Anonymous wrote:To be clear, I didn’t call her anything, I am not that PP. I just put out the list, but commented on none of them.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am PP that put out the list but not PP you are responding to.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure Fetterman is going to switch sides. Butterworth's is a Republican hangout for this administration. There's zero reason for a Dem to hangout there.
If you want to chat with a Breitbart journalist, you go to any other bar or restaurant in the city. You only go to Butterworth's to make a statement.
PS - Fetterman's wife was an illegal immigrant. So that's the leverage being held over his head. She was also badly injured in his car accident; she's been keeping a really low profile.
Common sense would tell is he can switch sides and it won't matter because no way he'll ever win an election again.
Then again, the moronic American voters elected Trump twice and 80 year old Biden so there may be no bounds for American voter ignorance.
Truth is that Fetterman is the most reasonable Democrat out there right now.
Fetterman isn't a "Democrat". He's just a random idiot who took advantage of a GOP party that was still weakened from the Trump 1st term debacle by running on the opposition ticket against another relatively weak GOP candidate. He's an opportunist.
He actually holds many of the democratic beliefs from yesteryear. They have gone so batshit crazy that you don’t recognize that.
All the Dems I know are the same old common sense Obama/Clinton Dems. Perhaps you're bat poop crazy.
They shouldn’t have voted for crazies like AOC orr Gavin then, who don’t support common sense proposals.
I don't live in California or New York and know few Dems who do. Who they elect locally is their business.
AOC is one of the few on Congress who isn't afraid to speak truth to the power and money controlling our two parties. She doesn't have a chance at career advancement due to speaking truth to power and money in politics. If you don't respect her and you don't want to hear more of what she has to say, you are either part of the elite class controlling our two major parties or you are a complete and utter idiot who doesn't know what the hell is going on in politics.
I actually like AOC for reasons you list, and hope she is involved in some way. But, your response of basically you either agree with me or “you are a complete and utter idiot” is really off-putting, and generally stifles any useful exchange of ideas afterwards. You’re not in 6th grade, and this isn’t the school playground.
You called AOC a "crazy" and that set me off because it's fine to disagree with her policy positions but there are hundreds of true crazies in leadership positions and she isn't one of them. This being said; appreciate your response and I apologize for the 6th grade rhetoric.
To be clear, I didn’t call her anything, I am not that PP. I just put out the list, but commented on none of them.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am PP that put out the list but not PP you are responding to.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure Fetterman is going to switch sides. Butterworth's is a Republican hangout for this administration. There's zero reason for a Dem to hangout there.
If you want to chat with a Breitbart journalist, you go to any other bar or restaurant in the city. You only go to Butterworth's to make a statement.
PS - Fetterman's wife was an illegal immigrant. So that's the leverage being held over his head. She was also badly injured in his car accident; she's been keeping a really low profile.
Common sense would tell is he can switch sides and it won't matter because no way he'll ever win an election again.
Then again, the moronic American voters elected Trump twice and 80 year old Biden so there may be no bounds for American voter ignorance.
Truth is that Fetterman is the most reasonable Democrat out there right now.
Fetterman isn't a "Democrat". He's just a random idiot who took advantage of a GOP party that was still weakened from the Trump 1st term debacle by running on the opposition ticket against another relatively weak GOP candidate. He's an opportunist.
He actually holds many of the democratic beliefs from yesteryear. They have gone so batshit crazy that you don’t recognize that.
All the Dems I know are the same old common sense Obama/Clinton Dems. Perhaps you're bat poop crazy.
They shouldn’t have voted for crazies like AOC orr Gavin then, who don’t support common sense proposals.
I don't live in California or New York and know few Dems who do. Who they elect locally is their business.
AOC is one of the few on Congress who isn't afraid to speak truth to the power and money controlling our two parties. She doesn't have a chance at career advancement due to speaking truth to power and money in politics. If you don't respect her and you don't want to hear more of what she has to say, you are either part of the elite class controlling our two major parties or you are a complete and utter idiot who doesn't know what the hell is going on in politics.
I actually like AOC for reasons you list, and hope she is involved in some way. But, your response of basically you either agree with me or “you are a complete and utter idiot” is really off-putting, and generally stifles any useful exchange of ideas afterwards. You’re not in 6th grade, and this isn’t the school playground.
You called AOC a "crazy" and that set me off because it's fine to disagree with her policy positions but there are hundreds of true crazies in leadership positions and she isn't one of them. This being said; appreciate your response and I apologize for the 6th grade rhetoric.
Anonymous wrote:I am PP that put out the list but not PP you are responding to.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure Fetterman is going to switch sides. Butterworth's is a Republican hangout for this administration. There's zero reason for a Dem to hangout there.
If you want to chat with a Breitbart journalist, you go to any other bar or restaurant in the city. You only go to Butterworth's to make a statement.
PS - Fetterman's wife was an illegal immigrant. So that's the leverage being held over his head. She was also badly injured in his car accident; she's been keeping a really low profile.
Common sense would tell is he can switch sides and it won't matter because no way he'll ever win an election again.
Then again, the moronic American voters elected Trump twice and 80 year old Biden so there may be no bounds for American voter ignorance.
Truth is that Fetterman is the most reasonable Democrat out there right now.
Fetterman isn't a "Democrat". He's just a random idiot who took advantage of a GOP party that was still weakened from the Trump 1st term debacle by running on the opposition ticket against another relatively weak GOP candidate. He's an opportunist.
He actually holds many of the democratic beliefs from yesteryear. They have gone so batshit crazy that you don’t recognize that.
All the Dems I know are the same old common sense Obama/Clinton Dems. Perhaps you're bat poop crazy.
They shouldn’t have voted for crazies like AOC orr Gavin then, who don’t support common sense proposals.
I don't live in California or New York and know few Dems who do. Who they elect locally is their business.
AOC is one of the few on Congress who isn't afraid to speak truth to the power and money controlling our two parties. She doesn't have a chance at career advancement due to speaking truth to power and money in politics. If you don't respect her and you don't want to hear more of what she has to say, you are either part of the elite class controlling our two major parties or you are a complete and utter idiot who doesn't know what the hell is going on in politics.
I actually like AOC for reasons you list, and hope she is involved in some way. But, your response of basically you either agree with me or “you are a complete and utter idiot” is really off-putting, and generally stifles any useful exchange of ideas afterwards. You’re not in 6th grade, and this isn’t the school playground.
I disagree. 174k doesn’t cut it in the DMV (or any other urban area) if you have a family, which most of these people have. The goal is to attract the best and brightest.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agreed. So how to get more competent people into politics ?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Simple answer, they were judged to be better than their opponent.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s ok for Fetterman to hang out with nazis?
How do people like Trump, Fetterman, and Biden get elected by the American people? Are we really collectively this stupid? So embarrassing and disgusting.
Ouch. Talk about lowly opponents. Trump and Biden beat each other and Fetterman beat Oz so yea, lowly opponents.
I hate to say it, but it should pay more, so that the non-wealthy are more encouraged to participate. Currently 174K for Congress, which is a joke.
Actually, for the non-wealthy 174k is a pretty good number. Our real problem is the wealthy people who do NOT run for Congress but who buy our political system.
I am PP that put out the list but not PP you are responding to.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure Fetterman is going to switch sides. Butterworth's is a Republican hangout for this administration. There's zero reason for a Dem to hangout there.
If you want to chat with a Breitbart journalist, you go to any other bar or restaurant in the city. You only go to Butterworth's to make a statement.
PS - Fetterman's wife was an illegal immigrant. So that's the leverage being held over his head. She was also badly injured in his car accident; she's been keeping a really low profile.
Common sense would tell is he can switch sides and it won't matter because no way he'll ever win an election again.
Then again, the moronic American voters elected Trump twice and 80 year old Biden so there may be no bounds for American voter ignorance.
Truth is that Fetterman is the most reasonable Democrat out there right now.
Fetterman isn't a "Democrat". He's just a random idiot who took advantage of a GOP party that was still weakened from the Trump 1st term debacle by running on the opposition ticket against another relatively weak GOP candidate. He's an opportunist.
He actually holds many of the democratic beliefs from yesteryear. They have gone so batshit crazy that you don’t recognize that.
All the Dems I know are the same old common sense Obama/Clinton Dems. Perhaps you're bat poop crazy.
They shouldn’t have voted for crazies like AOC orr Gavin then, who don’t support common sense proposals.
I don't live in California or New York and know few Dems who do. Who they elect locally is their business.
AOC is one of the few on Congress who isn't afraid to speak truth to the power and money controlling our two parties. She doesn't have a chance at career advancement due to speaking truth to power and money in politics. If you don't respect her and you don't want to hear more of what she has to say, you are either part of the elite class controlling our two major parties or you are a complete and utter idiot who doesn't know what the hell is going on in politics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure Fetterman is going to switch sides. Butterworth's is a Republican hangout for this administration. There's zero reason for a Dem to hangout there.
If you want to chat with a Breitbart journalist, you go to any other bar or restaurant in the city. You only go to Butterworth's to make a statement.
PS - Fetterman's wife was an illegal immigrant. So that's the leverage being held over his head. She was also badly injured in his car accident; she's been keeping a really low profile.
Common sense would tell is he can switch sides and it won't matter because no way he'll ever win an election again.
Then again, the moronic American voters elected Trump twice and 80 year old Biden so there may be no bounds for American voter ignorance.
Truth is that Fetterman is the most reasonable Democrat out there right now.
Fetterman isn't a "Democrat". He's just a random idiot who took advantage of a GOP party that was still weakened from the Trump 1st term debacle by running on the opposition ticket against another relatively weak GOP candidate. He's an opportunist.
He actually holds many of the democratic beliefs from yesteryear. They have gone so batshit crazy that you don’t recognize that.
All the Dems I know are the same old common sense Obama/Clinton Dems. Perhaps you're bat poop crazy.
They shouldn’t have voted for crazies like AOC orr Gavin then, who don’t support common sense proposals.
I don't live in California or New York and know few Dems who do. Who they elect locally is their business.
.
No. You don’t get to claim voters are “common sense” when they elect radicals like AOC.
She is in Congress so it’s all our business.
If you support AOC then you are many things but common sense oriented or moderate, you are not. Own it.
Any time I have seen AOC speaking in congressional committees she is smart, articulate, civil, and shows eminent common sense.
Anonymous wrote:Agreed. So how to get more competent people into politics ?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Simple answer, they were judged to be better than their opponent.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s ok for Fetterman to hang out with nazis?
How do people like Trump, Fetterman, and Biden get elected by the American people? Are we really collectively this stupid? So embarrassing and disgusting.
Ouch. Talk about lowly opponents. Trump and Biden beat each other and Fetterman beat Oz so yea, lowly opponents.
I hate to say it, but it should pay more, so that the non-wealthy are more encouraged to participate. Currently 174K for Congress, which is a joke.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agreed. So how to get more competent people into politics ?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Simple answer, they were judged to be better than their opponent.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s ok for Fetterman to hang out with nazis?
How do people like Trump, Fetterman, and Biden get elected by the American people? Are we really collectively this stupid? So embarrassing and disgusting.
Ouch. Talk about lowly opponents. Trump and Biden beat each other and Fetterman beat Oz so yea, lowly opponents.
I hate to say it, but it should pay more, so that the non-wealthy are more encouraged to participate. Currently 174K for Congress, which is a joke.
Absolutely agree! Why would the Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson brains of the country enter the political arena in 2025 when they can make 10 to 15 times more money working in the private sector without being puppets to RNC and DNC mega donors?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure Fetterman is going to switch sides. Butterworth's is a Republican hangout for this administration. There's zero reason for a Dem to hangout there.
If you want to chat with a Breitbart journalist, you go to any other bar or restaurant in the city. You only go to Butterworth's to make a statement.
PS - Fetterman's wife was an illegal immigrant. So that's the leverage being held over his head. She was also badly injured in his car accident; she's been keeping a really low profile.
Common sense would tell is he can switch sides and it won't matter because no way he'll ever win an election again.
Then again, the moronic American voters elected Trump twice and 80 year old Biden so there may be no bounds for American voter ignorance.
Truth is that Fetterman is the most reasonable Democrat out there right now.
Fetterman isn't a "Democrat". He's just a random idiot who took advantage of a GOP party that was still weakened from the Trump 1st term debacle by running on the opposition ticket against another relatively weak GOP candidate. He's an opportunist.
He actually holds many of the democratic beliefs from yesteryear. They have gone so batshit crazy that you don’t recognize that.
All the Dems I know are the same old common sense Obama/Clinton Dems. Perhaps you're bat poop crazy.
They shouldn’t have voted for crazies like AOC orr Gavin then, who don’t support common sense proposals.
I don't live in California or New York and know few Dems who do. Who they elect locally is their business.
.
No. You don’t get to claim voters are “common sense” when they elect radicals like AOC.
She is in Congress so it’s all our business.
If you support AOC then you are many things but common sense oriented or moderate, you are not. Own it.
Anonymous wrote:This is not as big a deal as you want to make it out to be.
There used to be a time when Congress members from both parties met with and dined with people from all backgrounds. It sure would be nice to get back to those days.
Good for Fetterman.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure Fetterman is going to switch sides. Butterworth's is a Republican hangout for this administration. There's zero reason for a Dem to hangout there.
If you want to chat with a Breitbart journalist, you go to any other bar or restaurant in the city. You only go to Butterworth's to make a statement.
PS - Fetterman's wife was an illegal immigrant. So that's the leverage being held over his head. She was also badly injured in his car accident; she's been keeping a really low profile.
Common sense would tell is he can switch sides and it won't matter because no way he'll ever win an election again.
Then again, the moronic American voters elected Trump twice and 80 year old Biden so there may be no bounds for American voter ignorance.
Truth is that Fetterman is the most reasonable Democrat out there right now.
Fetterman isn't a "Democrat". He's just a random idiot who took advantage of a GOP party that was still weakened from the Trump 1st term debacle by running on the opposition ticket against another relatively weak GOP candidate. He's an opportunist.
He actually holds many of the democratic beliefs from yesteryear. They have gone so batshit crazy that you don’t recognize that.
All the Dems I know are the same old common sense Obama/Clinton Dems. Perhaps you're bat poop crazy.
They shouldn’t have voted for crazies like AOC orr Gavin then, who don’t support common sense proposals.
I don't live in California or New York and know few Dems who do. Who they elect locally is their business.
.
No. You don’t get to claim voters are “common sense” when they elect radicals like AOC.
She is in Congress so it’s all our business.
If you support AOC then you are many things but common sense oriented or moderate, you are not. Own it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure Fetterman is going to switch sides. Butterworth's is a Republican hangout for this administration. There's zero reason for a Dem to hangout there.
If you want to chat with a Breitbart journalist, you go to any other bar or restaurant in the city. You only go to Butterworth's to make a statement.
PS - Fetterman's wife was an illegal immigrant. So that's the leverage being held over his head. She was also badly injured in his car accident; she's been keeping a really low profile.
Common sense would tell is he can switch sides and it won't matter because no way he'll ever win an election again.
Then again, the moronic American voters elected Trump twice and 80 year old Biden so there may be no bounds for American voter ignorance.
Truth is that Fetterman is the most reasonable Democrat out there right now.
Fetterman isn't a "Democrat". He's just a random idiot who took advantage of a GOP party that was still weakened from the Trump 1st term debacle by running on the opposition ticket against another relatively weak GOP candidate. He's an opportunist.
He actually holds many of the democratic beliefs from yesteryear. They have gone so batshit crazy that you don’t recognize that.
All the Dems I know are the same old common sense Obama/Clinton Dems. Perhaps you're bat poop crazy.
They shouldn’t have voted for crazies like AOC orr Gavin then, who don’t support common sense proposals.
I don't live in California or New York and know few Dems who do. Who they elect locally is their business.
.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure Fetterman is going to switch sides. Butterworth's is a Republican hangout for this administration. There's zero reason for a Dem to hangout there.
If you want to chat with a Breitbart journalist, you go to any other bar or restaurant in the city. You only go to Butterworth's to make a statement.
PS - Fetterman's wife was an illegal immigrant. So that's the leverage being held over his head. She was also badly injured in his car accident; she's been keeping a really low profile.
Common sense would tell is he can switch sides and it won't matter because no way he'll ever win an election again.
Then again, the moronic American voters elected Trump twice and 80 year old Biden so there may be no bounds for American voter ignorance.
Truth is that Fetterman is the most reasonable Democrat out there right now.
Fetterman isn't a "Democrat". He's just a random idiot who took advantage of a GOP party that was still weakened from the Trump 1st term debacle by running on the opposition ticket against another relatively weak GOP candidate. He's an opportunist.
He actually holds many of the democratic beliefs from yesteryear. They have gone so batshit crazy that you don’t recognize that.
All the Dems I know are the same old common sense Obama/Clinton Dems. Perhaps you're bat poop crazy.
They shouldn’t have voted for crazies like AOC orr Gavin then, who don’t support common sense proposals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure Fetterman is going to switch sides. Butterworth's is a Republican hangout for this administration. There's zero reason for a Dem to hangout there.
If you want to chat with a Breitbart journalist, you go to any other bar or restaurant in the city. You only go to Butterworth's to make a statement.
PS - Fetterman's wife was an illegal immigrant. So that's the leverage being held over his head. She was also badly injured in his car accident; she's been keeping a really low profile.
Common sense would tell is he can switch sides and it won't matter because no way he'll ever win an election again.
Then again, the moronic American voters elected Trump twice and 80 year old Biden so there may be no bounds for American voter ignorance.
Truth is that Fetterman is the most reasonable Democrat out there right now.
Fetterman isn't a "Democrat". He's just a random idiot who took advantage of a GOP party that was still weakened from the Trump 1st term debacle by running on the opposition ticket against another relatively weak GOP candidate. He's an opportunist.
He actually holds many of the democratic beliefs from yesteryear. They have gone so batshit crazy that you don’t recognize that.
All the Dems I know are the same old common sense Obama/Clinton Dems. Perhaps you're bat poop crazy.