Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is why I’m a fan of required community service. Sure, for some kids it’s just a box they check with the most minimal effort they can muster. But for others, it’s the push they need to get involved in something they end up really caring about. My kids work with a neighborhood organization that provides food and health services to others in the local community. They both continued volunteering after satisfying their school requirement. Beyond the general positive experience of helping others, they’ve also built skills in food handling and customer service that they can include on their resumes as they pursue paid jobs.
I don’t know whether my kids would have gotten involved with this organization if not for the school service requirement. But I’m so glad they did and believe it’s had real benefits for them, as well as the organization they’re serving.
+100
It’s good for teen’s mental health too
So are many things…yet schools don’t require you to join a student club, participate in a music/arts EC, play a sport (I know some privates do), etc.
Those are also great for mental health.
Things you do solely for yourself have a different impact on your brain than things you do for others.[/quote
Not if you are required and reluctantly pick some random community service where you are just waiting for it to be over.
BTW, many NPOs regret taking HS kids as well for the exact same reasons.
Honestly, what point are you trying to make? Teens shouldn't do community service? That's ridiculous. You seem to be going out of your way to make a good thing seem like a bad thing. Why? Because your kid didn't do it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is why I’m a fan of required community service. Sure, for some kids it’s just a box they check with the most minimal effort they can muster. But for others, it’s the push they need to get involved in something they end up really caring about. My kids work with a neighborhood organization that provides food and health services to others in the local community. They both continued volunteering after satisfying their school requirement. Beyond the general positive experience of helping others, they’ve also built skills in food handling and customer service that they can include on their resumes as they pursue paid jobs.
I don’t know whether my kids would have gotten involved with this organization if not for the school service requirement. But I’m so glad they did and believe it’s had real benefits for them, as well as the organization they’re serving.
+100
It’s good for teen’s mental health too
So are many things…yet schools don’t require you to join a student club, participate in a music/arts EC, play a sport (I know some privates do), etc.
Those are also great for mental health.
Meet genius- my kid plays sports and has a job too. It’s the “giving back”/gratitude/service that is the spike for mental health. Looking outside of oneself and helping others less fortunate. Our society is a mess and selfish.
I guarantee you that more kids would feel happier and have better mental health if they engaged in any of the school activities.
My point is that schools for some reason force you to do community services, but they don't force you to engage with the school. That doesn't make much sense to me since it's practically easier to participate in school activities.
Anonymous wrote:My kid also doesn’t have the kind of volunteer work that will show as an activity on a college app.
He’s done stuff here and there for his SSL hours and helps out his grandparents and neighbors and does chores at home. But he has adhd and some other commitments and also doesn’t drive so it’s been not practical for him to come up with sort of a sustained volunteer activity. His sister had a ton of that because she was the kind of person that loved having her time all blocked out and also loved mentoring younger kids (which is sort of the easiest volunteer type work to schedule).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is why I’m a fan of required community service. Sure, for some kids it’s just a box they check with the most minimal effort they can muster. But for others, it’s the push they need to get involved in something they end up really caring about. My kids work with a neighborhood organization that provides food and health services to others in the local community. They both continued volunteering after satisfying their school requirement. Beyond the general positive experience of helping others, they’ve also built skills in food handling and customer service that they can include on their resumes as they pursue paid jobs.
I don’t know whether my kids would have gotten involved with this organization if not for the school service requirement. But I’m so glad they did and believe it’s had real benefits for them, as well as the organization they’re serving.
+100
It’s good for teen’s mental health too
So are many things…yet schools don’t require you to join a student club, participate in a music/arts EC, play a sport (I know some privates do), etc.
Those are also great for mental health.
Things you do solely for yourself have a different impact on your brain than things you do for others.[/quote
Not if you are required and reluctantly pick some random community service where you are just waiting for it to be over.
BTW, many NPOs regret taking HS kids as well for the exact same reasons.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is why I’m a fan of required community service. Sure, for some kids it’s just a box they check with the most minimal effort they can muster. But for others, it’s the push they need to get involved in something they end up really caring about. My kids work with a neighborhood organization that provides food and health services to others in the local community. They both continued volunteering after satisfying their school requirement. Beyond the general positive experience of helping others, they’ve also built skills in food handling and customer service that they can include on their resumes as they pursue paid jobs.
I don’t know whether my kids would have gotten involved with this organization if not for the school service requirement. But I’m so glad they did and believe it’s had real benefits for them, as well as the organization they’re serving.
+100
It’s good for teen’s mental health too
So are many things…yet schools don’t require you to join a student club, participate in a music/arts EC, play a sport (I know some privates do), etc.
Those are also great for mental health.
Meet genius- my kid plays sports and has a job too. It’s the “giving back”/gratitude/service that is the spike for mental health. Looking outside of oneself and helping others less fortunate. Our society is a mess and selfish.
Anonymous wrote:My kid was accepted to all 5 of HYPSM (and more). Didn't do any formal community service.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is why I’m a fan of required community service. Sure, for some kids it’s just a box they check with the most minimal effort they can muster. But for others, it’s the push they need to get involved in something they end up really caring about. My kids work with a neighborhood organization that provides food and health services to others in the local community. They both continued volunteering after satisfying their school requirement. Beyond the general positive experience of helping others, they’ve also built skills in food handling and customer service that they can include on their resumes as they pursue paid jobs.
I don’t know whether my kids would have gotten involved with this organization if not for the school service requirement. But I’m so glad they did and believe it’s had real benefits for them, as well as the organization they’re serving.
+100
It’s good for teen’s mental health too
So are many things…yet schools don’t require you to join a student club, participate in a music/arts EC, play a sport (I know some privates do), etc.
Those are also great for mental health.
Anonymous wrote:For all the hostility to OP on this forum, did anyone stop to think that some kids who do volunteer in a formal capacity may not be doing chores at home (because they’re too busy doing things to position themselves to get into good colleges) or that OP may not want to raise a kid who’s interest is fake and who’ll drop volunteering or ditch their nonprofit the second they get that acceptance letter?
Anonymous wrote:Is is truly selfless? It’s one thing when kids develop a genuine desire to help others and give back by watching the adults around them and as part of coming of age. It’s another thing when this is manufactured and intentional.
Anonymous wrote:Is is truly selfless? It’s one thing when kids develop a genuine desire to help others and give back by watching the adults around them and as part of coming of age. It’s another thing when this is manufactured and intentional.
Anonymous wrote:I am against requiring volunteer hours for graduation. If it’s required, it doesn’t meet the definition of being voluntary.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid satisfied all their HS volunteering during the Summer prior to freshman year.
None of it was listed in the activities section for college because it happened before Freshman year.
New poster, but just to clarify for upcoming applicants, summer before ninth grade counts as part of ninth grade for college admissions, so it's fine to include activities and volunteering from that summer on the Common App.
Maybe…but my kid had tons of other things to list, so was advised to list the more prominent and recent activities to fill up the 10 things.
If any space remained, then this probably would have been mentioned.
If your kid had that many strong activities, the lack of including volunteering probably didn’t matter.