Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 08:17     Subject: Re:Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
We do need more law and order in our country. The guy who murdered the family in NW, for example, had a long rap sheet prior to the murders. He immigrated here from Guyana. If he had been denaturalized after his first offense, that family would still be alive.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 08:14     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Convicted criminals need to go home.
Why should struggling taxpayer Americans be forced to pay for the upkeep of foreign criminals?

Anyone who wants them to stay, should right now volunteer to pay for Alligator Alley living expenses.


So to you, anyone who is a naturalized citizen is still a foreigner? Because actually, factually, they are now American. Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud; that as a naturalized citizen I am less than you, the natural born ones. I deserve less. I am a category below you.

Ironically, denaturalizing and deporting people instead of having them serve their crimes here could actually be a better outcome for some people when it comes to serious crimes. So much for the party of law and order. Instead of justice you want to just release people to live a normal life, albeit in a different country?


DP. There is a difference between someone born a citizen and someone granted citizenship as a benefit. That benefit can be taken away if it is later found to have been derived through illegal or fraudulent means.

As to the second part of your post, you might have a point, especially if the person is likely to be a danger to society in the future.

How about someone who committed war crimes? Maybe deporting them to their home country and having them face the music there might not be a bad thing.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 08:08     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
Anonymous wrote:17:04 and adding because my post isn’t clear. You can’t deport him so I don’t understand why people are bringing up his crimes here. Not relevant.

I do think there needs to be a distinction between violent crimes and a basic speeding tickets, etc.


They are pointing out the fact that he and every one of his followers are damned hypocrites. You cannot claim to care about law and order while being a 37x felon, or voting for one to run the country.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 08:03     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
Anonymous wrote:Start with Musk and Melania. Musk entered on a student visa and violated the terms of that visa by not attending the university and instead working without work authorization. Melania entered on a tourist visa and worked without authorization for a period of time.


Agreed... At least the President should pardon them.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 08:01     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
Start with Musk and Melania. Musk entered on a student visa and violated the terms of that visa by not attending the university and instead working without work authorization. Melania entered on a tourist visa and worked without authorization for a period of time.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 07:57     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Convicted criminals need to go home.
Why should struggling taxpayer Americans be forced to pay for the upkeep of foreign criminals?

Anyone who wants them to stay, should right now volunteer to pay for Alligator Alley living expenses.


So to you, anyone who is a naturalized citizen is still a foreigner? Because actually, factually, they are now American. Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud; that as a naturalized citizen I am less than you, the natural born ones. I deserve less. I am a category below you.

Ironically, denaturalizing and deporting people instead of having them serve their crimes here could actually be a better outcome for some people when it comes to serious crimes. So much for the party of law and order. Instead of justice you want to just release people to live a normal life, albeit in a different country?


MAGA don't think this way

Everything Ttump says no matter how awful,.they aren’t just holding their noses and voting for him.

They just don't want to be called out for it. Now with Trump, they can speak freely without being "canceled" (actually un-American talk.)


It’s true, it’s a cult. They will destroy their own lives to fight some made up boogeyman in “the libs.”

Of course, nothing will stop you from looking people up to see who they are. If I was hiring for a position and found someone to be pro maga I’d certainly pass on that candidate because they can’t be trusted to do anything important.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 07:51     Subject: Re:Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
The new thing is people in power advocating for denaturalizing citizens over disliking their political beliefs and personal beefs. Both US representative Ogles and trump have on record/in public.
They’re being very cavalier and normalizing this thought process and language.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 07:51     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Convicted criminals need to go home.
Why should struggling taxpayer Americans be forced to pay for the upkeep of foreign criminals?

Anyone who wants them to stay, should right now volunteer to pay for Alligator Alley living expenses.


So to you, anyone who is a naturalized citizen is still a foreigner? Because actually, factually, they are now American. Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud; that as a naturalized citizen I am less than you, the natural born ones. I deserve less. I am a category below you.

Ironically, denaturalizing and deporting people instead of having them serve their crimes here could actually be a better outcome for some people when it comes to serious crimes. So much for the party of law and order. Instead of justice you want to just release people to live a normal life, albeit in a different country?


MAGA don't think this way

Everything Ttump says no matter how awful,.they aren’t just holding their noses and voting for him.

They just don't want to be called out for it. Now with Trump, they can speak freely without being "canceled" (actually un-American talk.)
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 07:48     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
Anonymous wrote:Is there anything materially new here?
Denaturalization for committing immigration fraud and certain crimes has been a thing for a long time before Trump came along. He’s just decided to enforce it, whereas the previous DHS secretary who I will not name preferred not to so it had no teeth.

Like it or not, marriage fraud for immigration purposes in particular is a huge problem. The previous administration and DHS secretary looked the other way, but all the while, USCIS folks were investigating fraud indicators and knew who a lot about who these people were.
The big difference now is instead of being told to put things on indefinite hold, investigations and enforcement have been given the go ahead to proceed.



You are a blind MAGA

The DOJ was never used as a personal bulldog by any other president. Not felon Trump. He shows up to the DOJ and speaks like he runs the whole place

No, there is something new here
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 07:47     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
Anonymous wrote:Convicted criminals need to go home.
Why should struggling taxpayer Americans be forced to pay for the upkeep of foreign criminals?

Anyone who wants them to stay, should right now volunteer to pay for Alligator Alley living expenses.


So to you, anyone who is a naturalized citizen is still a foreigner? Because actually, factually, they are now American. Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud; that as a naturalized citizen I am less than you, the natural born ones. I deserve less. I am a category below you.

Ironically, denaturalizing and deporting people instead of having them serve their crimes here could actually be a better outcome for some people when it comes to serious crimes. So much for the party of law and order. Instead of justice you want to just release people to live a normal life, albeit in a different country?
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 07:45     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
Is there anything materially new here?
Denaturalization for committing immigration fraud and certain crimes has been a thing for a long time before Trump came along. He’s just decided to enforce it, whereas the previous DHS secretary who I will not name preferred not to so it had no teeth.

Like it or not, marriage fraud for immigration purposes in particular is a huge problem. The previous administration and DHS secretary looked the other way, but all the while, USCIS folks were investigating fraud indicators and knew who a lot about who these people were.
The big difference now is instead of being told to put things on indefinite hold, investigations and enforcement have been given the go ahead to proceed.

Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 07:39     Subject: Re:Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
I'm okay with getting rid of all of those African nationals who were involved in the food program scam during Covid.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 07:26     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
Anonymous wrote:Seems like the solution is pretty simple. Follow the law and you'll be fine.

Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime. They showed you Trump’s crimes. When the objective is to get you, they will find the crime.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 06:13     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
And just like that- being a minority is now a crime. Helps to create a white state.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 06:06     Subject: Trump plans to revoke citizenship for crimes
I like how China just disappears you. Is that on the table?