Wait a minute...these jobs are "impossible to replace" now?

Isn't this the same guy who said that immigrants were taking jobs from American citizens?

Anonymous wrote:Illegals are only 28% of the farming industry. It’s not as nearly as high as democrats lead you to believe.

Source? These sources suggest it’s higher.

Estimates on the percentage of undocumented farm workers in the U.S. vary depending on the source and methodology. Based on available data, the figure ranges from about 36% to 50%:

- The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Economic Research Service (2020–2022) estimates that 42% of hired crop farm workers lack work authorization.[](https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/chart-detail?chartId=63466)
- The Center for Migration Studies (2022) reports that 45% of all U.S. agricultural workers are undocumented.[](https://cmsny.org/agricultural-workers-rosenbloom-083022/)
- Farmworker Justice, citing the 2017 Census of Agriculture and the 2019–2020 National Agricultural Workers Survey, estimates 36% of farm workers are undocumented.[](https://www.farmworkerjustice.org/about-farmworker-justice/who-we-serve/)
- Other sources, like Fwd.us (2021) and posts on X, suggest figures around 40% to 50%.[](https://www.fwd.us/news/immigrant-farmworkers-and-americas-food-production-5-things-to-know/)[](https://x.com/devahaz/status/1813995469108130165)[](https://x.com/waltermasterson/status/1851653286903902222)

The variation comes from differences in data collection, definitions of "farm workers" (e.g., crop vs. livestock), and the challenges of tracking undocumented individuals. A reasonable estimate, balancing these sources, is approximately 40–45%. For the most precise number, the USDA’s 42% from recent years is a strong benchmark.[](https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/chart-detail?chartId=63466)

Illegals are only 28% of the farming industry. It’s not as nearly as high as democrats lead you to believe.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

The problem is that Democrats want amnesty and a path to citizenship for all of the illegals that are currently here. Let's agree that will never happen and we can go from there.

eh.. both Reagan and Bush did the same thing. Why single out Dems for doing the same?

Neither of them let in 11M+ illegals by opening the border during a 4 year term.

Just agree they won't be counted for anything that has a political impact and we can go from there.

But Trump just did!

How?

Trump has ordered ICE, DHS and the US military to not arrest illegals. What do you think this thread is about? This is much worst vs Biden.

How is that the same as letting in 11 million illegals and/or granting amnesty?

Maybe Trump is giving Democrats what they want? Why not just say "thank you"?

When did Biden do that?

He didn't let in 11 million illegals, contrary to whatever you've been told. There were approximately 12 million illegals in the US at the end of Trump's first term, if Biden supposedly let in another 11 million on top of that then that would mean there was almost double, 23 million illegal in the US yet there is not one credible source anywhere willing to agree with that number. Nowhere. And where did he give the 11 million amnesty and legal status? Yet more fabrication. Yes, yes, I'm sure you probably heard all of that crap somewhere, which is why you're repeating it here yet you should stop and do a little more critical thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

The problem is that Democrats want amnesty and a path to citizenship for all of the illegals that are currently here. Let's agree that will never happen and we can go from there.

eh.. both Reagan and Bush did the same thing. Why single out Dems for doing the same?

Neither of them let in 11M+ illegals by opening the border during a 4 year term.

Just agree they won't be counted for anything that has a political impact and we can go from there.

But Trump just did!

How?

Trump has ordered ICE, DHS and the US military to not arrest illegals. What do you think this thread is about? This is much worst vs Biden.

How is that the same as letting in 11 million illegals and/or granting amnesty?

Maybe Trump is giving Democrats what they want? Why not just say "thank you"?

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

The problem is that Democrats want amnesty and a path to citizenship for all of the illegals that are currently here. Let's agree that will never happen and we can go from there.

eh.. both Reagan and Bush did the same thing. Why single out Dems for doing the same?

Neither of them let in 11M+ illegals by opening the border during a 4 year term.

Just agree they won't be counted for anything that has a political impact and we can go from there.

But Trump just did!

How?

Trump has ordered ICE, DHS and the US military to not arrest illegals. What do you think this thread is about? This is much worst vs Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

The problem is that Democrats want amnesty and a path to citizenship for all of the illegals that are currently here. Let's agree that will never happen and we can go from there.

eh.. both Reagan and Bush did the same thing. Why single out Dems for doing the same?

Neither of them let in 11M+ illegals by opening the border during a 4 year term.

Just agree they won't be counted for anything that has a political impact and we can go from there.

But Trump just did!

How?

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

The problem is that Democrats want amnesty and a path to citizenship for all of the illegals that are currently here. Let's agree that will never happen and we can go from there.

Link please? I haven’t heard/read that anywhere.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/11/16/schumer_calls_for_path_to_citizenship_for_all_11_million_or_however_many_illegal_immigrants_there_are.html

https://pelosi.house.gov/issues/immigration-reform

Lots more where those came from.

Anonymous wrote:So farms and "leisure" hotels, but not meatpacking, chicken processing, roofing and other contractors, commercial cleaners, factory workers?

Translation-Trump couldn’t find enough undocumented workers to work the summer season at his hotels

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

The problem is that Democrats want amnesty and a path to citizenship for all of the illegals that are currently here. Let's agree that will never happen and we can go from there.

Link please? I haven’t heard/read that anywhere.

Here you go!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth-Three

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

The problem is that Democrats want amnesty and a path to citizenship for all of the illegals that are currently here. Let's agree that will never happen and we can go from there.

eh.. both Reagan and Bush did the same thing. Why single out Dems for doing the same?

Neither of them let in 11M+ illegals by opening the border during a 4 year term.

Just agree they won't be counted for anything that has a political impact and we can go from there.

But Trump just did!

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

The problem is that Democrats want amnesty and a path to citizenship for all of the illegals that are currently here. Let's agree that will never happen and we can go from there.

Link please? I haven’t heard/read that anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

The problem is that Democrats want amnesty and a path to citizenship for all of the illegals that are currently here. Let's agree that will never happen and we can go from there.

eh.. both Reagan and Bush did the same thing. Why single out Dems for doing the same?

Neither of them let in 11M+ illegals by opening the border during a 4 year term.

Just agree they won't be counted for anything that has a political impact and we can go from there.

I see that we still don't have the MAGA-approved talking points and spin.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

The problem is that Democrats want amnesty and a path to citizenship for all of the illegals that are currently here. Let's agree that will never happen and we can go from there.

eh.. both Reagan and Bush did the same thing. Why single out Dems for doing the same?