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Anonymous wrote:We will get a large tax cut we don't need and didn't vote for. People will suffer because of it, and that hurts all of us.

Us too. But I’m going to donate every cent to progressive candidates to vote these @ssholes out.

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Anonymous wrote:We will get a large tax cut we don't need and didn't vote for. People will suffer because of it, and that hurts all of us.

Exactly.

We are also weirdly benefiting from the DOGE insanity but it’s still a horrible loss for all of us.

How?

Some cut work is still essential. Someone has to do it.

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Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.

Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.

Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.

Also, where are these 20 hour a week jobs? They aren't in every state. I know people who have been looking for months and not found something.

Also the requirement to constantly reapply will bog everything down is massive papework.

It will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.

My kid just got a 20-hour a week job yesterday as a cashier. He applied to three places, interviewed at two, and got a job - all within biking distance of our house- with zero work experience and with a 16 year old male’s executive function capabilities.

I’m not saying that all the people who need to meet these requirements will have the same experience but it’s not an impossible thing.

I agree that the requirement to constantly reapply will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.

Your anecdote isn’t the norm, despite your rationalization. At all. Kids the same age. Please read in major news outlets about college grads not getting jobs, their unemployment rate is significantly higher. Know adults looking for a year. Shut it!

The problem is that you damn well know that the definition of able-bodied is going to be forced by the politicians to include basically everyone who isn’t bedridden.

Health care should not be tied to employment.

Anonymous wrote:We will get a large tax cut we don't need and didn't vote for. People will suffer because of it, and that hurts all of us.

Us too. But I’m going to donate every cent to progressive candidates to vote these @ssholes out.

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Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.

Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.

Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.

And, the way this it will be implemented is to ACTUALLY make the paperwork so difficult that people who DO QUALIFY are not able to get through the red tape and are kicked off. Someone who is working multiple minimum wage jobs or is elderly or impaired in some way and may not have easy access to the internet, the hours required to complete the paperwork, or the days to wait on hold to get help doing the paperwork EVERY MONTH in order to continue to qualify even though they do.

Link to LAST WEEK TONIGHT that helps explain the problem with the requirements.

Doesn't every working adult with health insurance, as well as every senior, have to do a bunch of paperwork every year? The USA sets aside an entire month for it.

Nope. When I worked for a hospital that developed their own plan, all I had to do was check a box electing the plan. I don’t remember needing to do anything annual, since I elected to keep my plan at the same level. Similarly, while maybe it’s changed, as long as my Mom kept her plans the same, there wasn’t paperwork every year. The paperwork would only be a concern if she wanted to change something. Maybe this is something that has changed in the last several years?

To be honest, I can’t make sense of how this bill directly affects us. I don’t think it will help us but I’m not sure it will cost us either. My issue is that it will harm so many people in our community. And who benefits from that? The rich. It’s sick. People are so misinformed about who Medicaid serves. These are children, people with disabilities, and adults who work hard but can’t afford insurance. There’s so much money wasted in the bill too.

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Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.

Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.

Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.

Also, where are these 20 hour a week jobs? They aren't in every state. I know people who have been looking for months and not found something.

Also the requirement to constantly reapply will bog everything down is massive papework.

It will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.

My kid just got a 20-hour a week job yesterday as a cashier. He applied to three places, interviewed at two, and got a job - all within biking distance of our house- with zero work experience and with a 16 year old male’s executive function capabilities.

I’m not saying that all the people who need to meet these requirements will have the same experience but it’s not an impossible thing.

I agree that the requirement to constantly reapply will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.

Most non child, non elderly people on medicaid DO ACTUALLY HAVE JOBS

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/understanding-the-intersection-of-medicaid-and-work-an-update/

True. I wonder how —or if — corporations like Walmart, that depend upon Medicaid to insure most of their employees who have insurance will handle it.

Many others have unpaid jobs that actually save the state/feds money — including providing unpaid eldercare, which will be needed even more if Medicaid cuts impact nursing home coverage.

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Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.

Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.

Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.

And, the way this it will be implemented is to ACTUALLY make the paperwork so difficult that people who DO QUALIFY are not able to get through the red tape and are kicked off. Someone who is working multiple minimum wage jobs or is elderly or impaired in some way and may not have easy access to the internet, the hours required to complete the paperwork, or the days to wait on hold to get help doing the paperwork EVERY MONTH in order to continue to qualify even though they do.

Link to LAST WEEK TONIGHT that helps explain the problem with the requirements.

Doesn't every working adult with health insurance, as well as every senior, have to do a bunch of paperwork every year? The USA sets aside an entire month for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.

Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.

Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.

Also, where are these 20 hour a week jobs? They aren't in every state. I know people who have been looking for months and not found something.

Also the requirement to constantly reapply will bog everything down is massive papework.

It will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.

Isn't this just what Clinton did?

The work requirement will be a positive thing, just like it was under Clinton.

I was going to retire next year (I'll be 57), but BBB guts ACA tax breaks. So, I will have to keep my almost $200K job instead of letting a younger person take my job just because of the health insurance. If I had the tax breaks, it would be easier financially.

This is a lose/lose for both me and younger people who need a higher paying job. I'm not a fed; my job is not difficult, but it pays well.

And before someone says it's Dem fault, no, ACA allowed me to be self employed for a long time (without any subsidies), and I also had private insurance prior to ACA. It's always been expensive. But, I was looking forward to retiring early with the ACA tax breaks. Can't do that now.

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Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.

Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.

Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.

And, the way this it will be implemented is to ACTUALLY make the paperwork so difficult that people who DO QUALIFY are not able to get through the red tape and are kicked off. Someone who is working multiple minimum wage jobs or is elderly or impaired in some way and may not have easy access to the internet, the hours required to complete the paperwork, or the days to wait on hold to get help doing the paperwork EVERY MONTH in order to continue to qualify even though they do.

Link to LAST WEEK TONIGHT that helps explain the problem with the requirements.

This. Some states are counting on the onerous requirements bumping people from the rolls.
People already have stories about how their relative with alzheimers is going to need to be requalified each month from their memory care. What an infernal waste of resources. This administration is obscene.

Welcome to reality. My parents paid for memory care. Plenty of Americans spend everything they have and then expect the government to fund memory care in old age.

There absolutely should be a challenging process for having the US taxpayer pay for memory care for a relative.

You’re simply not going to garner much sympathy arguing these changes shouldn’t be implemented because it’s a PIA to reapply. Guess what it’s a pain to submit my hours every week to work but when someone is paying for you, there is often a cost.

Way to miss the point. These people are eligible. End of. Can't argue that unless you really want there to be no Medicaid, in which case keep voting as you presumably do. But it will be an administrative cost, on top of all else, to keep recertifying people. We pay for that. I'm sure you don't like that, right? But thanks for paying for it and supporting the extra cost cheerfully I guess?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.

Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.

Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.

And, the way this it will be implemented is to ACTUALLY make the paperwork so difficult that people who DO QUALIFY are not able to get through the red tape and are kicked off. Someone who is working multiple minimum wage jobs or is elderly or impaired in some way and may not have easy access to the internet, the hours required to complete the paperwork, or the days to wait on hold to get help doing the paperwork EVERY MONTH in order to continue to qualify even though they do.

Link to LAST WEEK TONIGHT that helps explain the problem with the requirements.

This. Some states are counting on the onerous requirements bumping people from the rolls.
People already have stories about how their relative with alzheimers is going to need to be requalified each month from their memory care. What an infernal waste of resources. This administration is obscene.

Welcome to reality. My parents paid for memory care. Plenty of Americans spend everything they have and then expect the government to fund memory care in old age.

There absolutely should be a challenging process for having the US taxpayer pay for memory care for a relative.

You’re simply not going to garner much sympathy arguing these changes shouldn’t be implemented because it’s a PIA to reapply. Guess what it’s a pain to submit my hours every week to work but when someone is paying for you, there is often a cost.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.

Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.

Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.

Also, where are these 20 hour a week jobs? They aren't in every state. I know people who have been looking for months and not found something.

Also the requirement to constantly reapply will bog everything down is massive papework.

It will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.

My kid just got a 20-hour a week job yesterday as a cashier. He applied to three places, interviewed at two, and got a job - all within biking distance of our house- with zero work experience and with a 16 year old male’s executive function capabilities.

I’m not saying that all the people who need to meet these requirements will have the same experience but it’s not an impossible thing.

I agree that the requirement to constantly reapply will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.

Who cares? The argument that we shouldn’t have a work requirement for Medicaid is a weak one.

It’s kind of like the argument we shouldn’t deport illegals because they pick fruit. Since when is the Democratic Party unsupportive of higher wages for Americans?

It’s terrible for democrats to go against the common sense stuff because then people ignore the terrible policy changes.

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Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.

Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.

Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.

And, the way this it will be implemented is to ACTUALLY make the paperwork so difficult that people who DO QUALIFY are not able to get through the red tape and are kicked off. Someone who is working multiple minimum wage jobs or is elderly or impaired in some way and may not have easy access to the internet, the hours required to complete the paperwork, or the days to wait on hold to get help doing the paperwork EVERY MONTH in order to continue to qualify even though they do.

Link to LAST WEEK TONIGHT that helps explain the problem with the requirements.

This. Some states are counting on the onerous requirements bumping people from the rolls.
People already have stories about how their relative with alzheimers is going to need to be requalified each month from their memory care. What an infernal waste of resources. This administration is obscene.