"I wouldn't take her to the Victoria & Albert..."

Disagree and you've obviously not gone through the V&A very thoroughly:

"Spanning five centuries, our Fashion collection is the largest and most comprehensive collection of dress in the world. Key items in the collection include rare 17th century gowns, 18th century ‘mantua’ dresses, 1930s eveningwear, 1960s daywear and post-war couture."

AND

"The V&A has one of the finest and most comprehensive collections of jewellery in the world. Over 3,000 jewels tell the story of jewellery in Europe from ancient times to the present day."

If there is ONE museum in Europe I would recommend for OP & daughter it would be the V&A.

Anonymous wrote:OP and her daughter sound like a waste of space. Seriously.

Oh stop

I love museums. But the trip they are planning can be very appealing.

Just getting kids to realize that the world can be very different than the place they grew up is a good start.

Go see Evita in the West End with Rachel Zegler if she’s still performing there.

The most fashionable 16 yo girl I know went to Paris with her family last spring and loved the thrift shops there - came home with some great stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:OP and her daughter sound like a waste of space. Seriously.

I’m sure you’re a prize.

She’s not wrong tho.

When in Paris we did a fashion tour, bakery tour and macaroon cooking class. My 11 and 14 year olds loved it!

Anonymous wrote:My teenage daughter's London favorites were Borough Market, a scone making class and tea at Sketch.

I was about to recommend tea at Sketch. It is SUCH a cool place.

Anonymous wrote:OP and her daughter sound like a waste of space. Seriously.

I’m sure you’re a prize.

My 14 year old is also not super into art of history but does like the castles and palaces.

She also has liked some food experiences like tea in London (we went to the royal palace theater tea) and it’s also fun to go to a west end tour in London.

She’s okay with history in little bits but if you ask her if she wants a history tour you’ll get a resounding no.

My teenage daughter's London favorites were Borough Market, a scone making class and tea at Sketch.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok everyone take a chill pill

Go to London
Thames cruise
Shopping on Bond St or Mayfair or Kensington or Covent Garden
Train to Windsor don’t have to go inside the castle to appreciate it
Afternoon tea in Windsor
Or train out to Bicester Outlets near Oxford
Dinner in Oxford
London Eye
Shopping at Harrods
Eat at Harrods food halls
Train to Paris
Do two nights in Paris
Do a cooking class
Seine dinner
Shopping in Paris
Fly home open jaw

A cooking class is a good idea. We did one in Florence with my teen-aged daughter.

It’s also fun to shop at Fortnum & Mason in London, the Queen’s “grocery store” - really, a department store with high-end food items and other luxuries.

Great suggestions. Love the cooking class idea!

Don’t book the London Eye more than a day or two in advance unless you can see that the weather really will be clear

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok everyone take a chill pill

Go to London
Thames cruise
Shopping on Bond St or Mayfair or Kensington or Covent Garden
Train to Windsor don’t have to go inside the castle to appreciate it
Afternoon tea in Windsor
Or train out to Bicester Outlets near Oxford
Dinner in Oxford
London Eye
Shopping at Harrods
Eat at Harrods food halls
Train to Paris
Do two nights in Paris
Do a cooking class
Seine dinner
Shopping in Paris
Fly home open jaw

Yes, this sounds like a great trip for someone who isn't into history. Both cities have GORGEOUS parks ... if the weather is nice, you can hang out in the parks. And you really should do the Eiffel Tower. I've traveled a lot, and it's one of the cliched destinations that still just filled me with joy.

It’s very unlikely to be park weather at that time of year in London, although you could be lucky.

People on this thread are so weird.

A lot of kids get bored with historical sites and museums. I love both as an adult and would have been bored with both as a teen.

It's also normal for a 15 yr old to love "shopping" but also most of us understand that doesn't necessarily mean just buying stuff. I bet a 15 yr old girl who loves fashion would love Paris and London -- stuff like the Repetto store or visiting the big department stores, even if you only buy a few smaller things.

Also, even kids who don't love long tours of the historical stuff or museums generally can find sites and museums to enjoy in these cities. I wouldn't take her to the Victoria & Albert but I would take her to Tate Modern. The Dior museum in Paris, which is entirely clothes and accessories, is also an obvious choice. And sites like the Eiffel Tower, the London Eye, etc., are cool even if you don't go in for the historical stuff like Tower of London.

Kids also tend to enjoy experiencing a bit of European culture. My kid loves traveling by train and using local transportation favorites (bikes in Amsterdam, the metro in Paris, the Tube in London). Also trying some of the food (who is going to turn down Parisian pastries?).

All of these are totally valid tourist preferences in Europe and there are plenty of adults who would choose them over visiting a million museums or going on historical tours of Medieval churches or WWII sites.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok everyone take a chill pill

Go to London
Thames cruise
Shopping on Bond St or Mayfair or Kensington or Covent Garden
Train to Windsor don’t have to go inside the castle to appreciate it
Afternoon tea in Windsor
Or train out to Bicester Outlets near Oxford
Dinner in Oxford
London Eye
Shopping at Harrods
Eat at Harrods food halls
Train to Paris
Do two nights in Paris
Do a cooking class
Seine dinner
Shopping in Paris
Fly home open jaw

Where is the history? Where is the culture?

Anonymous wrote:Is your daughter in true crime? Mine is and really enjoyed a Jack the Ripper walking tour we did last summer. I was surprised that it was so good (expected it to be that tacky). They take place in the East London and you can go to Spitalfields Market before or after.

That tour is so good!