Anonymous wrote:I’m glad you have a plan but I also think you should reconsider your language with a young girl about how to address what she is “worth”. Women are taught to be “tactful” about this and that is one of the factors that lead them to be underpaid (don’t get me wrong, I totally get there is a bunch of other misogyny in play). I think it is important to teach young women that they should understand the value they provide and make that clear to others. Just good for thought as you think about the language you used in these discussions.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks all. Upon reading all the replies, I agree the approach of individually responding with her new rate when she's next contact by each client makes the most sense. FWIW, I believe the minimum wage was $10 or so in VA when she began, and part of selecting that rate was my feeling that a middle schooler new to babysitting probably shouldn't be making more than an adult in a minimum wage job, potentially supporting dependents. Of course, she probably should have updated the rates sooner, so we'll consider the input on how much her new rate should be!
Thanks for following up, OP. I also think ya'll have chosen the best tactic. Truthfully, she should consider going to $15/hr (+ extra per sibling), esp to new clients. We're MC in RVA and no one bats an eye at that price (and many, esp long time clients, even pay more...while longer, routine gigs negotiate a set fee).
+1. My sibling in Charlotte pays $20 for 3 kids to a teen that doesn’t drive. Good luck keeping a quality sitter around NoVa if you pay less than $15. Most families pay at least that a round up, because they want to maintain access to good teen sitters.
No need to overpay. Most teens will take a reasonable amount. And yes, anywhere between $12-$15 is reasonable. There isn’t some ultra high demand for 15-16 yr olds babysitters. Most people don’t use teen babysitters at all anymore. It’s occasional and pays better than them sitting at home on scrolling their phone.
$15 is not overpaying. A teen will only accept $12 until another family comes along willing to pay $15. My 17 year old no longer babysits because she can make $22-$24 working at a restaurant and the hours are more regular. So you have to take the 13-16 year old sitters before they move on.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous and IMO the families are taking massive advantage unless you live in a a very LCOL area. She should charge $15 at a minimum and probably more like $18-$20.
This. I was paying $15 for teens and adults $18-20 per hour when my kids were little, 10-15 years ago. She can get a job making $15 per hour at any store.
Tell her to send a text that effective 6/1 or whatever date, her hourly rate will be $15 per hour. Keep it short.
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks all. Upon reading all the replies, I agree the approach of individually responding with her new rate when she's next contact by each client makes the most sense. FWIW, I believe the minimum wage was $10 or so in VA when she began, and part of selecting that rate was my feeling that a middle schooler new to babysitting probably shouldn't be making more than an adult in a minimum wage job, potentially supporting dependents. Of course, she probably should have updated the rates sooner, so we'll consider the input on how much her new rate should be!
Thanks for following up, OP. I also think ya'll have chosen the best tactic. Truthfully, she should consider going to $15/hr (+ extra per sibling), esp to new clients. We're MC in RVA and no one bats an eye at that price (and many, esp long time clients, even pay more...while longer, routine gigs negotiate a set fee).
+1. My sibling in Charlotte pays $20 for 3 kids to a teen that doesn’t drive. Good luck keeping a quality sitter around NoVa if you pay less than $15. Most families pay at least that a round up, because they want to maintain access to good teen sitters.
No need to overpay. Most teens will take a reasonable amount. And yes, anywhere between $12-$15 is reasonable. There isn’t some ultra high demand for 15-16 yr olds babysitters. Most people don’t use teen babysitters at all anymore. It’s occasional and pays better than them sitting at home on scrolling their phone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks all. Upon reading all the replies, I agree the approach of individually responding with her new rate when she's next contact by each client makes the most sense. FWIW, I believe the minimum wage was $10 or so in VA when she began, and part of selecting that rate was my feeling that a middle schooler new to babysitting probably shouldn't be making more than an adult in a minimum wage job, potentially supporting dependents. Of course, she probably should have updated the rates sooner, so we'll consider the input on how much her new rate should be!
Thanks for following up, OP. I also think ya'll have chosen the best tactic. Truthfully, she should consider going to $15/hr (+ extra per sibling), esp to new clients. We're MC in RVA and no one bats an eye at that price (and many, esp long time clients, even pay more...while longer, routine gigs negotiate a set fee).
+1. My sibling in Charlotte pays $20 for 3 kids to a teen that doesn’t drive. Good luck keeping a quality sitter around NoVa if you pay less than $15. Most families pay at least that a round up, because they want to maintain access to good teen sitters.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s rude. Babysitting is like a contract. Some families pay more than others. You either agree to the terms, or you don’t. End of story.
I think it’s rude to take advantage of a teenager!
Oh please. Teens and grown adults make avg $13/hr at McDonald’s. And I guarantee it is far harder and less pleasant work than eating pizza, watching a movie, and tucking a couple kids in bed. Babysitting is probably the cushiest, easiest teen job there is
Not in Montgomery County. Minimum wage is $15.50 for the smallest employers and most pay a bit more.
Child care is a safety issue too and that should command a fair wage. This isn't 1985.
Now that OP's daughter is turning 16, she can get many jobs that were previously off limits due to times (like no working past 9pm) by state child labor laws. She has so many more options now. If families want to keep her, they should be willing to pay competitive rates.
That’s hilarious. “Most” that pay more aren’t interested in hiring 15-16 yr olds. There are still inconvenient labor laws for hiring 16 yr olds as well- that many employers don’t want to deal with so they hire at 18
Sorry your kid couldn't get a job. Mine did.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks all. Upon reading all the replies, I agree the approach of individually responding with her new rate when she's next contact by each client makes the most sense. FWIW, I believe the minimum wage was $10 or so in VA when she began, and part of selecting that rate was my feeling that a middle schooler new to babysitting probably shouldn't be making more than an adult in a minimum wage job, potentially supporting dependents. Of course, she probably should have updated the rates sooner, so we'll consider the input on how much her new rate should be!
Thanks for following up, OP. I also think ya'll have chosen the best tactic. Truthfully, she should consider going to $15/hr (+ extra per sibling), esp to new clients. We're MC in RVA and no one bats an eye at that price (and many, esp long time clients, even pay more...while longer, routine gigs negotiate a set fee).
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks all. Upon reading all the replies, I agree the approach of individually responding with her new rate when she's next contact by each client makes the most sense. FWIW, I believe the minimum wage was $10 or so in VA when she began, and part of selecting that rate was my feeling that a middle schooler new to babysitting probably shouldn't be making more than an adult in a minimum wage job, potentially supporting dependents. Of course, she probably should have updated the rates sooner, so we'll consider the input on how much her new rate should be!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s rude. Babysitting is like a contract. Some families pay more than others. You either agree to the terms, or you don’t. End of story.
I think it’s rude to take advantage of a teenager!
Oh please. Teens and grown adults make avg $13/hr at McDonald’s. And I guarantee it is far harder and less pleasant work than eating pizza, watching a movie, and tucking a couple kids in bed. Babysitting is probably the cushiest, easiest teen job there is
Unless otherwise stated, all DCUM discussions are for the DC metro area. The minimum wage is $12.41 in VA, $15 in MD, $17.50 in DC. But for VA, it's for the entire state. NoVa wages are higher. For a teen, I would go with $15 an hour. It's reasonable.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s rude. Babysitting is like a contract. Some families pay more than others. You either agree to the terms, or you don’t. End of story.
I think it’s rude to take advantage of a teenager!
Oh please. Teens and grown adults make avg $13/hr at McDonald’s. And I guarantee it is far harder and less pleasant work than eating pizza, watching a movie, and tucking a couple kids in bed. Babysitting is probably the cushiest, easiest teen job there is
Not in Montgomery County. Minimum wage is $15.50 for the smallest employers and most pay a bit more.
Child care is a safety issue too and that should command a fair wage. This isn't 1985.
Now that OP's daughter is turning 16, she can get many jobs that were previously off limits due to times (like no working past 9pm) by state child labor laws. She has so many more options now. If families want to keep her, they should be willing to pay competitive rates.
That’s hilarious. “Most” that pay more aren’t interested in hiring 15-16 yr olds. There are still inconvenient labor laws for hiring 16 yr olds as well- that many employers don’t want to deal with so they hire at 18
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s rude. Babysitting is like a contract. Some families pay more than others. You either agree to the terms, or you don’t. End of story.
I think it’s rude to take advantage of a teenager!
Oh please. Teens and grown adults make avg $13/hr at McDonald’s. And I guarantee it is far harder and less pleasant work than eating pizza, watching a movie, and tucking a couple kids in bed. Babysitting is probably the cushiest, easiest teen job there is
Not in Montgomery County. Minimum wage is $15.50 for the smallest employers and most pay a bit more.
Child care is a safety issue too and that should command a fair wage. This isn't 1985.
Now that OP's daughter is turning 16, she can get many jobs that were previously off limits due to times (like no working past 9pm) by state child labor laws. She has so many more options now. If families want to keep her, they should be willing to pay competitive rates.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s rude. Babysitting is like a contract. Some families pay more than others. You either agree to the terms, or you don’t. End of story.
I think it’s rude to take advantage of a teenager!
Oh please. Teens and grown adults make avg $13/hr at McDonald’s. And I guarantee it is far harder and less pleasant work than eating pizza, watching a movie, and tucking a couple kids in bed. Babysitting is probably the cushiest, easiest teen job there is
Not in Montgomery County. Minimum wage is $15.50 for the smallest employers and most pay a bit more.
Child care is a safety issue too and that should command a fair wage. This isn't 1985.
Now that OP's daughter is turning 16, she can get many jobs that were previously off limits due to times (like no working past 9pm) by state child labor laws. She has so many more options now. If families want to keep her, they should be willing to pay competitive rates.