Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahead of what?

Ahead in life (career, savings, happiness, opportunities for success, family etc.)

This is hard to answer. Many military enlistees fall prey to payday lenders and other abuses. There is a reason that every street leading up to a military base is littered with liquor stores, payday lenders, etc.

Now, if your kid is disciplined and saves their $$$s and uses the military to gain useful skills, takes advantage of the GI Bill for college, etc., it can work out.

Other approach is to have the military pay for your college and then serve as an officer.

This is blunt truth. It’s a fantastic way to gain skills (even if you don’t aim for NCO+) and change your life, but you have to handle it the right away.

This! Enlisting can be great. You have virtually no bills for several years and can save a lot of money. The military provides you with many, many useful skills beyond your designated job. If you plan to go to college, your designated military job doesn’t matter. You can either serve out all your time then U.S. GI Bill, or serve 2 yrs and apply for Green to Gold ROTC scholarship and can switch to a student status enroute to becoming an officer. If you don’t plan on going to college, then yes, try to get a guarantee to a job specialty that has a civilian equivalent.

All in all, the military can be an amazing experience with much to gain- so long as you are smart, disciplined, and don’t make dumb mistakes/choices while in. (Don’t get married, don’t make a baby, and don’t blow $$$$ on a car and bunches of alcohol and strippers)

Hum…no it’s not. For some single if they live in the dorms maybe but they earn so little families get food stamps and wic. The jobs suck, officers treat you badly, can be sent anywhere and may not be released as promised. Clearly you are not entitled or an entitled family. We are a retiree enlisted family. I would be fine with my v
Child going in as an officer only. We’ve saved since birth to avoid this.

For an unmarried 18-21 yr old with no kids that isn’t stupid with money- no they are not on food stamps. They live in military housing and have very few bills, it’s fine and you can actually save a lot. But yeah, if you enlist, get married at 19 and make some kids and wife doesn’t work and you have to move off base, yeah- you’ll be on food stamps.
So don’t do that

Have you ever been enlisted? Clearly not. Its not a great experience.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahead of what?

Ahead in life (career, savings, happiness, opportunities for success, family etc.)

This is hard to answer. Many military enlistees fall prey to payday lenders and other abuses. There is a reason that every street leading up to a military base is littered with liquor stores, payday lenders, etc.

Now, if your kid is disciplined and saves their $$$s and uses the military to gain useful skills, takes advantage of the GI Bill for college, etc., it can work out.

Other approach is to have the military pay for your college and then serve as an officer.

This is blunt truth. It’s a fantastic way to gain skills (even if you don’t aim for NCO+) and change your life, but you have to handle it the right away.

This! Enlisting can be great. You have virtually no bills for several years and can save a lot of money. The military provides you with many, many useful skills beyond your designated job. If you plan to go to college, your designated military job doesn’t matter. You can either serve out all your time then U.S. GI Bill, or serve 2 yrs and apply for Green to Gold ROTC scholarship and can switch to a student status enroute to becoming an officer. If you don’t plan on going to college, then yes, try to get a guarantee to a job specialty that has a civilian equivalent.

All in all, the military can be an amazing experience with much to gain- so long as you are smart, disciplined, and don’t make dumb mistakes/choices while in. (Don’t get married, don’t make a baby, and don’t blow $$$$ on a car and bunches of alcohol and strippers)

Hum…no it’s not. For some single if they live in the dorms maybe but they earn so little families get food stamps and wic. The jobs suck, officers treat you badly, can be sent anywhere and may not be released as promised. Clearly you are not entitled or an entitled family. We are a retiree enlisted family. I would be fine with my v
Child going in as an officer only. We’ve saved since birth to avoid this.

For an unmarried 18-21 yr old with no kids that isn’t stupid with money- no they are not on food stamps. They live in military housing and have very few bills, it’s fine and you can actually save a lot. But yeah, if you enlist, get married at 19 and make some kids and wife doesn’t work and you have to move off base, yeah- you’ll be on food stamps.
So don’t do that

This is the conundrum…the vast majority of enlistees are bad with money and generally make bad life decisions. They are also preyed upon by companies that make fortune from these bad decisions.

So, you are correct…but kid needs to know what their peer group is like and stay away from the vices.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahead of what?

Ahead in life (career, savings, happiness, opportunities for success, family etc.)

This is hard to answer. Many military enlistees fall prey to payday lenders and other abuses. There is a reason that every street leading up to a military base is littered with liquor stores, payday lenders, etc.

Now, if your kid is disciplined and saves their $$$s and uses the military to gain useful skills, takes advantage of the GI Bill for college, etc., it can work out.

Other approach is to have the military pay for your college and then serve as an officer.

This is blunt truth. It’s a fantastic way to gain skills (even if you don’t aim for NCO+) and change your life, but you have to handle it the right away.

This! Enlisting can be great. You have virtually no bills for several years and can save a lot of money. The military provides you with many, many useful skills beyond your designated job. If you plan to go to college, your designated military job doesn’t matter. You can either serve out all your time then U.S. GI Bill, or serve 2 yrs and apply for Green to Gold ROTC scholarship and can switch to a student status enroute to becoming an officer. If you don’t plan on going to college, then yes, try to get a guarantee to a job specialty that has a civilian equivalent.

All in all, the military can be an amazing experience with much to gain- so long as you are smart, disciplined, and don’t make dumb mistakes/choices while in. (Don’t get married, don’t make a baby, and don’t blow $$$$ on a car and bunches of alcohol and strippers)

Hum…no it’s not. For some single if they live in the dorms maybe but they earn so little families get food stamps and wic. The jobs suck, officers treat you badly, can be sent anywhere and may not be released as promised. Clearly you are not entitled or an entitled family. We are a retiree enlisted family. I would be fine with my v
Child going in as an officer only. We’ve saved since birth to avoid this.

For an unmarried 18-21 yr old with no kids that isn’t stupid with money- no they are not on food stamps. They live in military housing and have very few bills, it’s fine and you can actually save a lot. But yeah, if you enlist, get married at 19 and make some kids and wife doesn’t work and you have to move off base, yeah- you’ll be on food stamps.
So don’t do that

Anonymous wrote:Is it really a surprise that the elites or wannabe elites in this country denigrate service.

Anonymous wrote:It’s for the poor.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahead of what?

Ahead in life (career, savings, happiness, opportunities for success, family etc.)

This is hard to answer. Many military enlistees fall prey to payday lenders and other abuses. There is a reason that every street leading up to a military base is littered with liquor stores, payday lenders, etc.

Now, if your kid is disciplined and saves their $$$s and uses the military to gain useful skills, takes advantage of the GI Bill for college, etc., it can work out.

Other approach is to have the military pay for your college and then serve as an officer.

This is blunt truth. It’s a fantastic way to gain skills (even if you don’t aim for NCO+) and change your life, but you have to handle it the right away.

This! Enlisting can be great. You have virtually no bills for several years and can save a lot of money. The military provides you with many, many useful skills beyond your designated job. If you plan to go to college, your designated military job doesn’t matter. You can either serve out all your time then U.S. GI Bill, or serve 2 yrs and apply for Green to Gold ROTC scholarship and can switch to a student status enroute to becoming an officer. If you don’t plan on going to college, then yes, try to get a guarantee to a job specialty that has a civilian equivalent.

All in all, the military can be an amazing experience with much to gain- so long as you are smart, disciplined, and don’t make dumb mistakes/choices while in. (Don’t get married, don’t make a baby, and don’t blow $$$$ on a car and bunches of alcohol and strippers)

Hum…no it’s not. For some single if they live in the dorms maybe but they earn so little families get food stamps and wic. The jobs suck, officers treat you badly, can be sent anywhere and may not be released as promised. Clearly you are not entitled or an entitled family. We are a retiree enlisted family. I would be fine with my v
Child going in as an officer only. We’ve saved since birth to avoid this.

For an unmarried 18-21 yr old with no kids that isn’t stupid with money- no they are not on food stamps. They live in military housing and have very few bills, it’s fine and you can actually save a lot. But yeah, if you enlist, get married at 19 and make some kids and wife doesn’t work and you have to move off base, yeah- you’ll be on food stamps.
So don’t do that

Anonymous wrote:I mean, you might DIE just for doing your job, so that's ... something.

Anonymous wrote:What are the main benefits of enlisting in the army/navy etc? Can one come out ahead with this trajectory?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahead of what?

Ahead in life (career, savings, happiness, opportunities for success, family etc.)

This is hard to answer. Many military enlistees fall prey to payday lenders and other abuses. There is a reason that every street leading up to a military base is littered with liquor stores, payday lenders, etc.

Now, if your kid is disciplined and saves their $$$s and uses the military to gain useful skills, takes advantage of the GI Bill for college, etc., it can work out.

Other approach is to have the military pay for your college and then serve as an officer.

This is blunt truth. It’s a fantastic way to gain skills (even if you don’t aim for NCO+) and change your life, but you have to handle it the right away.

This! Enlisting can be great. You have virtually no bills for several years and can save a lot of money. The military provides you with many, many useful skills beyond your designated job. If you plan to go to college, your designated military job doesn’t matter. You can either serve out all your time then U.S. GI Bill, or serve 2 yrs and apply for Green to Gold ROTC scholarship and can switch to a student status enroute to becoming an officer. If you don’t plan on going to college, then yes, try to get a guarantee to a job specialty that has a civilian equivalent.

All in all, the military can be an amazing experience with much to gain- so long as you are smart, disciplined, and don’t make dumb mistakes/choices while in. (Don’t get married, don’t make a baby, and don’t blow $$$$ on a car and bunches of alcohol and strippers)

+1 I know several people who took full advantage of everything the military has to offer. Do 3years, get GI Bill, don't have baby, get married, or get in debt and it is a great way for a young person to get some independence, leadership and responsibility. Navy and Air Force has the best quality of life

You don’t get leadership with three years. You get crappy hard jobs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahead of what?

Ahead in life (career, savings, happiness, opportunities for success, family etc.)

This is hard to answer. Many military enlistees fall prey to payday lenders and other abuses. There is a reason that every street leading up to a military base is littered with liquor stores, payday lenders, etc.

Now, if your kid is disciplined and saves their $$$s and uses the military to gain useful skills, takes advantage of the GI Bill for college, etc., it can work out.

Other approach is to have the military pay for your college and then serve as an officer.

This is blunt truth. It’s a fantastic way to gain skills (even if you don’t aim for NCO+) and change your life, but you have to handle it the right away.

This! Enlisting can be great. You have virtually no bills for several years and can save a lot of money. The military provides you with many, many useful skills beyond your designated job. If you plan to go to college, your designated military job doesn’t matter. You can either serve out all your time then U.S. GI Bill, or serve 2 yrs and apply for Green to Gold ROTC scholarship and can switch to a student status enroute to becoming an officer. If you don’t plan on going to college, then yes, try to get a guarantee to a job specialty that has a civilian equivalent.

All in all, the military can be an amazing experience with much to gain- so long as you are smart, disciplined, and don’t make dumb mistakes/choices while in. (Don’t get married, don’t make a baby, and don’t blow $$$$ on a car and bunches of alcohol and strippers)

Hum…no it’s not. For some single if they live in the dorms maybe but they earn so little families get food stamps and wic. The jobs suck, officers treat you badly, can be sent anywhere and may not be released as promised. Clearly you are not entitled or an entitled family. We are a retiree enlisted family. I would be fine with my v
Child going in as an officer only. We’ve saved since birth to avoid this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahead of what?

Ahead in life (career, savings, happiness, opportunities for success, family etc.)

This is hard to answer. Many military enlistees fall prey to payday lenders and other abuses. There is a reason that every street leading up to a military base is littered with liquor stores, payday lenders, etc.

Now, if your kid is disciplined and saves their $$$s and uses the military to gain useful skills, takes advantage of the GI Bill for college, etc., it can work out.

Other approach is to have the military pay for your college and then serve as an officer.

This is blunt truth. It’s a fantastic way to gain skills (even if you don’t aim for NCO+) and change your life, but you have to handle it the right away.

This! Enlisting can be great. You have virtually no bills for several years and can save a lot of money. The military provides you with many, many useful skills beyond your designated job. If you plan to go to college, your designated military job doesn’t matter. You can either serve out all your time then U.S. GI Bill, or serve 2 yrs and apply for Green to Gold ROTC scholarship and can switch to a student status enroute to becoming an officer. If you don’t plan on going to college, then yes, try to get a guarantee to a job specialty that has a civilian equivalent.

All in all, the military can be an amazing experience with much to gain- so long as you are smart, disciplined, and don’t make dumb mistakes/choices while in. (Don’t get married, don’t make a baby, and don’t blow $$$$ on a car and bunches of alcohol and strippers)

+1 I know several people who took full advantage of everything the military has to offer. Do 3years, get GI Bill, don't have baby, get married, or get in debt and it is a great way for a young person to get some independence, leadership and responsibility. Navy and Air Force has the best quality of life