segregating, it's because that's what adults taught them to do. It's not natural. It's taught.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI created racist children. It was not like this 30 years ago. Thanks woke democrats!

Ha! 30 years ago I was in hs and it was this way. POCs have to codeswitch around white people. It's nice to just be yourself sometimes. I'm shocked you don't know this.

Such a ridiculous assertion. I guess saying "ask" instead of "aks" is codeswitching if you say so.

And this kind of racist nonsense is why folks spend time amongst themselves. Do you spend any time with POC? I bet no one even notices that you don't. I really can't believe we are back here in 2025.

Quite a bit. And I don't accuse them of codeswitching just because they don't conform to stereotypes that you picked up from TV.

You have no idea. And also, I don't believe you. I am a POC, so I speaker from lived experience, not anything on tv.

This seems exceedingly doubtful. You sound more like a good liberal who read White Fragility a few years ago for that one class. So now you work buzzwords like "codeswitching" and "POC" into your conversations and refer to homogeneous groups as "folks". We get it, you're a good person. Nice job.

Here’s what I noticed when I went to a majority white college. White students occasionally complained about what they called “the Black tables”. They didn’t complain about the football team tables or the drama student tables, or even the pre-meds who want to bond over organic chemistry tables. They didn’t complain about the Jewish tables or the students who ate at the Kosher Kitchen either. What I eventually realized was that the students who complained saw the other student groups as individuals who shared commonalities. They saw the Black students sitting together as “Black students sitting together” — and somehow felt threatened by this, yet rarely took the initiative to join in and share the table.

One of the reasons students segregate along racial lines is for the opportunity to interact with other students as individuals— instead of being someone else’s educational experience. It gets exhausting, especially when you’re treated as an anomaly by those who view themselves as somehow representing the default, ideal, or norm.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, why do we have Howard University? People want to surround themselves with others that are like themselves. It's feels comfortable.

Are you serious? Because black people weren’t allowed to attend the “white” universities. That’s why it was founded.

+1. I may need to quit dcum. The ignorance is staggering.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI created racist children. It was not like this 30 years ago. Thanks woke democrats!

Ha! 30 years ago I was in hs and it was this way. POCs have to codeswitch around white people. It's nice to just be yourself sometimes. I'm shocked you don't know this.

Such a ridiculous assertion. I guess saying "ask" instead of "aks" is codeswitching if you say so.

And this kind of racist nonsense is why folks spend time amongst themselves. Do you spend any time with POC? I bet no one even notices that you don't. I really can't believe we are back here in 2025.

Quite a bit. And I don't accuse them of codeswitching just because they don't conform to stereotypes that you picked up from TV.

You have no idea. And also, I don't believe you. I am a POC, so I speaker from lived experience, not anything on tv.

Anonymous wrote:Well, why do we have Howard University? People want to surround themselves with others that are like themselves. It's feels comfortable.

Are you serious? Because black people weren’t allowed to attend the “white” universities. That’s why it was founded.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI created racist children. It was not like this 30 years ago. Thanks woke democrats!

Ha! 30 years ago I was in hs and it was this way. POCs have to codeswitch around white people. It's nice to just be yourself sometimes. I'm shocked you don't know this.

Such a ridiculous assertion. I guess saying "ask" instead of "aks" is codeswitching if you say so.

And this kind of racist nonsense is why folks spend time amongst themselves. Do you spend any time with POC? I bet no one even notices that you don't. I really can't believe we are back here in 2025.

Quite a bit. And I don't accuse them of codeswitching just because they don't conform to stereotypes that you picked up from TV.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see this at my kids’ private school, but financial status has something to do with it also. The wealthier African-American kids integrate and are part of their friend groups. These kids live in the same neighborhoods, attended the same K-8 schools, vacation in the same spots, etc. as the white kids.

The African American kids who I presume are scholarship kids based on their addresses stick together.

I’ve assumed this has more to do with commonalities than race, but maybe I’m wrong.

Ok this is pathetic. These children make their friendships based on the ones who vacation in the same spots and live in the same neighborhoods? The lower income Black kids don’t hang out with the higher income Blacks? I think you don’t know what you’re talking about. And you didn’t mention White kids. Do they also choose their friends by vacation spots and financials?

Dp. Finances dictate a lot for kids of all races. Kids do activities or camps together and make friends there. Those friends find each other at school, and build overlapping social circles. But, most of those activities cost money.

Some activities are more diverse than others. Kids in band, for example, will be more diverse because it costs less to rent an instrument. Kids who meetup with other school friends at expensive camps, on the other hand, are going to meet kids whose parents can afford expensive camps.

Camps? Maybe as young kids. And maybe one or two. Otherwise kids do not rely on summer camp to make school friends. I guess I’m talking about older kids. When they start going to specialty summer programs. Mine go to specialty summer programs with kids from all over the country and out of the country.

Some kids go to sports programs, school programs, religious camps, a huge variety of camps. Income doesn’t come into play as much as talent does for a lot of these. The gifted athletes get the camps paid for. The super smart kids get camps at colleges paid for.

There will be ahole kids who take after their parents and judge people by their parent’s income. The ones who judge someone based on their zip code. But they are the minority and usually don’t end up doing anything of value in life.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI created racist children. It was not like this 30 years ago. Thanks woke democrats!

Ha! 30 years ago I was in hs and it was this way. POCs have to codeswitch around white people. It's nice to just be yourself sometimes. I'm shocked you don't know this.

Such a ridiculous assertion. I guess saying "ask" instead of "aks" is codeswitching if you say so.

And this kind of racist nonsense is why folks spend time amongst themselves. Do you spend any time with POC? I bet no one even notices that you don't. I really can't believe we are back here in 2025.

Anonymous wrote:Some do. People are tribal in their nature and teens specifically are deep into trying to figure out who they are and where they belong. Race is often (not always) a clear "tribe" for them and they want to explore that. For some it's really SES that's the commonality but not all understand this yet. People want to have people around them who understand them.

Exactly. Same at many churches where everyone can go where they want.