Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 08:46     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Anonymous wrote:Why is there so much reluctance to book drivers for speeding? I have lived off River Rd in Bethesda for 9 years and the majority of drivers go more than 10 mph over the speed limit unless it’s very congested. However, I have only seen a police officer with a radar gun a handful of times. And, yes, I see the aftermath of accidents ALL the time. Putting a speed trap on the road twice a week would easily pay for itself and more until the desired effect of changing behaviours is achieved.
Because your nimby desire for reduced traffic in your neighborhood is less important than the smooth flow of people to their destinations. River rd can safely accommodate faster speeds than the posted limits. In a poorer neighborhood with fewer lawyers a road like that would have a higher speed limit.

I agree with you on reckless driving but cameras that look for just that won't "pay for itself". Whereas AI could easily do it.

I'd love to see AI cameras that catch people scrolling their phones, even when stopped at red lights.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 08:26     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It would be inequitable to do this.


Disagree. 35 mph is 35 mph, no matter one's race or income. There is no societal structure or historic set of policies that makes a speed limit easier for some than for others.

Signed, the most liberal person you know


Flat fees disproportionately hurt minorities. Any system that fails to account for income disparites results in inequitable outcomes.

Signed, the most logical person you know.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 07:32     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP if you feel like this is happening to you all the time, then the problem is you. Either your driving skills, your expectations of other drivers, or both.


See, you can sense the RAGE emanating from this post at the very thought speeding tickets would all of the sudden be automatic and be based on average speed calculations. You can not stand the fact that you'd no longer be allowed to weave in and out of traffic going 20, 30, 40+ mph over the limit.


I'm not rageing at all - I'm just a competent driver. Where did you learn to drive, pp? Or where have you driven for most of your life? Clearly it's not the DC area.

Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 06:27     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Oh and probably spent some time in the military, since you seem to have been "abroad".
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 06:26     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Anonymous wrote:Other first world countries calculate average speed and hand out tickets based on it. It 1000% works at controlling speeding and aggressive driving. If you've ever traveled abroad and driven in a country where they monitor speeding by calculating averages, you can absolutely see the impact by how almost no one goes over the speed limit. This would also go a long way at controlling insurance costs that are exploding. It's time for the US to get with the program and do what the rest of the world is doing. Clearly cops don't enforce traffic laws anymore. Something needs to be done ASAP.



You sound like you're about 73, recently treated for prostate cancer, drive a Toyota Venza and have lived in the same mid-grade colonial in Burke since 1982.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 01:32     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of distracted drivers. People on their phones, even at lights. I'll take a speeder with eyes totally on the road over a slower driver on their phone all day every day.


x1 million
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 01:15     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Anonymous wrote:OP if you feel like this is happening to you all the time, then the problem is you. Either your driving skills, your expectations of other drivers, or both.


See, you can sense the RAGE emanating from this post at the very thought speeding tickets would all of the sudden be automatic and be based on average speed calculations. You can not stand the fact that you'd no longer be allowed to weave in and out of traffic going 20, 30, 40+ mph over the limit.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2025 01:12     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Anonymous wrote:Stop camping in the left lane, OP.



Exhibit A for exactly why the US needs camera enforced average speed calculations and fines.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 23:56     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What they really need are cameras on the beltway to ticket the weavers and aggressive drivers that think it’s a video game. Everyone drives fast when traffic allows, but those maniacs need some serious intervention.


Once again, just stay in the right lane and let them go as fast as they would like to the left of you. If people are always cutting in front of you or tailgating you then there is a reason and it’s staring right back at you in the rear view mirror.


I already am driving in the very farthest right lane, and I am going above the posted speed, and there is a wide open lane to my left, but still idiots tailgate me for looong distances (not merely to the next exit).

Tailgating is not because of slow speed. It happens because some drivers cannot drive properly.


People have different comfort levels when driving - it's not really a matter of "properly."

Some people have a different idea of space and speed, and can be closer and faster than you'd like, but still feel very safe. Your comfort levels may be very different.


Appropriate distance is physics not opinion. They could never stop in time.

They should just use that empty lane to the left and PASS the car in the far right lane. Why so many tailgate in the far right lane -- when it would be easy just to pass in the left lane -- is a total mystery.


I agree with your comment about passing but as for following distance the car in front of you won’t spontaneously decelerate to 0mph in a second flat. When they start slowing the you can slow down at the same or greater pace.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 23:54     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of distracted drivers. People on their phones, even at lights. I'll take a speeder with eyes totally on the road over a slower driver on their phone all day every day.


Amen to that. It’s crazy to see a person driving in the left lane going 50 and typing a message on their phone over the course of a few miles.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 18:44     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What they really need are cameras on the beltway to ticket the weavers and aggressive drivers that think it’s a video game. Everyone drives fast when traffic allows, but those maniacs need some serious intervention.


Once again, just stay in the right lane and let them go as fast as they would like to the left of you. If people are always cutting in front of you or tailgating you then there is a reason and it’s staring right back at you in the rear view mirror.


I already am driving in the very farthest right lane, and I am going above the posted speed, and there is a wide open lane to my left, but still idiots tailgate me for looong distances (not merely to the next exit).

Tailgating is not because of slow speed. It happens because some drivers cannot drive properly.


People have different comfort levels when driving - it's not really a matter of "properly."

Some people have a different idea of space and speed, and can be closer and faster than you'd like, but still feel very safe. Your comfort levels may be very different.


Appropriate distance is physics not opinion. They could never stop in time.

They should just use that empty lane to the left and PASS the car in the far right lane. Why so many tailgate in the far right lane -- when it would be easy just to pass in the left lane -- is a total mystery.


I think it is true that some drivers are just not aware what the safe distance between cars is and drive too closely without meaning to tailgate. I would just treat them as a natural disaster and get out of their way
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 18:02     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What they really need are cameras on the beltway to ticket the weavers and aggressive drivers that think it’s a video game. Everyone drives fast when traffic allows, but those maniacs need some serious intervention.


Once again, just stay in the right lane and let them go as fast as they would like to the left of you. If people are always cutting in front of you or tailgating you then there is a reason and it’s staring right back at you in the rear view mirror.


I already am driving in the very farthest right lane, and I am going above the posted speed, and there is a wide open lane to my left, but still idiots tailgate me for looong distances (not merely to the next exit).

Tailgating is not because of slow speed. It happens because some drivers cannot drive properly.


People have different comfort levels when driving - it's not really a matter of "properly."

Some people have a different idea of space and speed, and can be closer and faster than you'd like, but still feel very safe. Your comfort levels may be very different.


Appropriate distance is physics not opinion. They could never stop in time.

They should just use that empty lane to the left and PASS the car in the far right lane. Why so many tailgate in the far right lane -- when it would be easy just to pass in the left lane -- is a total mystery.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 14:05     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
We should eliminate privately owned motor vehicles. Then traffic jams, pollution, aggressive driving all go away.


Try a bike.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 14:02     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
Why is there so much reluctance to book drivers for speeding? I have lived off River Rd in Bethesda for 9 years and the majority of drivers go more than 10 mph over the speed limit unless it’s very congested. However, I have only seen a police officer with a radar gun a handful of times. And, yes, I see the aftermath of accidents ALL the time. Putting a speed trap on the road twice a week would easily pay for itself and more until the desired effect of changing behaviours is achieved.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 13:50     Subject: Road rage and speeding out of control. US should enforce speeding with cameras and average speed
I'm so tired of distracted drivers. People on their phones, even at lights. I'll take a speeder with eyes totally on the road over a slower driver on their phone all day every day.