Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 11:05     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


The purpose want necessarily less Asians, it was racial balancing and THAT meant get Asians than would otherwise get in.


Except they added seats. It wasn’t zero sum.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 11:02     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.


The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.


What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.


It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.


Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.


Cite, proof?


Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?


DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 10:53     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

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Anonymous wrote:This was also the first class to be admitted without an entrance exam to weed out students who aren’t good at math.


Also, the first class to be admitted was one where 30% of the students didn't purchase early access to the entrance exam.


#backdoorKaren is back at it
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 21:43     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.


The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.


What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.


It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.


Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.


Cite, proof?


Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 15:55     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.


The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.


What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.


It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.


Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.


Cite, proof?
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 15:52     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.


The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.


What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.


Just because a student does not qualify for free lunch does not make that child wealthy. Asians work and can put food on the table. Not everyone is wealthy. Plenty of working class Asians.


Same thing just because a student qualified for farms and get into TJ doesn’t mean that kid is dumb and just a handout admission. That is what most poster try to say here, portraying that smart poor kids doesn’t exist.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 15:43     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.


The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.


What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.


It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.


Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.


I don't think that was it, but more that wealthy families began to figure out how to rig admissions again.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 10:29     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.


The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.


What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.


It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.


Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 23:49     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.


The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.


What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.


It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 23:48     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was also the first class to be admitted without an entrance exam to weed out students who aren’t good at math.


Also, the first class to be admitted was one where 30% of the students didn't purchase early access to the entrance exam.


It's funny how the news didn't cover how 30% of the students purchased the entrance exams. Is it possible you're just another racist that likes to imply that model minorities are successful because they cheat?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 23:46     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.


The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.


False, it's been repeatedly shown here that Asian enrollment is at a historic high, and low-income Asians were the largest beneficiary of the change.


That's just factually untrue.
Unless you are going back to when there weren't as many Asians around. Then sure, there was a time when TJ was majority white just 10-15 years ago. But compared to recent years the tend line was heading up and the population dropped after the new system was used.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 23:38     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


The purpose want necessarily less Asians, it was racial balancing and THAT meant get Asians than would otherwise get in.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 23:37     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

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Anonymous wrote:You all realize that a student who selected College X might have gotten into 10+ other schools, right? The destinations are in no way indicative of TJ admissions to colleges overall.


Of course it's indicative of where they got in.

Sure there are corner cases, but by and large it is pretty indicative of the best schools they got into.

You don't have 20 kids that are going to GMU that got into VT but just couldn't afford it. And they certainly didn't get into Ivy+.


You don’t know that. Kids apply for a variety of college, hoping to get in and get enough aid to attend. Maybe they get in but they don’t get the aid. Maybe they get i but their parents financial picture has changed and they can no longer afford it.

Maybe they choose GMU for cost purposes and because they need to be around to help take care of siblings or a family business.

Plenty of people realize that the prestige of the school is not the only reason to attend the school and have other criteria that they are looking at. The FARMs rate at TJ went up, so it makes sense that some kids would be looking for good colleges that are more affordable. The Ivies and other schools might not be affordable even with aid. You have to pay for books, housing, food, and other expenses. You can attend GMU and live at home.



For any individual, there are all sorts of factors that can come into play but when dealing with large groups, the law of large numbers starts to kick in and kids will select a good option over a less good option.

Perhaps there is a kid in there somewhere that picked GMU over VT but not many and there are NONE that picked GMU over any of the ivy+ schools. We lost a lot of kids going to top 20 schools and gained a lot of kids going to GMU. And we don't have as many poor kids as you think. We admitted 25% FARM but I doubt we have 15% in the graduating class. Many of them returned to their base school.

Once again, GMU is a good school but it's less good than VT, UVA or ivy+


If you cannot afford the Ivy and you don't want to rack up a ton f debt, you might choose GMU or VT or UVA. If you have family that you need to help, like watching siblings for working parents or helping with the family business, you might choose GMU.

No one is saying that GMU is equal in prestige or quality to an Ivy or VT or UVA but there are reasons for smart kids who graduate from any school to choose that path over the Ivy. Plenty of people understand that you don't have to have a degree from an Ivy to do well in life. It would be great but there are kids who could attend that cannot for other reasons.


This is clearly the exception. The population of kids that can only afford GMU but not UVA/VT and will not get aid at ivy+ is a small small population
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 21:27     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.


The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.


What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.


Just because a student does not qualify for free lunch does not make that child wealthy. Asians work and can put food on the table. Not everyone is wealthy. Plenty of working class Asians.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 16:54     Subject: TJ 2025 seniors destination

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?


Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.


The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.


What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.