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Anonymous wrote:I was at a Catholic youth event today, and there was such joy everytime our new pope was mentioned. The kids are thrilled! There’s genuine joy and happiness around this new moment for the church.

That said, it’s incredibly frustrating that so many non-Catholics are trying to make him a pawn in American left-right politics. Just stop. Let us have our moment of joy with him.

I am not sure you are aware of the extensive efforts by many Catholic churches to get their congregations to vote for Trump. It was relentless. Every single week, every single mass at our parish. It was intense and political and now we are all suffering the consequences.

So no. The church inserted itself heavily into the 2024 election. It is a political entity and that was its own doing.

Holy crap, that's outrageous. What parish was that? They should be admonished. Ours absolutely never talks politics like that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In an interview, when his brother was asked if he knew about their black heritage, he denied it.

Not sure how one doesn’t know that their grandparents are people of color, but….. if the pope had known and vocalized his African-American heritage he would’ve never been named Pope.

He didn't deny it. He said he didn't know a lot about that side of the family.

His grandfather was from Haiti and his grandmother was black creole.

I feel like you would know if you had black grandparents. If anything, I bet one might have been mixed but passing.

According to public records, they were both mixed, but, again, it's a societally determined social construct not particularly based on DNA or fact or anything objective.

Anonymous wrote:Left wing: one drop of connection is enough to celebrate community bonds forming.

Right wing; one drop of connection is enough to take away human rights.

We are not the same.

TY!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In an interview, when his brother was asked if he knew about their black heritage, he denied it.

Not sure how one doesn’t know that their grandparents are people of color, but….. if the pope had known and vocalized his African-American heritage he would’ve never been named Pope.

He didn't deny it. He said he didn't know a lot about that side of the family.

His grandfather was from Haiti and his grandmother was black creole.

I feel like you would know if you had black grandparents. If anything, I bet one might have been mixed but passing.

Anonymous wrote:In an interview, when his brother was asked if he knew about their black heritage, he denied it.

Not sure how one doesn’t know that their grandparents are people of color, but….. if the pope had known and vocalized his African-American heritage he would’ve never been named Pope.

So the new pope is sort of an inverse Elizabeth Warren. Interesting, I never thought of it that way before.

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Anonymous wrote:Does the left follow the one drop rule when determining someone's race? Very retro.

No, but MAGA Republicans do. It seems they are losing their minds about the new Pope.

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I think most people’s unconscious bias only pops out when confronted…and if you look white, then nobody would make an assumption otherwise. The one drop rule is historic rather than a modern day thing. (I mean, many of us think Meghan Markle looks white and her kids certainly look white.)

And ftr, nobody is calling him the first black pope. He’s the first American pope.

Signed,

Super liberal American cradle catholic

Not the first. In the early church there were at least three popes of African descent.

Left wing: one drop of connection is enough to celebrate community bonds forming.

Right wing; one drop of connection is enough to take away human rights.

We are not the same.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does the left follow the one drop rule when determining someone's race? Very retro.

It isn't the left who came up with the one drop rule. Sorry.

DP. But it is indeed the left who continues this obsession of putting every human being into little identity boxes. Very peculiar.

+1. Forty years ago I learned about the “one drop rule” as an artifact of history. I’m amazed that the left wants to keep it as a living thing.

"The left" doesn't. This one random poster does.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does the left follow the one drop rule when determining someone's race? Very retro.

It isn't the left who came up with the one drop rule. Sorry.

DP. But it is indeed the left who continues this obsession of putting every human being into little identity boxes. Very peculiar.

+1. Forty years ago I learned about the “one drop rule” as an artifact of history. I’m amazed that the left wants to keep it as a living thing.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the dumbest post I've seen in a while. And on here, that's saying a lot.

Oh please. MAGAs have shown their true racist colors over the last 3 months. Thought I'd have a little fun.

To be clear, I don't care at all. I'm agnostic. I don't believe in religion at all. But racist MAGAs will care a lot.

DP. Anyone who would start such an absolutely inane thread does indeed, "care a lot."

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Anonymous wrote:Does the left follow the one drop rule when determining someone's race? Very retro.

It isn't the left who came up with the one drop rule. Sorry.

DP. But it is indeed the left who continues this obsession of putting every human being into little identity boxes. Very peculiar.

Anonymous wrote:This is the dumbest post I've seen in a while. And on here, that's saying a lot.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:Does the left follow the one drop rule when determining someone's race? Very retro.

No, but MAGA Republicans do. It seems they are losing their minds about the new Pope.

NP and not "MAGA," but threads like this make it abundantly clear who is "losing their minds" about the Pope. Who cares what his ethnicity is? Why is this a factor for YOU?

Anonymous wrote:I was at a Catholic youth event today, and there was such joy everytime our new pope was mentioned. The kids are thrilled! There’s genuine joy and happiness around this new moment for the church.

That said, it’s incredibly frustrating that so many non-Catholics are trying to make him a pawn in American left-right politics. Just stop. Let us have our moment of joy with him.

I am not sure you are aware of the extensive efforts by many Catholic churches to get their congregations to vote for Trump. It was relentless. Every single week, every single mass at our parish. It was intense and political and now we are all suffering the consequences.

So no. The church inserted itself heavily into the 2024 election. It is a political entity and that was its own doing.