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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

NP here and didn’t read the whole thread, so this might have already been addressed.

At my kid’s magnet IB program, most IB students also take the equivalent AP tests (self-study for any differences) to maximize college credit options. However, unless they are going to a public school, it might not really matter. Many private schools don’t accept a lot of AP/IB credit. Complete the IBDP for the experience and rigorous education. Take the AP tests to keep college credit options open, but don’t expect to use them at all schools.

Colleges will generally give the same credit for IB HL courses as to the AP equivalents. IB SL courses don’t get that much credit because they don’t raise to that level, not because colleges favor AP.

Self studying for AP classes while taking IB is not as easy as it is claimed. It works for some classes, but it will be a disaster for others like math and physics. Doing that for IB SL classes is ill advised. Go the AP route if you want college credit.

Top schools don’t give much credit for either AP or IB. Go far enough down the rankings and some flagships will give credit for both HL and SL classes. University of Flordia for example gives a lot of credit for both.

State universities do. My college kids got almost a year’s worth and will finish in 3 years.

Careful now, the ignorant anti-IB poster will claim you are lying.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

NP here and didn’t read the whole thread, so this might have already been addressed.

At my kid’s magnet IB program, most IB students also take the equivalent AP tests (self-study for any differences) to maximize college credit options. However, unless they are going to a public school, it might not really matter. Many private schools don’t accept a lot of AP/IB credit. Complete the IBDP for the experience and rigorous education. Take the AP tests to keep college credit options open, but don’t expect to use them at all schools.

Colleges will generally give the same credit for IB HL courses as to the AP equivalents. IB SL courses don’t get that much credit because they don’t raise to that level, not because colleges favor AP.

Self studying for AP classes while taking IB is not as easy as it is claimed. It works for some classes, but it will be a disaster for others like math and physics. Doing that for IB SL classes is ill advised. Go the AP route if you want college credit.

My kid took ib physics only and self studied for both ap and ib exams. Got a 5 on ap.

The reason why some ib exams aren't given credit in college is because some of these classes go very in depth on certain subjects and don't cover enough breadth. Like ib history will cover two or three global events in depth whereas ap world covers more content but only surface level.

I've had one kid take ib history and another take ap world

What AP Physics did he self study for? IB HL Physics is Algebra based, while AP Physics C is calculus based, and goes in more depth because it’s focused on a few subtopics (mechanics, electromagnetism). Either way, it’s not easy to self study for AP while taking IB, but it may work for a small subset of hardworking, motivated students.

AP Physics 1&2 is also algebra based, but it doesn’t count for much for stem majors.

If we’re talking about an introductory history course, it makes more sense to me to cover more content on the surface than go deep on a few topics.

I’ve heard of extreme cases of IB students chasing the AP credit at RMIB, where they take both courses IB Physics HL and AP Physics C, not just the AP exam. I get that IB HL Physics may not be a good preparation for AP Physics C, but what a waste of time to take both.

I'm the PP with the DC who took AP/IB physics exam.

DC took IB physics HL then self studied for Physics C Mech. They did not take the AP class. Scored a 5 on AP, and 6 on IB. They got credit for both for two physics courses in college.

Yes, they were at RMIB, and a lot of those kids self study for multiple AP exams. All together, DC had 58 credits going in. 31 AP credits and 27 for IBs.

This is not an outlier for RMIB kids; they take a lot of AP classes, in conjunction to their IB courses. The path includes taking AP courses starting 9th grade.

I don’t know what’s up with the IB crowd that makes them so prone to exaggerations and lying by omission, at this point I’d take everything an IB supporter says with a fistful of salt.

Lady, your kid didn’t have 58 credits going in. Thats because you can’t double count the AP and IB credits. For example, colleges won’t give credit for both AP and IB Physics, just for one of them.

I bet that there was a lot of overlap in your count, between IB and AP in Calculus, Physics, Computer Science, and maybe English.

So nowhere close to 58 credits.

You really should not post things you know nothing about. Some college will give you credit for both AP and IB, but for a different course, like an elective course, or different physics courses, for example.


Transfer Credit Information -- Equivalences
Advanced Placement Exam

U.S. GVPT 3
2101 COMP SCI 4 - credit for elective
U.S. HISTORY 3 - credit for USH 1
U.S. HISTORY 3 - credit for USH 2
ENG LIT/COMP 3 -- credit for English
ENG LIT/COMP 3 -- credit for elective
CALCULUS BC 4 -- credit for math
PHYSICS C-MECH 4 - credit for physics meche

Total 27

International Baccalaureate Exam
2301 COMPUTG HIGH 3 -- credit for elective
ENGLISH A LIT HIGH 3 -- credit for elective
MATH ANALYSIS/APP HIGH/ 4 -- credit for math class
MATH ANALYSIS/APP HIGH 4 -- credit for stat class
PHYSICS HIGH P 4.00 -- credit for fundamentals in physics
PHYSICS HIGH P 4.00 -- credit for fundamentals in physics part 2
Language STD P 3.00 -- credit for language level 20x
Language STD P 3.00 -- credit for language level 20y

Total 27

OK, it was 54 applicable, 58 acceptable. One was a dupe. Like I said, DC was not the only one with this many credits.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

NP here and didn’t read the whole thread, so this might have already been addressed.

At my kid’s magnet IB program, most IB students also take the equivalent AP tests (self-study for any differences) to maximize college credit options. However, unless they are going to a public school, it might not really matter. Many private schools don’t accept a lot of AP/IB credit. Complete the IBDP for the experience and rigorous education. Take the AP tests to keep college credit options open, but don’t expect to use them at all schools.

Colleges will generally give the same credit for IB HL courses as to the AP equivalents. IB SL courses don’t get that much credit because they don’t raise to that level, not because colleges favor AP.

Self studying for AP classes while taking IB is not as easy as it is claimed. It works for some classes, but it will be a disaster for others like math and physics. Doing that for IB SL classes is ill advised. Go the AP route if you want college credit.

Top schools don’t give much credit for either AP or IB. Go far enough down the rankings and some flagships will give credit for both HL and SL classes. University of Flordia for example gives a lot of credit for both.

State universities do. My college kids got almost a year’s worth and will finish in 3 years.

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Anonymous wrote:And opts to pursue an advanced degree instead, do colleges frown upon this? Is it considered not rigorous enough, or do the high grades matter more?

If it’s a regional IB program in most cases it’s not worth it, and many people switch over to an AP high school. Look up the course catalogue and see what interests your child. For many IB schools the course offering is slim and not as rigorous as AP.

Magnet IBs may be worth it because of the student cohort and because they offer both IB and AP courses, but even then it’s almost always better to stay at a good AP base school, especially if interested in stem.

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Good advice for HACK applicants.

Anonymous wrote:And opts to pursue an advanced degree instead, do colleges frown upon this? Is it considered not rigorous enough, or do the high grades matter more?

If it’s a regional IB program in most cases it’s not worth it, and many people switch over to an AP high school. Look up the course catalogue and see what interests your child. For many IB schools the course offering is slim and not as rigorous as AP.

Magnet IBs may be worth it because of the student cohort and because they offer both IB and AP courses, but even then it’s almost always better to stay at a good AP base school, especially if interested in stem.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

NP here and didn’t read the whole thread, so this might have already been addressed.

At my kid’s magnet IB program, most IB students also take the equivalent AP tests (self-study for any differences) to maximize college credit options. However, unless they are going to a public school, it might not really matter. Many private schools don’t accept a lot of AP/IB credit. Complete the IBDP for the experience and rigorous education. Take the AP tests to keep college credit options open, but don’t expect to use them at all schools.

Colleges will generally give the same credit for IB HL courses as to the AP equivalents. IB SL courses don’t get that much credit because they don’t raise to that level, not because colleges favor AP.

Self studying for AP classes while taking IB is not as easy as it is claimed. It works for some classes, but it will be a disaster for others like math and physics. Doing that for IB SL classes is ill advised. Go the AP route if you want college credit.

My kid took ib physics only and self studied for both ap and ib exams. Got a 5 on ap.

The reason why some ib exams aren't given credit in college is because some of these classes go very in depth on certain subjects and don't cover enough breadth. Like ib history will cover two or three global events in depth whereas ap world covers more content but only surface level.

I've had one kid take ib history and another take ap world

What AP Physics did he self study for? IB HL Physics is Algebra based, while AP Physics C is calculus based, and goes in more depth because it’s focused on a few subtopics (mechanics, electromagnetism). Either way, it’s not easy to self study for AP while taking IB, but it may work for a small subset of hardworking, motivated students.

AP Physics 1&2 is also algebra based, but it doesn’t count for much for stem majors.

If we’re talking about an introductory history course, it makes more sense to me to cover more content on the surface than go deep on a few topics.

I’ve heard of extreme cases of IB students chasing the AP credit at RMIB, where they take both courses IB Physics HL and AP Physics C, not just the AP exam. I get that IB HL Physics may not be a good preparation for AP Physics C, but what a waste of time to take both.

I'm the PP with the DC who took AP/IB physics exam.

DC took IB physics HL then self studied for Physics C Mech. They did not take the AP class. Scored a 5 on AP, and 6 on IB. They got credit for both for two physics courses in college.

Yes, they were at RMIB, and a lot of those kids self study for multiple AP exams. All together, DC had 58 credits going in. 31 AP credits and 27 for IBs.

This is not an outlier for RMIB kids; they take a lot of AP classes, in conjunction to their IB courses. The path includes taking AP courses starting 9th grade.

I don’t know what’s up with the IB crowd that makes them so prone to exaggerations and lying by omission, at this point I’d take everything an IB supporter says with a fistful of salt.

Lady, your kid didn’t have 58 credits going in. Thats because you can’t double count the AP and IB credits. For example, colleges won’t give credit for both AP and IB Physics, just for one of them.

I bet that there was a lot of overlap in your count, between IB and AP in Calculus, Physics, Computer Science, and maybe English.

So nowhere close to 58 credits.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

NP here and didn’t read the whole thread, so this might have already been addressed.

At my kid’s magnet IB program, most IB students also take the equivalent AP tests (self-study for any differences) to maximize college credit options. However, unless they are going to a public school, it might not really matter. Many private schools don’t accept a lot of AP/IB credit. Complete the IBDP for the experience and rigorous education. Take the AP tests to keep college credit options open, but don’t expect to use them at all schools.

Colleges will generally give the same credit for IB HL courses as to the AP equivalents. IB SL courses don’t get that much credit because they don’t raise to that level, not because colleges favor AP.

Self studying for AP classes while taking IB is not as easy as it is claimed. It works for some classes, but it will be a disaster for others like math and physics. Doing that for IB SL classes is ill advised. Go the AP route if you want college credit.

My kid took ib physics only and self studied for both ap and ib exams. Got a 5 on ap.

The reason why some ib exams aren't given credit in college is because some of these classes go very in depth on certain subjects and don't cover enough breadth. Like ib history will cover two or three global events in depth whereas ap world covers more content but only surface level.

I've had one kid take ib history and another take ap world

What AP Physics did he self study for? IB HL Physics is Algebra based, while AP Physics C is calculus based, and goes in more depth because it’s focused on a few subtopics (mechanics, electromagnetism). Either way, it’s not easy to self study for AP while taking IB, but it may work for a small subset of hardworking, motivated students.

AP Physics 1&2 is also algebra based, but it doesn’t count for much for stem majors.

If we’re talking about an introductory history course, it makes more sense to me to cover more content on the surface than go deep on a few topics.

I’ve heard of extreme cases of IB students chasing the AP credit at RMIB, where they take both courses IB Physics HL and AP Physics C, not just the AP exam. I get that IB HL Physics may not be a good preparation for AP Physics C, but what a waste of time to take both.

I'm the PP with the DC who took AP/IB physics exam.

DC took IB physics HL then self studied for Physics C Mech. They did not take the AP class. Scored a 5 on AP, and 6 on IB. They got credit for both for two physics courses in college.

Yes, they were at RMIB, and a lot of those kids self study for multiple AP exams. All together, DC had 58 credits going in. 31 AP credits and 27 for IBs.

This is not an outlier for RMIB kids; they take a lot of AP classes, in conjunction to their IB courses. The path includes taking AP courses starting 9th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:IB prepared my kid well for WASP.

IB is preferred curriculum for most HACK-level colleges

TF is HACK?

Somebody on DCUM is trying to make HACK happen.

Bring it back! This was a big thing back then WAS and HACK, but somehow faded to west coast WASP

So nobody knows?

HACK supposedly = Haverford, Amherst, Colby, Kenyon. Never saw the term until earlier thus week on another thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

The problem with IB schools is it prevents underclassman from accelerating. We had the option of an IB high school or an AP high school. The IB school gate keeps all the advanced classes for 11th and 12 graders- even if your acceptor received credit already for lower level classes

How often does this actually matter? Some AP schools won’t let any 9th graders take AP classes, and in many cases not having taken the prereqs limits what AP courses a 10th grader can take.

Prereqs are also a limiting factor for IB, but a kid who did enough math in middle school will be able to take IB math in 9th and 10th grade.

Absolutely not true. Please name the school where you think this is possible.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

The problem with IB schools is it prevents underclassman from accelerating. We had the option of an IB high school or an AP high school. The IB school gate keeps all the advanced classes for 11th and 12 graders- even if your acceptor received credit already for lower level classes

How often does this actually matter? Some AP schools won’t let any 9th graders take AP classes, and in many cases not having taken the prereqs limits what AP courses a 10th grader can take.

Prereqs are also a limiting factor for IB, but a kid who did enough math in middle school will be able to take IB math in 9th and 10th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

NP here and didn’t read the whole thread, so this might have already been addressed.

At my kid’s magnet IB program, most IB students also take the equivalent AP tests (self-study for any differences) to maximize college credit options. However, unless they are going to a public school, it might not really matter. Many private schools don’t accept a lot of AP/IB credit. Complete the IBDP for the experience and rigorous education. Take the AP tests to keep college credit options open, but don’t expect to use them at all schools.

Colleges will generally give the same credit for IB HL courses as to the AP equivalents. IB SL courses don’t get that much credit because they don’t raise to that level, not because colleges favor AP.

Self studying for AP classes while taking IB is not as easy as it is claimed. It works for some classes, but it will be a disaster for others like math and physics. Doing that for IB SL classes is ill advised. Go the AP route if you want college credit.

My kid took ib physics only and self studied for both ap and ib exams. Got a 5 on ap.

The reason why some ib exams aren't given credit in college is because some of these classes go very in depth on certain subjects and don't cover enough breadth. Like ib history will cover two or three global events in depth whereas ap world covers more content but only surface level.

I've had one kid take ib history and another take ap world

What AP Physics did he self study for? IB HL Physics is Algebra based, while AP Physics C is calculus based, and goes in more depth because it’s focused on a few subtopics (mechanics, electromagnetism). Either way, it’s not easy to self study for AP while taking IB, but it may work for a small subset of hardworking, motivated students.

AP Physics 1&2 is also algebra based, but it doesn’t count for much for stem majors.

If we’re talking about an introductory history course, it makes more sense to me to cover more content on the surface than go deep on a few topics.

I’ve heard of extreme cases of IB students chasing the AP credit at RMIB, where they take both courses IB Physics HL and AP Physics C, not just the AP exam. I get that IB HL Physics may not be a good preparation for AP Physics C, but what a waste of time to take both.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

The problem with IB schools is it prevents underclassman from accelerating. We had the option of an IB high school or an AP high school. The IB school gate keeps all the advanced classes for 11th and 12 graders- even if your acceptor received credit already for lower level classes

*accelerated teen

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

The problem with IB schools is it prevents underclassman from accelerating. We had the option of an IB high school or an AP high school. The IB school gate keeps all the advanced classes for 11th and 12 graders- even if your acceptor received credit already for lower level classes

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

NP here and didn’t read the whole thread, so this might have already been addressed.

At my kid’s magnet IB program, most IB students also take the equivalent AP tests (self-study for any differences) to maximize college credit options. However, unless they are going to a public school, it might not really matter. Many private schools don’t accept a lot of AP/IB credit. Complete the IBDP for the experience and rigorous education. Take the AP tests to keep college credit options open, but don’t expect to use them at all schools.

Colleges will generally give the same credit for IB HL courses as to the AP equivalents. IB SL courses don’t get that much credit because they don’t raise to that level, not because colleges favor AP.

Self studying for AP classes while taking IB is not as easy as it is claimed. It works for some classes, but it will be a disaster for others like math and physics. Doing that for IB SL classes is ill advised. Go the AP route if you want college credit.

My kid took ib physics only and self studied for both ap and ib exams. Got a 5 on ap.

The reason why some ib exams aren't given credit in college is because some of these classes go very in depth on certain subjects and don't cover enough breadth. Like ib history will cover two or three global events in depth whereas ap world covers more content but only surface level.

I've had one kid take ib history and another take ap world

What AP Physics did he self study for? IB HL Physics is Algebra based, while AP Physics C is calculus based, and goes in more depth because it’s focused on a few subtopics (mechanics, electromagnetism). Either way, it’s not easy to self study for AP while taking IB, but it may work for a small subset of hardworking, motivated students.

AP Physics 1&2 is also algebra based, but it doesn’t count for much for stem majors.

If we’re talking about an introductory history course, it makes more sense to me to cover more content on the surface than go deep on a few topics.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't so sure about IB, but the amount of writing makes it highly rigorous, almost too much. DS was very well prepared for college and said that it was easier than HS. 100% acceptance rate for colleges where he applied. Only big drawback was that he had earned a lot fewer college credits than we had expected.

Yeah, it's funny. My IB kid had a more demanding HS experience and was better prepared for college, but my AP kid started college with ~twice as many credits. (If I had a third kid, I'd go IB if they could handle it.)

NP here and didn’t read the whole thread, so this might have already been addressed.

At my kid’s magnet IB program, most IB students also take the equivalent AP tests (self-study for any differences) to maximize college credit options. However, unless they are going to a public school, it might not really matter. Many private schools don’t accept a lot of AP/IB credit. Complete the IBDP for the experience and rigorous education. Take the AP tests to keep college credit options open, but don’t expect to use them at all schools.

Colleges will generally give the same credit for IB HL courses as to the AP equivalents. IB SL courses don’t get that much credit because they don’t raise to that level, not because colleges favor AP.

Self studying for AP classes while taking IB is not as easy as it is claimed. It works for some classes, but it will be a disaster for others like math and physics. Doing that for IB SL classes is ill advised. Go the AP route if you want college credit.

Top schools don’t give much credit for either AP or IB. Go far enough down the rankings and some flagships will give credit for both HL and SL classes. University of Flordia for example gives a lot of credit for both.